mjs1231 Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 I recently purchased corsair xms pc3200 XL 1 gig dual kit, The memory was unstable at default settings, bsod's, games hard locked or rebooted pc. I ram memtest86 v 3.2 and was greeted with red screen with the word failure all over. I rma'ed the ram back to newegg and reveived the new ram back. I imediatly installed and ram memtest again and it ran for a few minutes and again greeted with failures system specs antec sl350 smartpower abit nf7-s rev 2.0 amd 2500 + @ 1.7 v ddr @ 2.8 v @ 400 fsb @ 5 2 2 2.0 optimal fx 5900 xt @ 1.7 v wd raptor sata drive Am I missing some thing thank you consumer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjs1231 Posted November 28, 2004 Author Share Posted November 28, 2004 Ya I baught a gig of corsair memory over a month ago and sent it back twice and and now the ram still fails memtest on multiple motherboards. even after 1 month and over 450 dollars because of shipping and loss from taking time off work and I still do not have a working set of ddr, this is VERY DISAPOINTING I can not recomend using newegg ever again, I ordered 1 gig 2x512 of corsair xms pc3200 XL and two fx 5900 xt video cards and every part was blown/ bad/fried/failed Then they give me the run around and treat me like I did something wrong, very disapointed. I have left multiple messages with corsair and left emails and no one has called me or replied to my emails, I have to say this is the worst service I have ever delt with in my life, I spent over 800 dollars and I feel totaly ripped off, but maybe i am imagining the whole thing, ya right online nightmare ...................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjs1231 Posted November 28, 2004 Author Share Posted November 28, 2004 abit nf7-s rev 2.0 bios 2.6 newest antec sl350 smartpower psu corsair XMS pc 3200 XL 2x512 but unusable @ 2.8 v @ 400 fsb @ 5 2 2 2.0 2500 + cpu @ 1.7 v fx 5900 xt finnaly got a working one from newegg now using 3 2x256 1x512 512 in slot 3 lol mixed chips @ 333 @ 11 2 2 2.5 @ 2.8 v memtest passed on them no errors raptor hard disk no other devices in pc no pata disks no cd drives no flopies xp pro sp2 all usb disabled bios and video caching disabled trust me I build water cooled Enthusiast pc's for $$$ since i have been laid off ( outsourced ) from my feild in Information technology 3 times is last 3 years. yes I am a bush hater but what can you do except vote against someone that gives tax breaks to the wealthy and ganks the middle class. 20 % 12% If you think I have missed something please let me know. thanks consumer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 The 2500+ only has a FSB of 333 Mhz. XP CPU Specs Running that CPU with that mem would either require you to OC the CPU to have a FSB of 400 Mhz, or to underclock the memory to 333 Mhz. If you run the FSB and memory asynchronously, then it can and will cause problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjs1231 Posted November 28, 2004 Author Share Posted November 28, 2004 I know the difference between fsb 333 and 400 and yes the 2500 + is a pre week 34 and is fully unocked and runs on air stable @ 2.5 ghz @ 1.875 v I will also asume you read my statement, tested on multiple motherboards. I also ran memtest86 3.2 on that cpu @ 2.5 ghz while i had ocz 2x256 pc 3500 overnight and zero issues. I can accept that the cpu is is fine at any speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjs1231 Posted November 28, 2004 Author Share Posted November 28, 2004 Can u assist me in getting a rma from corsair ? I know enough not to run AMD systems async and yes the cpu is over clocked but @ 3200 + or 2200 mhz just by changing the multiplier to 11 which is not realy a overclock at all, these chips run perfect @ 400 and everyone knows it. plus my brothers cpu is a true 3200 + and the ram failed on it with in 2-3 minutes so I know for a fact the ram is failing because he has 2x512 kingston pc3500 with ramsinks and runs 440 fsb and ran memtest86 3.2 over a entire weekend zero failures, I do have a question. If I get the next pair directly from corsair will they test them before shipping to me ? