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Hi everyone,

 

I post here since my problem is related.

 

I have the same motherboard with 2GB (CORSAIR TW3X2G1600C9DHX) and an INTEL Core 2 Duo E8400.

 

Until today everything went well using the following settings :

 

AI Overclock Tweaker

Configure Advanced CPU Settings

CPU Ratio Setting = Auto
C1E Support = Enabled

Configure System Performance Settings

Ai OVerclocking Tuner = Manual
CPU Ratio Setting = Auto
FSB Frequency = 400
PCIE Frequency = 100
FSB Strap to North Bridge = Auto
DRAM Frequency =  DDR3-1601MHz
Dram CLK Skew on Channel A1 = Auto
Dram CLK Skew on Channel A2 = Auto
Dram CLK Skew on Channel B1 = Auto
Dram CLK Skew on Channel B2 = Auto
Dram TIming COntrol =   Manual 

Primary Information

CAS# Latency = 9 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS #Delay = 9 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge =  9 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge = 24 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay = Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time = 60 DRAM Clocks
Write Recovery Time = Auto
Read to Precharge Time = Auto

Secondary Information

Read to Write Delay (S/D) = Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) =  Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) = Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) = Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) = Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) = Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) = Auto

Third Information

WRITE to PRE delay = Auto
READ to PRE delay = Auto
PRE to PRE delay = Auto
ALL PRE to ACT delay = Auto
ALL PRE to RED Delay = Auto
DRAM Static Read Control =  Disabled
DRAM Dynamic Write Control =  Disabled
DRAM Read Training =  Disabled
DRAM Write Training =  Disabled
MEM. OC Charger  = Enabled
Ai Clock Twister=  Auto
Ai Transaction Booster= Auto

Voltages

CPU Voltage = Auto
CPU GTL Voltage Reference(0/2) = Auto
CPU GTL Voltage Reference(1/3) = Auto
CPU PLL Voltage = Auto
FSB Termination Voltage = Auto
DRAM Voltage = 1.8v
NB Voltage = Auto
NB GTL Reference = Auto
SB Voltage = Auto
PCIE SATA Voltage = Auto
**************************************************
Load-Line Calibration = Auto
CPU Clock Skew = Auto
NB Clock Skew = Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement = Optimized

 

But I wanted to increase my RAM from 2GB to 4GB and I bought the exact same kit (CORSAIR TW3X2G1600C9DHX).

 

Unfortunaly, it's impossible to boot with all the four modules installed on the motherboard. Hence, I tried to reboot with only 2GB by using the NEW kit, and surprise! It doesn't boot at all. I can't even reach my BIOS...

So I reinstalled the OLD kit, and everything is back to normal, but I still only have 2GB :)

 

What should I try?

 

Thx in advance.

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Do both modules of the new kit not give you boot when tested singly and in different slots?

 

Unfortunaly, it's impossible to boot with all the four modules installed on the motherboard. Hence, I tried to reboot with only 2GB by using the NEW kit, and surprise! It doesn't boot at all. I can't even reach my BIOS...
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Do both modules of the new kit not give you boot when tested singly and in different slots?

 

Exactly. Here's a picture of the system memory overview (from the official manual)

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5410/mbdimm2.th.jpg

 

Here are the different configurations I tried

  • Both modules in black slots (1 in DIMM_A1 and 1 in DIMM_B1)
  • Both modules in orange slots (1 in DIMM_A2 and 1 in DIMM_B2)
  • 1 module in DIMM_A1
  • 1 module in DIMM_B1
  • 1 module in DIMM_A2
  • 1 module in DIMM_B2

 

As you can see, I tried almost every configuration...

 

The working configuration is both modules from the old kit in orange slots.

 

Thank you for your answer, what should I try now please?

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With 4 modules I would suggest setting the memory frequency at DDR1066 or DDR1333 and set the memory Voltage to 1.7-1.90 Volts and set the NB/MCH/SPP Voltage to +.05 Volts as well and test the system with http://www.memtest.org. In addition, with some MB's (Mostly ASUS) you have to disable legacy USB in the bios when running any memory test.
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With 4 modules I would suggest setting the memory frequency at DDR1066 or DDR1333 and set the memory Voltage to 1.7-1.90 Volts and set the NB/MCH/SPP Voltage to +.05 Volts as well and test the system with http://www.memtest.org. In addition, with some MB's (Mostly ASUS) you have to disable legacy USB in the bios when running any memory test.

