Micha2k Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Hi there, SandForce has released a new mass production firmware, version 3.2.0. As the Force drives are being shipped with 3.1.0, I would like to ask if you plan to offer an update and if yes, when. Other vendors already started to roll out the updates (I'm most certainly not allowed to post their names here). Thank you in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Good question. Based upon the other firmware releases Corsair's done for some of the other series, I'd theorize that the new firmware (and the firmware updater tool if provided by SandForce) would have to pass their own internal testing first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenn0X Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 may hope that it fixes the whole force series bsod trim issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micha2k Posted August 12, 2010 Author Share Posted August 12, 2010 The only thing I know about the new firmware is that it introduced problems with Gigabyte Motherboards (SMART incompatibility). Maybe Corsair is skipping version 3.2.0 and waiting until all bugs are fixed (yeah, you can never fix all bugs...). But I would like to hear a definitive answer from Corsair about this (and I think other would also like to) ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heintz.G Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 I checked that artical as well, apparently Gigabyte is already working on a new Bios update to rectify that problem. Hopefuly it will get put across their entire range of boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenn0X Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 ok worthless upgrade for the most of us with bigger issue then gigabyte smart failure.. funny how things work, still cannot trim my drive without getting a bsod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heintz.G Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 It's a start, you might only get BSOD with trim on, i still get Bsod with trim on or off go figuer. Not using ssd anymore and guess what no Bsod's at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mummy Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 It's a start, you might only get BSOD with trim on, i still get Bsod with trim on or off go figuer. Not using ssd anymore and guess what no Bsod's at all. Yeah component's are individual's. In ~5 component prduct + software's, oh boy. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjames Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Corsair seems like always release their firmware late. When other companys have released their firmware from controller manufacture, Corsair is still not giving out their latest firmware~ What's the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micha2k Posted August 15, 2010 Author Share Posted August 15, 2010 What's the problem? So you know for sure Corsair will release 3.2.0? I don't, and that is why I'm asking. Corsair does not provide an update for every new firmware version, see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjames Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 So you know for sure Corsair will release 3.2.0? I don't, and that is why I'm asking. Corsair does not provide an update for every new firmware version, see here. Actually, I am with you. wakaka~ Normally, other manufacturers receive that latest firmware from the SSD controller. They do something on the firmware and then release for the end user. But, Corsair doesn't do that after their release the 1819 which is firmware 2.0 for extreme Series SSD. I wonder if they are going to release for all the sandforce ssd~ For the owener of corsair SSD, if you are waiting the latest firmware, good luck then~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc_rider Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 i've just review SSD F60 with firmware 1.0 so it has speed read/write 285MB/s vs 272MB/s via ATTO disk benchmark, i tried to get tool update firmware for it but i couldn't get tool. I searched and i read a document about firmware of Sandforce for Corsair Force series firmware 1.0 is newest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted August 17, 2010 Corsair Employee Share Posted August 17, 2010 We are working on this and at this time I am sorry I have no further information that has already been stated.. When we do have an update it will be posted in the Firmware section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaddix Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 The sandforce firmware cripples the corsair drives I thought? Or is that mess over and done with now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Please read the following update from RAM GUY. The portion regarding firmwares relates to this thread. We will update the forum as we make progress. We understand that people are getting impatient on this issue, and I’m sorry we have not been able to provide a solution yet. Let me give you a summary of what we currently know. First of all, we have received enough drives back to perform some meaningful analysis, and we have, in fact, been able to re-create this failure mode. However, drives that fail on a problem system work fine on other systems. It appears to be some sort of compatibility issue that only appears on a very rare combination of hardware and software. We have been spending lots of time in the lab trying to find out what causes the failure mode – I/O driver, motherboard manufacturer, CPU, PSU, OS version and settings, SSD firmware, etc. There are lots of variables, and we have not been able to determine yet what causes (or, what fixes) this issue. We have been in close contact with Sandforce, and they are working on this issue as well. We have sent entire platforms to motherboard vendors to get their assistance on the problem. This is a compatibility problem and appears to affect a very small percentage of systems; the scarcity of the problem makes it very elusive and time consuming to resolve. If we had a firmware version that appeared to solve the