Nevoh Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Hi everyone, I post here since my problem is related. I have the same motherboard with 2GB (CORSAIR TW3X2G1600C9DHX) and an INTEL Core 2 Duo E8400. Until today everything went well using the following settings : AI Overclock Tweaker Configure Advanced CPU Settings CPU Ratio Setting = Auto C1E Support = Enabled Configure System Performance Settings Ai OVerclocking Tuner = Manual CPU Ratio Setting = Auto FSB Frequency = 400 PCIE Frequency = 100 FSB Strap to North Bridge = Auto DRAM Frequency = DDR3-1601MHz Dram CLK Skew on Channel A1 = Auto Dram CLK Skew on Channel A2 = Auto Dram CLK Skew on Channel B1 = Auto Dram CLK Skew on Channel B2 = Auto Dram TIming COntrol = Manual Primary Information CAS# Latency = 9 DRAM Clocks DRAM RAS# to CAS #Delay = 9 DRAM Clocks DRAM RAS# Precharge = 9 DRAM Clocks DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge = 24 DRAM Clocks RAS# to RAS# Delay = Auto Row Refresh Cycle Time = 60 DRAM Clocks Write Recovery Time = Auto Read to Precharge Time = Auto Secondary Information Read to Write Delay (S/D) = Auto Write to Read Delay (S) = Auto Write to Read Delay (D) = Auto Read to Read Delay (S) = Auto Read to Read Delay (D) = Auto Write to Write Delay (S) = Auto Write to Write Delay (D) = Auto Third Information WRITE to PRE delay = Auto READ to PRE delay = Auto PRE to PRE delay = Auto ALL PRE to ACT delay = Auto ALL PRE to RED Delay = Auto DRAM Static Read Control = Disabled DRAM Dynamic Write Control = Disabled DRAM Read Training = Disabled DRAM Write Training = Disabled MEM. OC Charger = Enabled Ai Clock Twister= Auto Ai Transaction Booster= Auto Voltages CPU Voltage = Auto CPU GTL Voltage Reference(0/2) = Auto CPU GTL Voltage Reference(1/3) = Auto CPU PLL Voltage = Auto FSB Termination Voltage = Auto DRAM Voltage = 1.8v NB Voltage = Auto NB GTL Reference = Auto SB Voltage = Auto PCIE SATA Voltage = Auto ************************************************** Load-Line Calibration = Auto CPU Clock Skew = Auto NB Clock Skew = Auto CPU Margin Enhancement = Optimized But I wanted to increase my RAM from 2GB to 4GB and I bought the exact same kit (CORSAIR TW3X2G1600C9DHX). Unfortunaly, it's impossible to boot with all the four modules installed on the motherboard. Hence, I tried to reboot with only 2GB by using the NEW kit, and surprise! It doesn't boot at all. I can't even reach my BIOS... So I reinstalled the OLD kit, and everything is back to normal, but I still only have 2GB :) What should I try? Thx in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Do both modules of the new kit not give you boot when tested singly and in different slots? Unfortunaly, it's impossible to boot with all the four modules installed on the motherboard. Hence, I tried to reboot with only 2GB by using the NEW kit, and surprise! It doesn't boot at all. I can't even reach my BIOS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevoh Posted May 5, 2009 Author Share Posted May 5, 2009 Do both modules of the new kit not give you boot when tested singly and in different slots? Exactly. Here's a picture of the system memory overview (from the official manual) http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5410/mbdimm2.th.jpg Here are the different configurations I tried Both modules in black slots (1 in DIMM_A1 and 1 in DIMM_B1)Both modules in orange slots (1 in DIMM_A2 and 1 in DIMM_B2)1 module in DIMM_A11 module in DIMM_B11 module in DIMM_A21 module in DIMM_B2 As you can see, I tried almost every configuration... The working configuration is both modules from the old kit in orange slots. Thank you for your answer, what should I try now please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted May 6, 2009 Corsair Employee Share Posted May 6, 2009 With 4 modules I would suggest setting the memory frequency at DDR1066 or DDR1333 and set the memory Voltage to 1.7-1.90 Volts and set the NB/MCH/SPP Voltage to +.05 Volts as well and test the system with http://www.memtest.org. In addition, with some MB's (Mostly ASUS) you have to disable legacy USB in the bios when running any memory test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevoh Posted May 6, 2009 Author Share Posted May 6, 2009 