EnterpriseNL Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) On topic though - my simple solution still works very well. Disable iCue on startup, save all lighting and fan settings to the hardware, and simply run the software if I want to make changes. Is there an easy way to copy the current lightning to the hardware lightning tab I have a profile (on the box static) and using a K70 RGB MK.2 EDIT: doing it manually now, and i'm one lighting effect short, I have 6, keyboards supports 5, not fun EDIT: solved, had to make some comprimise, ICUE is now closed and won't start anymore, until they fixed it, which I doubt will happen anytime soon Edited September 21, 2020 by EnterpriseNL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee Greybeard Posted September 23, 2020 Corsair Employee Share Posted September 23, 2020 So, that means that for Ryzen you will also fix the no sleep issues with Icue? Correct. In fact, the Ryzen idle/sleep issue and High CPU usage issue are on top of the list right now. And just for an update, we're currently testing different iCUE versions internally for the purpose of addressing those issues. I haven't seen the results yet, but I have a good feeling that we're on the right direction. Not my post you quoted, but the Corsair KB repeating keys has been an issue ever since you guys started making mechanical keyboards. I've had 5 or 6 different Corsair mechanicals, and iirc ALL of them have started repeating keys after a week or two of ownership (at least MX Brown & Red). Can't remember if my Corsair with MX Blue did it. So why do I keep buying them? Because they can take the most beating. I've tried so many brands, and Corsair builds the keyboards very tough. But the day I find an even tougher brand, I'm gone. That's because of the repeating keys issue. On topic though - my simple solution still works very well. Disable iCue on startup, save all lighting and fan settings to the hardware, and simply run the software if I want to make changes. My bad, didn't realize it wasn't your post. Thanks for sharing both good and bad experience with our KB. Tbh, I have seen those repeat keys reports a few years back, and I swear I thought we've got that all sorted by now. I don't think that it is wide spread as I haven't seen any feedback related to that lately, but I will check other chatters, including marketplace reviews and see if others are experiencing this. yeah I agree on how tough Corsair KBs are.. I know that myself because I am still using our first gen K70 for both work and gaming, just a workhorse and never skips a beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterpriseNL Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) Correct. In fact, the Ryzen idle/sleep issue and High CPU usage issue are on top of the list right now. And just for an update, we're currently testing different iCUE versions internally for the purpose of addressing those issues. I haven't seen the results yet, but I have a good feeling that we're on the right direction. Can't wait, will install Icue when it's fixed, can you update us when there is a new update out with the fix included? Edited September 23, 2020 by EnterpriseNL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mussels Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Correct. In fact, the Ryzen idle/sleep issue and High CPU usage issue are on top of the list right now. And just for an update, we're currently testing different iCUE versions internally for the purpose of addressing those issues. I haven't seen the results yet, but I have a good feeling that we're on the right direction. Fantastic news Greybeard! If you could poke them to give us simple tickboxes to turn off options we arent using to save resources, that'd be amazing and prevent this sort of thing in the future. (Those of us with just a headset, dont need temp monitoring loaded and running, etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeDoyen Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (Those of us with just a headset, dont need temp monitoring loaded and running, etc) And those of us with just a keyboard don't need the Corsair Gaming Audio Configuration Service running... and the Corsair LLA service running.. :D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVDM Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I'd like to share my partial solution to this problem:- The high CPU is even worse for me with the latest update to v3.20.80. I'm now getting 3.5 to 5% in the background and 7.5 to 10% when running the interface on a new i7-7700. This sort of thing has been going on for years and I'm sick of it and gotten to a point where I want to just uninstall and say goodbye to some of my mouse and keyboard functionality. Besides, I'm an old guy and I don't need half of that childish rainbow eye-candy. I don't need my system to look like something from Pink Fluffy Unicorns. What's held me back is I use functionality like sniper mode on my mouse and some of those extra keys and macros on the keyboard. Here is what I did: > Select the mouse > Click the hamburger menu to the right of Profiles > Click the memory card button which saves to device This will allow you to kill iCUE while retaining the mouse functionality. You can uncheck Start on system startup in the settings menu. The Corsair services stay running and still use a bit more CPU than you'd expect from a keyboard and mouse (I can't speak for other devices) but a lot less than iCUE. Unfortunately, the option to Save to Device is not available for the keyboard, or at least not my case (a K55). I'm just going to have to lose that functionality until Corsair sorts this out ... or until I need a new set and try some other brand. 