 

Ok, thx for that answer. (I pretty sure I already read it somewhere in this forum :biggrin:) I'll try it tonight.

 

But that doesn't explain why I can't boot with the 2 modules from the new kit...

 

Moreover, what do you think of this BIOS specs?

 

Ai Overclocker Tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 400
PCIE Frequency: 100
FSB Strap To North Bridge:auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR3_1600
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS Latency: 9
DRAM RAS to CAS Delay: 9
DRAM RAS Precharge: 9
DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge: 24
RAS TO RAS Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time: Auto
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read To Precharge Time: Auto
Read to Write Delay(S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay(S): Auto
Write to Read Delay(D): Auto
Read to Read Delay(S): Auto
Read to Read Delay(D): Auto
Write to Write Delay(S): Auto
Write to Write Delay(D): Auto
Write to Pre Delay: Auto
Read to Pre Delay: Auto
Pre to Pre Delay: Auto
All Pre to ACT Delay: Auto
All Pre to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
DRAM Dynamic Write Control: Enabled
DRAM Read Training: Enabled
DRAM Write Training: Enabled 
MEM OC Charger: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister: auto 
AI Transaction Booster: Auto
CPU Voltage: Auto 
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): Auto
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: Auto
FSB Termination Voltage: Auto
DRAM Voltage: 1.8
NB Voltage: 1.14 
NB GTL Voltage: Auto
SB Voltage: auto 
PCIE SATA Voltage: Auto
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: disabled
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimize Mode

 

I found them here http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&id=20090322234134487&board_id=1&model=P5Q3 Deluxe/WiFi-AP @n&page=2&count=12.

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With 4 modules I would suggest setting the memory frequency at DDR1066 or DDR1333 and set the memory Voltage to 1.7-1.90 Volts and set the NB/MCH/SPP Voltage to +.05 Volts as well and test the system with http://www.memtest.org. In addition, with some MB's (Mostly ASUS) you have to disable legacy USB in the bios when running any memory test.

 

Ok, I did this, but unfortunaly, I still experienced the same problem.

 

Here are the BIOS settings I tried :

 

AI Overclock Tweaker

Configure Advanced CPU Settings

CPU Ratio Setting = [color="DarkOrange"]Auto or 9 (I tried both configurations)[/color]
C1E Support = Enabled

Configure System Performance Settings

Ai OVerclocking Tuner = Manual
CPU Ratio Setting =[color="DarkOrange"] Auto or 9 (I tried both configurations)[/color]
FSB Frequency = [color="DarkOrange"]333[/color]
PCIE Frequency = 100
FSB Strap to North Bridge = [color="DarkOrange"]Auto or 333 (I tried both configurations)[/color]
DRAM Frequency =  [color="DarkOrange"]DDR3-1333 MHz[/color]
Dram CLK Skew on Channel A1 = Auto
Dram CLK Skew on Channel A2 = Auto
Dram CLK Skew on Channel B1 = Auto
Dram CLK Skew on Channel B2 = Auto
Dram TIming COntrol =   Manual 

Primary Information

CAS# Latency = [color="DarkOrange"]9 DRAM Clocks[/color]
DRAM RAS# to CAS #Delay = [color="DarkOrange"]9 DRAM Clocks[/color]
DRAM RAS# Precharge =  [color="DarkOrange"]9 DRAM Clocks[/color]
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge = [color="DarkOrange"]24 DRAM Clocks[/color]
RAS# to RAS# Delay = Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time = [color="DarkOrange"]Auto or 60 DRAM Clocks (I tried both configurations)[/color]
Write Recovery Time = Auto
Read to Precharge Time = Auto

Secondary Information

Read to Write Delay (S/D) = Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) =  Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) = Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) = Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) = Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) = Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) = Auto

Third Information

WRITE to PRE delay = Auto
READ to PRE delay = Auto
PRE to PRE delay = Auto
ALL PRE to ACT delay = Auto
ALL PRE to RED Delay = Auto
DRAM Static Read Control =  Disabled
DRAM Dynamic Write Control =  Disabled
DRAM Read Training =  [color="DarkOrange"]Enabled or Disabled (I tried both configurations)[/color]
DRAM Write Training =  [color="DarkOrange"]Enabled or Disabled (I tried both configurations)[/color]
MEM. OC Charger  = Enabled
Ai Clock Twister=  Auto
Ai Transaction Booster= Auto