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 They always test them before going out, and always send new ones. To answer that next upcoming question, nothing's 100 % in life no matter how hard we try :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xpman Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Mjs can I offer some advice? Get rid of that pathetic PSU. I'm tired of having to bring this up in all the forums but please don't argue with me. That's a garbage PSU regardless what anyone tells you. Do you have any idea what that combination of NF7 and XP does to the 12v? I don't think you do or you'd have a different PSU. Please take my advice..it amazes me. Top notch mobo, great cpu for overclocking, great ram..and a cheap, lousy PSU. What's up with that? Look, no one wants to go out and spend $200 on a PC P&C PSU except some of us that know better. The PSU is the number 1 rule for good overclocks yet no one follows that. People need to do more research and studying if they're going to OC. #1 PSU #2 Ram Why do I see so much garbage for PSUs? Don't look anywhere else my man it's as plain as daylight. You already RMA'd to NewEgg (which are top notch for CS after OCZ) ram and Video Card..CLUE: VIDEO CARD..OC, NF7 and Video Card and there's no doubt that your garbage PSU can't supply enough 12v for all that..no way. Do you honestly think all the products are bad and your other components are perfect? Trust me this one time. Take the pearls of wisdom and go spend in a REAL psu. I'm willing to bet you'll see a BIG difference. Just trust me, you have nothing to lose. It'll cost you but come on man that's what it takes if you want to oc and going 200fsb on an NForce2 is overclocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xpman Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 MJS..I forgot to add that I used to have the biggest problems with everything when I first started with overclocking. My Corsair PC3200Cas2 wouldn't go past 190 fsb etc. I did a ton of reading and one day I was thinking wait a minute, what's the heart of a PC specially when overclocking..the PSU. What happens when you oc? The power requirements go thru the roof and Bartons and NForce2s are 12v hogs. I got a $200 Turbo Cool 510 Deluxe and my Corsair 3200Cas2 magically went to 215 fsb with only 2.8v with the same setups. I have that board now on my gfs pc with the same ram with a garbage PSU like yours and sure enough it won't go past 200 fsb. Since then the only thing that holds me back are the motherboards not the ram, not the cpu, not the PSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjs1231 Posted November 29, 2004 Author Share Posted November 29, 2004 just slapped in ocz powerstream from my biddies pc, anyway all lights on the back are green. its the 520 watt version this is the link http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/power_management/ocz_powerstream_power_supply booted to memtest86 3.2 and got red screen with failures lol next lol the ram is still bad bro what next ? throw kitchen sink at it lol next lololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjs1231 Posted November 29, 2004 Author Share Posted November 29, 2004 XP MAN you just lost that bet lol got any more bright ideas ? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted November 29, 2004 Corsair Employee Share Posted November 29, 2004 Please follow the link in my signature “I think I have a bad part!” and we will be happy to replace them or it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xpman Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 XP MAN you just lost that bet lol got any more bright ideas ? lol Nice try but not even close. How is OCZ GimmickStream a PC P&C??? Please explain! This should be REAL good let me go get some popcorn and a nice pint of Ale. Wait...my turn to "lol". :D: :D: :D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjs1231 Posted December 2, 2004 Author Share Posted December 2, 2004 Just got rma and shipped the twinx back thanks for all the help RG and xp man, this is not a personal attack just a forum, lol curently running 2x256 ocz platnium pc 3500 @ 2.88 v @ 440 fsb with same board, cpu and psu ( sl350 antec ) nf7-s rev 2.0 bios 2.6 and yes it is 1-1 sync on air @ 102 F. idle lol memtest86 3.2 for 4 hours no failures cs ram failed within 3 minutes every time lol on both motherboards and both psu's lol do the math lol ps also ordered brand new ( just came out )pc-power and cooling 550 deluxe with adjustable rails and new modular wire design 290.00 big ones I think ! there for I must be. muahahahaha lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted December 2, 2004 Corsair Employee Share Posted December 2, 2004 Did you try and reset or load setup defaults and set the timings and such accordingly. In addition, XMS3200C2 with this platform would be rated at 200 MHz at Cass 2.5-3-3-6. So what are the settings you have set for the both CPU and memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjs1231 Posted December 2, 2004 Author Share Posted