😪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVDM Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Q: Why are Corsair services 32 bit on my 64 bit Win10 machine? (even that 1% seems a high CPU to me for such a thing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeDoyen Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) because iCUE is natively 32 bit. Saves on having two versions of the program i guess. If the dev resources are limited (and they clearly are) that avoids losing time on something that would make virtually no difference to us. Edit : i received my new work laptop. went from an old 2C4T i5 to a 6c12T i7, CPU usage mathematically dropped from 16% to 3%. Had to force iCue to not use the Quadro chip to save some battery but it still hogs the Intel iGPU at a constant 30% when opened on the main page. Up to 70% when showing rainbow wave on the keyboard page. Maybe a slower refresh rate for the display would make it less intensive. After all, we see the smooth lighting on the keyboard itself. If it runs at 10 fps on iCue instead of 30 or 60, i wouldn't mind. Having just Corsair service running still allows all cores to throttle down normally (i disabled LLA and headset), but launching iCue on top of it keeps at least 2 active. Edited September 24, 2020 by LeDoyen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imemyself Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 UN-usable. I have stop iCue to be able to run sensitive programs. Maybe they could make iCue Lite for one or two macros. Too processor heavy for what it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedi1025 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Why is the GUI using gpu acceleration? This just makes the software even more resource intensive. It doesn't need to over the top pretty to be functional and effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeDoyen Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 MS office uses GPU acceleration, web browsers do.. it's fine, but having iCUE use more GPU power than Fusion360 is ridiculous yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mussels Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 hardware acceleration is totally reasonable. How much it uses, is the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedi1025 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) HARDWARE acceleration IS reasonable....GPU acceleration is completely unnecessary for software designed to control lights and fans. office and web browsers are basically design/productivity and multipurpose/consumption softwares. add to that the fact that multipoint STILL doesn't exist in the mainstream versions and is only available in a beta version that is ALMOST impossible to find.....well, i think you see where this is going. they really need to address the issues that matter and stop worrying about it being "PRETTY." certainly not trying to start anything, just my $.02 on corsair's bumbling of what could be a really nice and useful piece of system control software. i could even point out that their osd implementation should include the ability to overlay selected temps in games, but i'm more upset about resource usage and lack of functional multipoint. don't get me wrong, i love my corsair devices. virtuoso, dark core rgb pro se, k65, commander pro, ml120s, vengeance rgb pro....etc. they work wonderfully...until i load up their control software. i just wish i could have multipoint and my custom eq without having the ridiculously extra system load. if all that worked, i wouldn't care if i had to use command line interface to do it...lol. Edited September 26, 2020 by jedi1025 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mussels Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 GPU acceleration *is* hardware acceleration... and that only seems to be active when you're viewing iCue itself, that goes away when its minimised or closed. Thats how browsers behave, so its fairly normal. The damn thing broke Gsync for people because it locked to 24Hz, so theres definitely some oddities and room for changing how its implemented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihlum Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 I'm having the same issue with my newly built Ryzen 5 3600 system. With iCUE open (even with Corsair Service disabled) my voltage hovers around 1.4v, it even slightly passed 1.45v for a moment. Doesn't seem to go below 1.38v. The MOMENT I close iCUE, however, it quickly drops to the 1.2's and keeps dropping, ending up in the 1.0's. Please let me know when this is fixed, because I'm going to have to uninstall iCUE until then and lose out on a lot of functionality for my K70 Lux keyboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leofred Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 What I did to decrease cpu usage of ICUE from 8-11% to 1-3% was to reinstall to the newest version of Asus Aura So my tip is, if you have any other rgb software make sure its up to date ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee Greybeard Posted September 29, 2020 Corsair Employee Share Posted September 29, 2020 UN-usable. I have stop iCue to be able to run sensitive programs. Maybe they could make iCue Lite for one or two macros. Too processor heavy for what it does. This "iCUE lite" version has been one of the most popular suggestions not only from you guys but also internally. I am sure our software team has been exploring this as a possible solution. But either way, if we go that direction or something else, I'm pretty confident that they will figure this one out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner1 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) Just wanted to put in a message, as someone who has been bothered by this CPU usage issue for a very long time. My iCUE process has previously been hovering around 5% usage at all times, with my CPU temperatures being raised by around 4°C by iCUE alone. As I updated to 3.34.161, I went back into testing mode, and it looks like iCUE CPU usage has dropped by somewhere between 1.5%-2.5%, and my temperatures are a bit lower as well. Looks like there has been some improvement, maybe the team has remedied part of the issues? Definitely appreciated! EDIT: Now I noticed after firing up one of my games that this update massacred one of my gaming profiles, hours of work put into many action assignments gone up in smoke. I am looking at the profile now and it somehow reverted the actions back to versions from many days ago, and created a number of weird duplicates of actions. Very annoying. Edited October 14, 2020 by