penguin76 Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I really hate to ask this question, but I'm have a hard time getting my memory to run at 1600MHz and stable. I've tried manually setting everything, and I've tried using the XMP Profile. As the Title states, I have the EVGA X58 board and the Dominator TR3X6G1600C8D memory. I've run through several guides talking about how to set the timings and all on other boards and have tried to emulate those, but I'm not having much luck. My system tends to freeze/lockup no matter what I do...unless I leave it all default and Auto. I'm not entirely sure what's needed to help answer my question, so I'm including some information from EVGA E-LEET. EVGA E-LEET NB Frequency bounces around 2122.6 and 2122.7 DRAM Frequency 530.7MHz FSB:DRAM 2:8 CL 8 tRCD 8 tRP 8 tRAS 19 tRFC 59 CR 1T If I read that correctly, my ram's running at around 1060 Right now there's no over clocking or anything going on, I want to get a stable 1600 and more familiar with overclocking before I even attempt that. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Have you set the memory voltage manually? BTW, why XP (32 bit)? I'm guessing you're waiting for Windows 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin76 Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 I have tried setting the mem voltage manually. But no luck. I'm not entirely certain what it needs to be. 64bit XP kept giving a BSOD on install. Even with the drivers for the intel "raid" controller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin76 Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 Also, what are some good programs to test my stability with out actually booting into windows. I'm afraid I'm going to corrupt files when it tanks on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamcsay Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I'm having the exact same problem with the same motherboard/memory combo. Tried everything, cannot get this memory to run at the specified speeds. At first the voltage was set at 1.70 so I lowered it manually to default. Figured this may have solved it but my computer froze in minutes after boot. Really frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted October 2, 2009 Corsair Employee Share Posted October 2, 2009 Just make sure that you have the latest BIOS then load setup defaults and enable XMP Profile one then set the memory Voltage to 1.65 Volts and set the CPU VTT Voltage to 1.35 Volts and then run http://www.memtest.org on the system for 2-3 passes. If you get errors try the CPU VTT at 1.4 Volts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin76 Posted October 3, 2009 Author Share Posted October 3, 2009 Ok, I have the latest BIOS. XMP Profile 1 DIMM Voltage set to 1.575. (If I set it to 1.65V then after rebooting, it runs at 1.72V) DIMM Voltage runs at 1.63-1.64 I can't get 1.65 exactly. I can't set CPU VTT at a particular Voltage. I can only do +XmV. First time I had it set to +125mV Cleared 2 passes with memtest86. As soon as I booted into windows, my machine locked up. Right when it was playing the login music...got stuck on the music. I'm now setting it to +175mV which gets my running CPU VTT voltage to 1.36-1.37. This seems to be more stable so far (Up 10 minutes instead of instant lock up.) E-LEET shows me DRAM is at 1.63V and CPU VTT is at 1.37. If it locks up again, I'll try to get those to bump up a bit and see what happens. I'll report back when I discover something new. Thanks for the help!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamcsay Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 did the same. froze at 150mV, trying 175 now. computer keeps hanging with looping sound. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamcsay Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 well at 175mV i don't get any lock ups. now it just straight up restarts itself. at least i don't have to move my hand towards the reset button. ;X edit: still unstable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin76 Posted October 3, 2009 Author Share Posted October 3, 2009 Mine ran for an hour or so but eventually locked up. Not sure when as I left it running and went to bed. When I got back up...which is now...the machine is locked up. No rebooting, just locked. I've bumped my CPU VTT to +200mV DIMM Voltage set to 1.600V BIOS now shows DIMM at 1.65V and CPU VTT at 1.40V I would run memtest86 again, but it seems to be useless in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin76 Posted October 3, 2009 Author Share Posted October 3, 2009 I hope I'm not talking too soon, but the latest adjustments seem to make a huge difference. Computer's been stable for over 6 hours now. My only concern is that that DRAM Voltage is now bouncing around 1.66V - 1.67V is this a problem? Board says 1.65V is the max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin76 Posted October 4, 2009 Author Share Posted October 4, 2009 Turns out I WAS talking too soon. After almost exactly 12 hours of operation, it rebooted itself. I'm really getting annoyed that this RAM isn't running at specified speeds. It's also dis-heartening that I've seen other people with this exact issue. Including adamcsay that's responded in this very thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizzie Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 I've been following along with the post and figured I would jump in now. I'm running Windows 7 64bit almost completely stable. The only time I get a freeze is when I run Orthos, SuperPi, HyperPi, and Prime95. Everything but Prime95 will instantly freeze or automatically restart my machine. Prime95 ran for 7hrs last night before freezing and today ran for about 5hrs. I can pull a 20 pass in LinX and have yet to see any problems with games. Settings: XMP Profile 1 (8-8-8-24-88 1T) DIMM 1.60v - Been set on 1.65v but as you pointed out it shows 1.71v. QPI PLL VCore 1.375v CPU VTT +200mV - Just set this. Testing in Prime95 as I type this. Hopefully I get better results from this CPU VTT bump. And man if you think this is bad you should have seen what I went through with my RAM (cant type the brand name apparently, its in the rules) I just returned to NewEgg. BSOD, freezes, game crashes, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin76 Posted October 4, 2009 Author Share Posted October 4, 2009 Are you doing the prime95 torture test, or just calculating? On second thought, it almost sounds like Prime95 has nothing to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizzie Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 I'm running the Torture test in Blend mode. Computer made it 9hrs in Prime95 before a restart yesterday. I ran Memtest86+ overnight for 10hrs and 15 passes without any errors. I am still getting this random restart though (only when I run the calculation software, I have not seen any restart in my normal use or gaming). I would say it was temp related but in Orthos, HyperPi, and SuperPi it is an instant restart as soon as I run the calculations. I need to adjust something, I just dont know what it is yet, suggestions? Previous RAM was able to calculate Pi to 32M and nothing has changed in my configuration but the RAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin76 Posted October 5, 2009 Author Share Posted October 5, 2009 I had another lockup. I'm setting everything back to defaults and starting over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizzie Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Still having the same problems here. I did find that the RAM seems to be perfectly stable at 1333Mhz. I am running Super PI to 32M Calculations perfectly fine which was impossible at 1600Mhz (instant lockups and freezes depending on my voltage settings). Memtest ran for 10hrs and 15 passes with no errors, Linx finished a full 20 passes, its like this RAM either will not run at 1600Mhz or I am clearly missing something. Stable (so far) Manual settings: 1333Mhz 8-8-8-24, tRFC 88, CR 1T CPU VTT +200mV DIMM 1.65v QPI PLL VCore 1.35v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin76 Posted October 5, 2009 Author Share Posted October 5, 2009 I've seen where people have had it running at 1600Mhz. And it's tested/certified by Corsair at those speeds. I'm staring to wonder if it has to do with the CPU not being clocked higher. I'm grasping at straws here really. I had also wondered about running at 1333Mhz, but hadn't gotten around to trying it out. I've post a similar thread on the MoBo manufacturer's forum...I'll PM the link to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin76 Posted October 5, 2009 Author Share Posted October 5, 2009 do you have your DIMM voltage set to exactly 1.65V or do you have it set at 1.600V so it actually runs at 1.65v? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamcsay Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 yep, after many frustrating hours and reboots i decided to try slow and move my way up. i'm now currently sitting stable at 8-8-8-24 @ 1333mhz for 24 hrs. the moment i bump it up to 1600 no matter the timings, lockup. i've heard 100s of stories of people being able to run these at spec with no fuss at all right out of the box and i scratch my head. heavily thinking about rmaing these damn things because i've all but given up on trying to run them at 1600. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin76 Posted October 5, 2009 Author Share Posted October 5, 2009 I'd be interested to hear if a new set, after RMA worked to SPEC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizzie Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Yeah, those settings are exactly how I have it set in BIOS and not actual voltages. I'm still curious to see what other suggestions RAM GUY has for us here. *UPDATE* How has the setup linuxrouter suggested worked out so far? Frequency Control CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ( 133 ) CPU Uncore Frequency (Mhz) ( 24x ) Memory Feature Memory Speed ( Standard ) <-- Standard disables XMP Memory Control Setting ( Enabled ) Memory Frequency ( 2:12 ) Channel Interleave Setting ( 6 Way ) Rank Interleave Setting ( 4 Way ) Memory Low Gap ( Auto ) tCL Setting ( 8 ) tRCD Setting ( 8 ) tRP Setting ( 8 ) tRAS Setting ( 24 ) tRFC Setting ( 74 ) Command Rate ( 1T ) Voltage Control CPU VTT Voltage ( +200 ) DIMM Voltage ( 1.65 ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamcsay Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 hmmm. i'm actually able to boot into windows with those settings at least. we'll see how long this lasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin76 Posted October 5, 2009 Author Share Posted October 5, 2009 Sorry, missed that you'd posted those below. I cannot boot into windows with those settings. PC just froze ---------------------------------- got some settings in an older thread. Going to try these: Frequency Control CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ( 133 ) CPU Uncore Frequency (Mhz) ( 24x ) Memory Feature Memory Speed ( Standard ) <-- Standard disables XMP Memory Control Setting ( Enabled ) Memory Frequency ( 2:12 ) Channel Interleave Setting ( 6 Way ) Rank Interleave Setting ( 4 Way ) Memory Low Gap ( Auto ) tCL Setting ( 8 ) tRCD Setting ( 8 ) tRP Setting ( 8 ) tRAS Setting ( 24 ) tRFC Setting ( 74 ) Command Rate ( 1T ) Voltage Control CPU VTT Voltage ( +200 ) DIMM Voltage ( 1.65 ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamcsay Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 tried them, no luck. rmaing tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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