Voltages

CPU Voltage = Auto
CPU GTL Voltage Reference(0/2) = Auto
CPU GTL Voltage Reference(1/3) = Auto
CPU PLL Voltage = Auto
FSB Termination Voltage = Auto
DRAM Voltage = [color="DarkOrange"]1.8v[/color]
NB Voltage = [color="DarkOrange"]1.16v[/color]
NB GTL Reference = Auto
SB Voltage = Auto
PCIE SATA Voltage = Auto
**************************************************
Load-Line Calibration = Auto
CPU Clock Skew = Auto
NB Clock Skew = Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement = Optimized

 

None of those settings worked with all the four modules installed.

 

Moreover, I tried the following configurations with modules coming from the new kit :

  • Both modules in black slots (1 in DIMM_A1 and 1 in DIMM_B1)
  • Both modules in orange slots (1 in DIMM_A2 and 1 in DIMM_B2)
  • 1 module in DIMM_A1
  • 1 module in DIMM_B1
  • 1 module in DIMM_A2
  • 1 module in DIMM_B2

 

None of those configurations worked :[pouts:

 

Since I tested modules from the new kit alons, is there any chance I just got bad luck and bought a failing kit?

 

Thx in advance for your answer.

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Try them at DDR1066 and leave the timings at Auto and set the memory Voltage to 1.8 Volts and make sure Command Rate is set to 2T.

 

Hello,

 

on this motherboard, there is no Command Rate option in the BIOS. It is automaticaly set to 2T.

 

Moreover, I tried the settings you mentioned, and I still can't boot. :-(

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Test all of the modules one at a time to be sure one is not failing then test one module in all four slots to be sure there is not some problem with one of the slots.
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Test all of the modules one at a time to be sure one is not failing then test one module in all four slots to be sure there is not some problem with one of the slots.

 

I made different tests, as you suggested, so here are the results.

 

First, let's define some words :

  • Old_M1 is Module n°1 from the old kit
  • Old_M2 is Module n°2 from the old kit
  • New_M1 is Module n°1 from the new kit
  • New_M2 is Module n°2 from the new kit

 

For the first test, I performed a clear CMOS and every BIOS settings are set to their default values.

 

  • Old_M1 in DIMM_A1 --> OK
  • Old_M1 in DIMM_A2 --> OK
  • Old_M1 in DIMM_B1 --> OK
  • Old_M1 in DIMM_B2 --> OK
  • Old_M2 in DIMM_A1 --> OK
  • Old_M2 in DIMM_A2 --> OK
  • Old_M2 in DIMM_B1 --> OK
  • Old_M2 in DIMM_B2 --> OK
  • New_M1 in DIMM_A1 --> FAILED TO BOOT
  • New_M1 in DIMM_A2 --> FAILED TO BOOT
  • New_M1 in DIMM_B1 --> FAILED TO BOOT
  • New_M1 in DIMM_B2 --> FAILED TO BOOT
  • New_M2 in DIMM_A1 --> FAILED TO BOOT
  • New_M2 in DIMM_A2 --> FAILED TO BOOT
  • New_M2 in DIMM_B1 --> FAILED TO BOOT
  • New_M2 in DIMM_B2 --> FAILED TO BOOT

 

For the second test, I left every BIOS settings at their default values but the DRAM Voltage, that I set at 1.8V, and NB the voltage, that I set at 1.16V. Here are the restults.

 

  • Old_M1 in DIMM_A1 --> OK
  • Old_M1 in DIMM_A2 --> OK
  • Old_M1 in DIMM_B1 --> OK
  • Old_M1 in DIMM_B2 --> OK
  • Old_M2 in DIMM_A1 --> OK
  • Old_M2 in DIMM_A2 --> OK
  • Old_M2 in DIMM_B1 --> OK
  • Old_M2 in DIMM_B2 --> OK
  • New_M1 in DIMM_A1 --> FAILED TO BOOT
  • New_M1 in DIMM_A2 --> FAILED TO BOOT
  • New_M1 in DIMM_B1 --> FAILED TO BOOT
  • New_M1 in DIMM_B2 --> FAILED TO BOOT
  • New_M2 in DIMM_A1 --> FAILED TO BOOT
  • New_M2 in DIMM_A2 --> FAILED TO BOOT
  • New_M2 in DIMM_B1 --> FAILED TO BOOT
  • New_M2 in DIMM_B2 --> FAILED TO BOOT

 

Same as test 1...