problem, we would certainly offer it here. But we do not want to do so until we can confirm that it improves things (and, in fact, does not make them worse). We understand that it is extremely frustrating to experience problems like this on performance hardware. And, we understand that lack of information is equally frustrating. So, we will start posting a regular status update here on what progress we are making. We certainly appreciate your patience, and are working hard to resolve this issue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tovalb Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Hey, just some info, just recieved my new Corsai F80. With firmware 1.1 (guess thats sanforce 3.2.0). Atto shows normal speed (270/285 on os), while crystal, hdtune etc looks horrible. smart dont seem to work normal. No BSOD, and the drive seems to work perfectly... so far. ACHI + Gigabyte DS4 MB, Hoping for a firmware so we can use smart + other benchmark than ATTO. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Hey, just some info, just recieved my new Corsai F80. With firmware 1.1 (guess thats sanforce 3.2.0). Atto shows normal speed (270/285 on os), while crystal, hdtune etc looks horrible. smart dont seem to work normal. No BSOD, and the drive seems to work perfectly... so far. ACHI + Gigabyte DS4 MB, Hoping for a firmware so we can use smart + other benchmark than ATTO. Tom The firmware won't change the benchmark. The people that develop the benchmarks will need to update them for SSDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tovalb Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 waht about S.M.A.R.T? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 waht about S.M.A.R.T? We are working on this and at this time I am sorry I have no further information that what has already been stated.. When we do have an update it will be posted in the Firmware section. Please read the following update from RAM GUY. The portion regarding firmwares relates to this thread. We will update the forum as we make progress. We understand that people are getting impatient on this issue, and I’m sorry we have not been able to provide a solution yet. Let me give you a summary of what we currently know. First of all, we have received enough drives back to perform some meaningful analysis, and we have, in fact, been able to re-create this failure mode. However, drives that fail on a problem system work fine on other systems. It appears to be some sort of compatibility issue that only appears on a very rare combination of hardware and software. We have been spending lots of time in the lab trying to find out what causes the failure mode – I/O driver, motherboard manufacturer, CPU, PSU, OS version and settings, SSD firmware, etc. There are lots of variables, and we have not been able to determine yet what causes (or, what fixes) this issue. We have been in close contact with Sandforce, and they are working on this issue as well. We have sent entire platforms to motherboard vendors to get their assistance on the problem. This is a compatibility problem and appears to affect a very small percentage of systems; the scarcity of the problem makes it very elusive and time consuming to resolve. If we had a firmware version that appeared to solve the problem, we would certainly offer it here. But we do not want to do so until we can confirm that it improves things (and, in fact, does not make them worse). We understand that it is extremely frustrating to experience problems like this on performance hardware. And, we understand that lack of information is equally frustrating. So, we will start posting a regular status update here on what progress we are making. We certainly appreciate your patience, and are working hard to resolve this issue! Please read page 1 of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samax901 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 The last update of this thread was a month ago, any updates in the matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synbios Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 The last update of this thread was a month ago, any updates in the matter? Yes, well this thread was initially referring to Sandforce version 3.2.0. Corsair has been using Sandforce version 3.2.0 in the Force series for a while (firmware 1.1). It's the next release that everyone is waiting for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 1.1's not publicly available, so it's still referring to that release. It is already available on new drives from the factory, and there is/was a limited beta test of the firmware update tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oray Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 1.1's not publicly available, so it's still referring to that release. It is already available on new drives from the factory, and there is/was a limited beta test of the firmware update tool. This is wrong information, After the end of August or the beginning of September, all F-series have version of 1.1. I am sorry but you are mistaken, please read through the forum you will see I have posted several times Force Series Drives manufactured since last month will have Firmware Version 1.1. The utility to update the Firmware has not been released at this time but we given it out on request as BETA. Please I am not getting on you just making sure the proper information is posted. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synbios Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 This is wrong information, After the end of August or the beginning of September, all F-series have version of 1.1. Why is it wrong information? 1.1 is not publicly available, ie. somebody cannot download it and install it themselves without first requesting a beta trial of the update tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted October 4, 2010 Corsair Employee Share Posted October 4, 2010 Well sorry but yes it is, just posted this morning. Force Series Update to Version 1.1a! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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