December 2, 2004 ok with system running 1-1 @ 400 fsb i have tried the following combinations ddr @ 400 @ 5 2 2 2.0 optimal and spd and expert system default voltage across the board cpu ddr chipset vga and got failures in just a few minutes sometimes instantly second cross referenced bios voltage menu and check all voltages adjusted each device so it match specs or exceeded slightly retest @ 400 @ 5 2 2 2.0 ddr voltage lists as 2.77 cpu 1.675 chipset 1.7 agp 1.5 1.6 same failures with in few minutes third raised voltage per device across the board cpu 1.875 ddr 2.88 @ 5 2 2 2.0 @ 400 fsb chipset 1.7 agp 1.7 same test same failures with in few minutes ok reduced ddr latency timmings to 8 3 3 3.0 ended up trying all sorts of combinantions but the ends were all the same. failures within a few minutes ddr voltage still 2.88 chipset 1.7 agp 1.7 cpu as 3200 + @ 400 1.875 still ran test , same failures with in 2-3 mins ran ms memory diag disk 3rd test failed stride6 failure so on and so on I have tried every combination possable on this board with out psu testing equipment I can only speculate on psu output +3.3v is 3.23 +12 is 11.86 -12 is 13.19 +5 is 5.00 -5 is 5.43 +5vsb is 5.43 vbat is 3.52 what is wrong with this picture ? can you explain these settings to me or link me or at least tell me if you see a weak point ? I'm not exactly sure what to look for. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjs1231 Posted December 2, 2004 Author Share Posted December 2, 2004 I do not have XMS3200C2 do I I mean is the 3200 XL the same ? and the only reason i even purchased it was to do 5 2 2 2.0 @ 400 stable if that memory is not capable of those timmings with that fsb let me know and I will get my money back and find some other kind. I mean I can get value ram to do 11 2 2 2.5 and save a hundred bucks lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 Chill, it was probably just a snafu, he does read a ton of posts each day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjs1231 Posted December 2, 2004 Author Share Posted December 2, 2004 lol right on I noticed alot of people with nf7-s v 2 having issues with fast ddr. like a severe amount of people asking the same questions. have you formulated any ideas ? is it the motherboards / chipset ? psu 's ? or memory ? or is every one different ? just wondered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjs1231 Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 ok I have the xms pc3200 xl 2x512 is that ddr set to 1t or 2t @ 5222 ? i have both bios for my motherboard 1t and 2t Command Per Clock here is the article http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:VEAeIlTsA8AJ:www.insanetek.com/index.php%3Fpage%3Dcpcnf2+nf7+Command+Per+Clock&hl=en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 I think it's 1T, not 100% sure though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjs1231 Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 Ok check it out i got mixed ddr ok, both 256 2x256 one is ocz 3500 and other is elixer 3200 ok. flashed mb bios to manta ray xy cpc off D26 bios ok that bios sets cpc to 2T which is off flashed set defaults reboot power off clear cmos re configure bios booted up to xp @ 400 to set date time reboot I booted up @ 9 4 4 3.0 205 fsb stable ddr 2.9 ok wow , never worked before over 333 stable 210 fsb stable wow increadable 215 same thing 220 same thing 230 dead 225 boots but not stable in xp pro sp2+ 222 but still bsod's 220 sweet spot maybe , crashed 1 time in a hour of multiplayer lets say 215 but i keep at 220 major difference everst score higher than amd64 3000+ mem write bandwidth and thats on sl350 lol but man its being abused, pumping out big heat, took it out of my case, runs cooler. the negative 12 is like -14 what is this from ? to weak ? damaged ? over stressed ? or my system draws to much for it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Can't answer non-Corsair memory questions in the Corsair section, best to ask in the main section of the HoH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjs1231 Posted December 8, 2004 Author Share Posted December 8, 2004 I was wondering if you have received the memory i returned ? RMA Number: R65295 Part Number: TWINX1024-3200XL Number of modules: 2 thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted December 8, 2004 Corsair Employee Share Posted December 8, 2004 Yes they should ship new modules today. I would email rma@corsairmemory.com after tomorrow and you can get the tracking info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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