Bedo Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 I have inserted my specs in my profile. I think I have found a "quite" stable config for my computer, it is: (last bios installed 0809) BCLK: 170 MHz CPU frequency: 3570 MHz (21 x 170) Ram frequency: 1704 MHz UCLK: 3408 MHz CPU volt: 1.15 QPI volt: 1.35 Dram bus volt: 1.65 Timings: 8-8-8-24 (1N) With this settings running memtest86+ for 5.30 hours; I receive 3 errors, all in test #7: TST PASS FAILING ADDRESS GOOD BAD ERR-BITS COUNT 7 0 00117575464-4469.3Mb 36372EB3 34372EB3 02000000 1 7 1 00117A0D464-4474.8Mb 7E692DFA 7C692DFA 02000000 2 7 8 00117AB5464-4474.3Mb FB17D102 F917D102 02000000 3 Total runtime: 5 h 30 min Passes: 9 1) Should I be aware and fix this? How? I found that it could be a temp problem but my ram is at about 30°C (I have put a termal sensor and there is DHX). 2) Is there a way to obtain a stable overcloking with ram @ 1800-2000? Every time that I try to go above 1700, windows freezes during boot. It also freezes when I set X.M.P in BIOS (others settings on "Auto")!! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted August 11, 2009 Corsair Employee Share Posted August 11, 2009 Maybe just the top end of your CPU and what do you have the QPI Voltage set to for the memory controller? And I would try and set the Command Rate to 2T as well and see if that helps. And do you have a (D0) Stepping CPU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedo Posted August 11, 2009 Author Share Posted August 11, 2009 Maybe just the top end of your CPU Sorry, I don't understand... what do you have the QPI Voltage set to for the memory controller? My QPI voltage is 1.35. Is there another QPI voltage for the memory controller? And I would try and set the Command Rate to 2T as well and see if that helps. Ok, should I try this to fix errors in test #7 or to increase frequency? And do you have a (D0) Stepping CPU? Yes, I have a D0 stepping CPU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 He means that your 1 Ghz overclock may be all that the processor / memory controller can handle, which can limit the speed of the memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedo Posted August 11, 2009 Author Share Posted August 11, 2009 No, that's wrong because even if I don't overclock CPU, I can't get a stable Ram at 1800-2000 Mhz: Setting everything on "Auto" in BIOS and just using X.M.P. Profile (which means ram at 2000Mhz, Dram Bus 1.65, QPI volt 1.40) windows doesn't start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedo Posted August 11, 2009 Author Share Posted August 11, 2009 And I would try and set the Command Rate to 2T as well and see if that helps. CPU-Z says that my current Command Rate is 1T but from BIOS I can't find a way to modify it. I searched in OC and Timings options but I didn't find it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted August 11, 2009 Corsair Employee Share Posted August 11, 2009 Command Rate is a CPU Setting so check there or in Advanced memory settings and I would try and enable XMP with the latest BIOS version loaded and then set the QPI Dram Voltage to 1.3-1.35 Volts and see if its more stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedo Posted August 12, 2009 Author Share Posted August 12, 2009 I don't find a way to modify Command Rate on my Asus Rampage II Gene with i7 Core 920 D0... XMP is always unstable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted August 12, 2009 Corsair Employee Share Posted August 12, 2009 Yes it will be with a (D0) Stepping CPU as the default QPI Voltage will be 1.6 Volts and like I explained previously stated that CPU will not like the QPI above 1.4 Volts, so please try what I said and go to BIOS setup and then load setup defaults and then enable XMP and then set the QPI Memory Voltage to 1.35 Volts and exit the BIOS and run http://www.memtest.org and see if it will pass and if not then try the QPI memory Voltage at 1.4 Volts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedo Posted August 23, 2009 Author Share Posted August 23, 2009 Ok, I have done a lot of tests. First of all I resetted all BIOS settings to AUTO and then I enabled X.M.P profile changing QPI volt to 1.35 a) So settings were: 2000Mhz, 8-8-8-24-2N, QPI 1.35, DRam volt 1.65 System does not boot (screen locks-up during Windows boot). b) Same settings, but changing QPI volt to 1.40 2000Mhz, 8-8-8-24-2N, QPI 1.40, DRam volt 1.65 System does not boot (screen locks-up during Windows boot) c) So I tried some manually config: 2000Mhz, 9-9-9-25-2N, QPI 1.40, DRam volt 1.65 System freezes after 10-20 secs (screen lock-up) d) A lot of other tests: 1800Mhz, 10-10-10-26-2N, QPI 1.35, DRam volt 1.65 