With 4 modules I would suggest setting the memory frequency at DDR1066 or DDR1333 and set the memory Voltage to 1.7-1.90 Volts and set the NB/MCH/SPP Voltage to +.05 Volts as well and test the system with http://www.memtest.org. In addition, with some MB's (Mostly ASUS) you have to disable legacy USB in the bios when running any memory test. Ok, thx for that answer. (I pretty sure I already read it somewhere in this forum :biggrin:) I'll try it tonight. But that doesn't explain why I can't boot with the 2 modules from the new kit... Moreover, what do you think of this BIOS specs? Ai Overclocker Tuner: Manual CPU Ratio Setting: 9 FSB Frequency: 400 PCIE Frequency: 100 FSB Strap To North Bridge:auto DRAM Frequency: DDR3_1600 DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto DRAM Timing Control: Manual CAS Latency: 9 DRAM RAS to CAS Delay: 9 DRAM RAS Precharge: 9 DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge: 24 RAS TO RAS Delay: Auto Row Refresh Cycle Time: Auto Write Recovery Time: Auto Read To Precharge Time: Auto Read to Write Delay(S/D): Auto Write to Read Delay(S): Auto Write to Read Delay(D): Auto Read to Read Delay(S): Auto Read to Read Delay(D): Auto Write to Write Delay(S): Auto Write to Write Delay(D): Auto Write to Pre Delay: Auto Read to Pre Delay: Auto Pre to Pre Delay: Auto All Pre to ACT Delay: Auto All Pre to REF Delay: Auto DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled DRAM Dynamic Write Control: Enabled DRAM Read Training: Enabled DRAM Write Training: Enabled MEM OC Charger: Enabled Ai Clock Twister: auto AI Transaction Booster: Auto CPU Voltage: Auto CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): Auto CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): Auto CPU PLL Voltage: Auto FSB Termination Voltage: Auto DRAM Voltage: 1.8 NB Voltage: 1.14 NB GTL Voltage: Auto SB Voltage: auto PCIE SATA Voltage: Auto Load-Line Calibration: Enabled CPU Spread Spectrum: disabled PCIE Spread Spectrum: disabled CPU Clock Skew: Auto NB Clock Skew: Auto CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimize Mode I found them here http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&id=20090322234134487&board_id=1&model=P5Q3 Deluxe/WiFi-AP @n&page=2&count=12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevoh Posted May 6, 2009 Author Share Posted May 6, 2009 With 4 modules I would suggest setting the memory frequency at DDR1066 or DDR1333 and set the memory Voltage to 1.7-1.90 Volts and set the NB/MCH/SPP Voltage to +.05 Volts as well and test the system with http://www.memtest.org. In addition, with some MB's (Mostly ASUS) you have to disable legacy USB in the bios when running any memory test. Ok, I did this, but unfortunaly, I still experienced the same problem. Here are the BIOS settings I tried : AI Overclock Tweaker Configure Advanced CPU Settings CPU Ratio Setting = [color="DarkOrange"]Auto or 9 (I tried both configurations)[/color] C1E Support = Enabled Configure System Performance Settings Ai OVerclocking Tuner = Manual CPU Ratio Setting =[color="DarkOrange"] Auto or 9 (I tried both configurations)[/color] FSB Frequency = [color="DarkOrange"]333[/color] PCIE Frequency = 100 FSB Strap to North Bridge = [color="DarkOrange"]Auto or 333 (I tried both configurations)[/color] DRAM Frequency = [color="DarkOrange"]DDR3-1333 MHz[/color] Dram CLK Skew on Channel A1 = Auto Dram CLK Skew on Channel A2 = Auto Dram CLK Skew on Channel B1 = Auto Dram CLK Skew on Channel B2 = Auto Dram TIming COntrol = Manual Primary Information CAS# Latency = [color="DarkOrange"]9 DRAM Clocks[/color] DRAM RAS# to CAS #Delay = [color="DarkOrange"]9 DRAM Clocks[/color] DRAM RAS# Precharge = [color="DarkOrange"]9 DRAM Clocks[/color] DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge = [color="DarkOrange"]24 DRAM Clocks[/color] RAS# to RAS# Delay = Auto Row Refresh Cycle Time = [color="DarkOrange"]Auto or 60 DRAM Clocks (I tried both configurations)[/color] Write Recovery Time = Auto Read to Precharge Time = Auto Secondary Information Read to Write Delay (S/D) = Auto Write to Read Delay (S) = Auto Write to Read Delay (D) = Auto Read to Read Delay (S) = Auto Read to Read Delay (D) = Auto Write to Write Delay (S) = Auto Write to