Sojourner1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sineira Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 This "iCUE lite" version has been one of the most popular suggestions not only from you guys but also internally. I am sure our software team has been exploring this as a possible solution. But either way, if we go that direction or something else, I'm pretty confident that they will figure this one out. I like it! I mainly need it for cooling control of the AIO and Commander Pro controlling case fans. I run different cooling profiles depending on programs I run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandirectory Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 What I did to decrease cpu usage of ICUE from 8-11% to 1-3% was to reinstall to the newest version of Asus Aura So my tip is, if you have any other rgb software make sure its up to date ;) Which Version of Asus Aura? There is just the new Armory Crate, the "normal" Aura is not getting update since a while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delly Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 It has been bothering me for years. Its quite incredible really, for a company building cooling hardware to write such poorly optimised code that they end up doing the opposite of what we are paying all this money for and heating up CPUs. :mad: I have been a WPF and UX developer and I would also add that it has just become way too complex and heavy, also I have frequently lost profiles (now I export them) during updates. So yes I live with this software and I fully support of a Lite version, a fast loading, simple UI, clean functioning software that uses almost next to 0% CPU. How can it be possible to have Corsair.Service.CpuIdRemote and Corsair.Service using between 1% and 5% on a I9900K idling or even during gameplay! When I go in to look at the Dashboard, my CPU usage goes up to 7%! So the dashboard is useless because its putting so much extra load on the CPU that it is not providing a fair reflection of the system state. Do you know how many GFLOPS that is? Well I don't either but its a lot! All we want is one if statement running every 2 seconds if it temp = X fan = Y%. Please do try to fix this or give us a workaround to reduce what these apps/services are doing because I am about to build a new system and I am actively trying to avoid all Corsair products, it looks like it wont just be me. While I am on a rant, the taskbar iCue app also has a ridiculously basic bug, perhaps its my multi monitor setup or something but when I right click it, the menu pops up in the top left of the screen 🤦*♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandirectory Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 This "iCUE lite" version has been one of the most popular suggestions not only from you guys but also internally. I am sure our software team has been exploring this as a possible solution. But either way, if we go that direction or something else, I'm pretty confident that they will figure this one out. So what exactly does this mean? It is a suggestion that has been come to you guys from internal and external. Is there a lite version in development? If so, any dates on this? Are there already tests running? Can we have that tool? Basically, since I have all the Corsair stuff and using iCue, it is causing several issues, sometimes more, sometimes less. However, an issue that pops up regularly is the high CPU usage. In my case it is between 12% and 15% with a 3900X, which translates to almost 85%-90% usage when moving corsair.service to use just one core! This is insane and is an issue that is well known. I can just think of that this Software is so bloated, and if you guys fix something, it breaks something else! I don't want to be mean, but if these issues don't get fixed or any other tool comes that can be at least configured to install just the stuff I need, then each and every Corsair bit of Hardware and Software will be removed from all my builds. It can't be that such issues are reported on and on, but never being investigated and fixed completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee Corsair Nick Posted October 17, 2020 Corsair Employee Share Posted October 17, 2020 Quick update for you guys, we made some improvements in iCUE 3.34.161, which should help with CPU usage. We're still investigating ways to make further improvements, but this is a step in what I think most of you will agree is in the right direction. Let us know if you see some changes after updating, and we'll pass the feedback along to our development team. https://downloads.corsair.com/Files/CUE/iCUESetup_3.34.161_release.msi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mussels Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Quick update for you guys, we made some improvements in iCUE 3.34.161, which should help with CPU usage. We're still investigating ways to make further improvements, but this is a step in what I think most of you will agree is in the right direction. Let us know if you see some changes after updating, and we'll pass the feedback along to our development team. https://downloads.corsair.com/Files/CUE/iCUESetup_3.34.161_release.msi i'm still sitting at 3% CPU (icue open) usage on a 4.3GHz 3700x, with static lighting. Drops to 1-2% with icue closed, which is better but still damned high for static lighting and fan speeds. "corsair.service.CPUID.remote" seems to be high up there, polling the hardware too often? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin1706 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Thank you. Significant improvement. Down from ~8% to ~1% on a 5.1Ghz 9900k. Quick update for you guys, we made some improvements in iCUE 3.34.161, which should help with CPU usage. We're still investigating ways to make further improvements, but this is a step in what I think most of you will agree is in the right direction. Let us know if you see some changes after updating, and we'll pass the feedback along to our development team. https://downloads.corsair.com/Files/CUE/iCUESetup_3.34.161_release.msi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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