 

For the third test I set FSB=333, 9-9-9-24, etc...

 

I won't paste again, I had the same results.

 

Hence, I made 3 other tests, which are the exact same as those latters, but at DRAM frequency = 1066 instead of 1333. I also had the exact same results.

 

My conclusions are : all my slots work perfectly well. I just had bad luck with the new kit, it doesn't work.

 

What do you think about it?

 

PS : thx a lot for all the time you're spending with me, I really appreciate.

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With just one of the new modules make sure the power is off and remove the C-Mos Battery and then use the Jumper on the MB to reset the MB BIOS and then once you put it back to normal try and trun it on and see if it will post.

 

If they still wont post Let's get them replaced, please use the On Line RMA Request Form and we will be happy to replace them.

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With just one of the new modules make sure the power is off and remove the C-Mos Battery and then use the Jumper on the MB to reset the MB BIOS and then once you put it back to normal try and trun it on and see if it will post.

 

Oh, I forgot to mention that I did a clear CMOS before the tests.

 

Ok, well, I guess I'll ask for replacement then.

 

Thx again for the help.

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Hi there,

 

I received my new pair of modules yesterday, and everything works great now! :sunglasse

 

Moreover, just so you know, here are my BIOS settings :

Ai OVerclocking Tuner = Manual
[color="SeaGreen"]CPU Ratio Setting = 9[/color]
[color="SeaGreen"]FSB Frequency = 400[/color]
[color="SeaGreen"]PCIE Frequency = 100[/color]
[color="SeaGreen"]FSB Strap to North Bridge = Auto[/color]
[color="SeaGreen"]DRAM Frequency =  DDR3-1601 MHz[/color]
Dram CLK Skew on Channel A1 = Auto
Dram CLK Skew on Channel A2 = Auto
Dram CLK Skew on Channel B1 = Auto
Dram CLK Skew on Channel B2 = Auto
Dram TIming COntrol =   Manual 

Primary Information

[color="SeaGreen"]CAS# Latency = 9 DRAM Clocks[/color]
[color="SeaGreen"]DRAM RAS# to CAS #Delay = 9 DRAM Clocks[/color]
[color="SeaGreen"]DRAM RAS# Precharge =  9 DRAM Clocks[/color]
[color="SeaGreen"]DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge = 24 DRAM Clocks[/color]
RAS# to RAS# Delay = Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time = Auto
Write Recovery Time = Auto
Read to Precharge Time = Auto

Secondary Information

Read to Write Delay (S/D) = Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) =  Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) = Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) = Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) = Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) = Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) = Auto

Third Information

WRITE to PRE delay = Auto
READ to PRE delay = Auto
PRE to PRE delay = Auto
ALL PRE to ACT delay = Auto
ALL PRE to RED Delay = Auto
DRAM Static Read Control =  Disabled
DRAM Dynamic Write Control =  Disabled
DRAM Read Training =  Enabled or Disabled (I tried both configurations)
DRAM Write Training =  Enabled or Disabled (I tried both configurations)
MEM. OC Charger  = Enabled
Ai Clock Twister=  Auto
Ai Transaction Booster= Auto

Voltages

CPU Voltage = Auto
CPU GTL Voltage Reference(0/2) = Auto
CPU GTL Voltage Reference(1/3) = Auto
CPU PLL Voltage = Auto
FSB Termination Voltage = Auto
[color="SeaGreen"]DRAM Voltage = 1.8v[/color]
[color="SeaGreen"]NB Voltage = 1.16v[/color]
NB GTL Reference = Auto
SB Voltage = Auto
PCIE SATA Voltage = Auto
**************************************************
Load-Line Calibration = Auto
CPU Clock Skew = Auto
NB Clock Skew = Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement = Optimized

 

So, ad you can see, they work at 1600MHz.

 

Moreover, I wanted to thank you very much for the help. Actually, I have to say that I was disappointed at first, and I was like "Damn, I spent money to get high end mother board and RAM modules and they don't work together :mad:", but now I saw the support (forum support and modules replacement) I can tell you that I'll keep buying corsair products in the future. :biggrin:

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