Write Delay (D) = Auto Third Information WRITE to PRE delay = Auto READ to PRE delay = Auto PRE to PRE delay = Auto ALL PRE to ACT delay = Auto ALL PRE to RED Delay = Auto DRAM Static Read Control = Disabled DRAM Dynamic Write Control = Disabled DRAM Read Training = [color="DarkOrange"]Enabled or Disabled (I tried both configurations)[/color] DRAM Write Training = [color="DarkOrange"]Enabled or Disabled (I tried both configurations)[/color] MEM. OC Charger = Enabled Ai Clock Twister= Auto Ai Transaction Booster= Auto Voltages CPU Voltage = Auto CPU GTL Voltage Reference(0/2) = Auto CPU GTL Voltage Reference(1/3) = Auto CPU PLL Voltage = Auto FSB Termination Voltage = Auto DRAM Voltage = [color="DarkOrange"]1.8v[/color] NB Voltage = [color="DarkOrange"]1.16v[/color] NB GTL Reference = Auto SB Voltage = Auto PCIE SATA Voltage = Auto ************************************************** Load-Line Calibration = Auto CPU Clock Skew = Auto NB Clock Skew = Auto CPU Margin Enhancement = Optimized None of those settings worked with all the four modules installed. Moreover, I tried the following configurations with modules coming from the new kit : Both modules in black slots (1 in DIMM_A1 and 1 in DIMM_B1)Both modules in orange slots (1 in DIMM_A2 and 1 in DIMM_B2)1 module in DIMM_A11 module in DIMM_B11 module in DIMM_A21 module in DIMM_B2 None of those configurations worked :[pouts: Since I tested modules from the new kit alons, is there any chance I just got bad luck and bought a failing kit? Thx in advance for your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted May 6, 2009 Corsair Employee Share Posted May 6, 2009 Try them at DDR1066 and leave the timings at Auto and set the memory Voltage to 1.8 Volts and make sure Command Rate is set to 2T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevoh Posted May 7, 2009 Author Share Posted May 7, 2009 Try them at DDR1066 and leave the timings at Auto and set the memory Voltage to 1.8 Volts and make sure Command Rate is set to 2T. Hello, on this motherboard, there is no Command Rate option in the BIOS. It is automaticaly set to 2T. Moreover, I tried the settings you mentioned, and I still can't boot. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted May 8, 2009 Corsair Employee Share Posted May 8, 2009 Test all of the modules one at a time to be sure one is not failing then test one module in all four slots to be sure there is not some problem with one of the slots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevoh Posted May 8, 2009 Author Share Posted May 8, 2009 Test all of the modules one at a time to be sure one is not failing then test one module in all four slots to be sure there is not some problem with one of the slots. I made different tests, as you suggested, so here are the results. First, let's define some words : Old_M1 is Module n°1 from the old kit Old_M2 is Module n°2 from the old kit New_M1 is Module n°1 from the new kit New_M2 is Module n°2 from the new kit For the first test, I performed a clear CMOS and every BIOS settings are set to their default values. Old_M1 in DIMM_A1 --> OK Old_M1 in DIMM_A2 --> OK Old_M1 in DIMM_B1 --> OK Old_M1 in DIMM_B2 --> OK Old_M2 in DIMM_A1 --> OK Old_M2 in DIMM_A2 --> OK Old_M2 in DIMM_B1 --> OK Old_M2 in DIMM_B2 --> OK New_M1 in DIMM_A1 --> FAILED TO BOOT New_M1 in DIMM_A2 --> FAILED TO BOOT New_M1 in DIMM_B1 --> FAILED TO BOOT New_M1 in DIMM_B2 --> FAILED TO BOOT New_M2 in DIMM_A1 --> FAILED TO BOOT New_M2 in DIMM_A2 --> FAILED TO BOOT New_M2 in DIMM_B1 --> FAILED TO BOOT New_M2 in DIMM_B2 --> FAILED TO BOOT For the second test, I left every BIOS settings at their default values but the DRAM Voltage, that I set at 1.8V, and NB the voltage, that I set at 1.16V. Here are the restults. Old_M1 in DIMM_A1 --> OK Old_M1 in DIMM_A2 --> OK Old_M1 in DIMM_B1 --> OK Old_M1 in DIMM_B2 --> OK Old_M2 in DIMM_A1 --> OK Old_M2 in DIMM_A2 --> OK Old_M2 in DIMM_B1 --> OK Old_M2 in DIMM_B2 --> OK New_M1 in DIMM_A1 --> FAILED TO BOOT New_M1 in DIMM_A2 --> FAILED TO BOOT New_M1 in DIMM_B1 --> FAILED TO BOOT New_M1 in DIMM_B2 --> FAILED TO BOOT New_M2 in DIMM_A1 --> FAILED TO BOOT New_M2 in DIMM_A2 --> FAILED TO BOOT New_M2 in DIMM_B1 --> FAILED TO BOOT New_M2 in DIMM_B2 --> FAILED TO BOOT Same as test 1... For the third test I set FSB=333, 9-9-9-24, etc... I won't paste again, I had the same results. Hence, I made 3 other tests, which are the exact same as those latters, but at DRAM frequency = 1066 instead of 1333. I also had the exact same results. My conclusions are : all my slots work perfectly well. I just had bad luck with the new kit, it doesn't work. What do you think about it? PS : thx a lot for all the time you're spending with me, I really appreciate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted May 8, 2009 Corsair Employee Share Posted May 8, 2009 With just one of the new modules make sure the power is off and remove the C-Mos Battery and then use the Jumper on the MB to reset the MB BIOS and then once you put it back to normal try and trun it on and see if it will post. If they still wont post Let's get them replaced, please use the On Line RMA Request Form and we will be happy to replace them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevoh Posted May 9, 2009 Author Share Posted May 9, 2009 With just one of the new modules make sure the power is off and remove the C-Mos Battery and then use the Jumper on the MB to reset the MB BIOS and then once you put it back to normal try and trun it on and see if it will post. Oh, I forgot to mention that I did a clear CMOS before the tests. Ok, well, I guess I'll ask for replacement then. Thx again for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevoh Posted May 28, 2009 Author Share Posted May 28, 2009 Hi there, I received my new pair of modules yesterday, and everything works great now! :sunglasse Moreover, just so you know, here are my BIOS settings : Ai OVerclocking Tuner = Manual [color="SeaGreen"]CPU Ratio Setting = 9[/color] [color="SeaGreen"]FSB Frequency = 400[/color] [color="SeaGreen"]PCIE Frequency = 100[/color] [color="SeaGreen"]FSB Strap to North Bridge = Auto[/color] [color="SeaGreen"]DRAM Frequency = DDR3-1601 MHz[/color] Dram CLK Skew on Channel A1 = Auto Dram CLK Skew on Channel A2 = Auto Dram CLK Skew on Channel B1 = Auto Dram CLK Skew on Channel B2 = Auto Dram TIming COntrol = Manual Primary Information [color="SeaGreen"]CAS# Latency = 9 DRAM Clocks[/color] [color="SeaGreen"]DRAM RAS# to CAS #Delay = 9 DRAM Clocks[/color] [color="SeaGreen"]DRAM RAS# Precharge = 9 DRAM Clocks[/color] [color="SeaGreen"]DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge = 24 DRAM Clocks[/color] RAS# to RAS# Delay = Auto Row Refresh Cycle Time = Auto Write Recovery Time = Auto Read to Precharge Time = Auto Secondary Information Read to Write Delay (S/D) = Auto Write to Read Delay (S) = Auto Write to Read Delay (D) = Auto Read to Read Delay (S) = Auto Read to Read Delay (D) = Auto Write to Write Delay (S) = Auto Write to Write Delay (D) = Auto Third Information WRITE to PRE delay = Auto READ to PRE delay = Auto PRE to PRE delay = Auto ALL PRE to ACT delay = Auto ALL PRE to RED Delay = Auto DRAM Static Read Control = Disabled DRAM Dynamic Write Control = Disabled DRAM Read Training = Enabled or Disabled (I tried both configurations) DRAM Write Training = Enabled or Disabled (I tried both configurations) MEM. OC Charger = Enabled Ai Clock Twister= Auto Ai Transaction Booster= Auto Voltages CPU Voltage = Auto CPU GTL Voltage Reference(0/2) = Auto CPU GTL Voltage Reference(1/3) = Auto CPU PLL Voltage = Auto FSB Termination Voltage = Auto [color="SeaGreen"]DRAM Voltage = 1.8v[/color] [color="SeaGreen"]NB Voltage = 1.16v[/color] NB GTL Reference = Auto SB Voltage = Auto PCIE SATA Voltage = Auto ************************************************** Load-Line Calibration = Auto CPU Clock Skew = Auto NB Clock Skew = Auto CPU Margin Enhancement = Optimized So, ad you can see, they work at 1600MHz. Moreover, I wanted to thank you very much for the help. Actually, I have to say that I was disappointed at first, and I was like "Damn, I spent money to get high end mother board and RAM modules and they don't work together :mad:", but now I saw the support (forum support and modules replacement) I can tell you that I'll keep buying corsair products in the future. :biggrin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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