System freezes surfing on the web after 1 min (screen lock-up) Ram 1708Mhz, 8-8-8-24-2N, QPI 1.35, DRam volt 1.65 Proc 3800Mhz (BCLK 213Mhz) System freezes surfing on the web after 1 min (screen lock-up) Ram 1600Mhz, 8-8-8-24-2N, QPI 1.3475, DRam volt 1.65 Proc 3800Mhz (BCLK 200Mhz) System stable testing with Prime95 In every test (except with X.M.P profile where everything was on "Auto") UCLK was RamFreq x 2. IOH and ICH volt on Auto. PLL volt on Auto. So... there is no way to go above 1700Mhz and don't get lock-ups in 1 min! What should I do? Again, no way to change Command-Rate. Edit: another question. Why can't I find my RAM (TR3X6G2000C8GTF) in your online shop? https://shop.corsair.com/store/default.aspx?category_id=766409 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted August 24, 2009 Corsair Employee Share Posted August 24, 2009 Like I said more then likely just the top end of that CPU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 The part number was changed to reflect the new part number system (FAQ coming soon). You'll find it in the store as CMG6GX3M3A2000C8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedo Posted August 25, 2009 Author Share Posted August 25, 2009 Like I said more then likely just the top end of that CPU. Top end of that CPU? I can set my C.P.U freq on Auto (2.4-2.6 GHz), enable X.M.P. or try a manual overclock to 1800MHz and still can't boot my computer... Do you mean this isn't a ram problem? I have never booted my computer with ram speed above 1700MHz. No one bios-config is stable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted August 25, 2009 Corsair Employee Share Posted August 25, 2009 If you want to over clock the CPU leave the memory at Auto and do not enable XMP then once the CPU is stable you can play with the memory settings to get the best performance. But if you over clock XMP must be disabled and the memory set manually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedo Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 Ok, but suppose that I want to set ram at 1800MHz-2000MHz, without overclocking CPU, what should I do considering XMP profile doesn't work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted August 26, 2009 Corsair Employee Share Posted August 26, 2009 Did you try and enable XMP and then adjust the QPI Voltage? Yes it will be with a (D0) Stepping CPU as the default QPI Voltage will be 1.6 Volts and like I explained previously stated that CPU will not like the QPI above 1.4 Volts, so please try what I said and go to BIOS setup and then load setup defaults and then enable XMP and then set the QPI Memory Voltage to 1.35 Volts and exit the BIOS and run http://www.memtest.org and see if it will pass and if not then try the QPI memory Voltage at 1.4 Volts. If so and it will still not reach 2000 MHz on the memory then it is likely the CPU, will they run at DDR1600 or DDR1866? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedo Posted August 27, 2009 Author Share Posted August 27, 2009 Yes, I tried, and still not reach 2000MHz. They run at 1600MHz but they don't run at 1866MHz So do you think that i7 920 D0 can't run RAM above 1800? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted August 27, 2009 Corsair Employee Share Posted August 27, 2009 Yes I suspect it is the CPU but we can try replacing the modules if you like, please use the On Line RMA Request Form and we will be happy to replace them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedo Posted August 28, 2009 Author Share Posted August 28, 2009 Do you know, at Corsair, anyone running dominator at above 1700MHz with Intel Core i7 920 D0? If yes, maybe I can try to replace my modules... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagimp16 Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 I have a 920 D0 and it runs at 4.2ghz HT on @ 1.43v RAM at 2000 7-8-7-20 2N @ 1.65v, QPI volt is 1.625 in BIOS. I don't know why but my CPU needs every bit of the QPI voltage to push the mem at that speed, not common of a D0. I've tried everything starting at 1.325v QPI and it doesn't stabilize until 1.625v QPI (BIOS reports 1.60v actual). My temps are too high for my liking with those settings, so I'm happily stable at 4.4Ghz HT off @ 1.39v RAM at 1683 6-7-6-17 2N @ 1.65v, QPI is ~1.375v. I tried to push the RAM to 2105 7-8-7-20 2N and it just won't do it. The QPI needs to be over 1.625, and I'm just not doing it, no way. The XMP settings worked fine for me straight out of the box with 1.625v QPI and no OC on the CPU. It does sound like the CPU is the culprit to me. I would try to set the QPI at 1.625v and back it down slowly til you get the lowest stable voltage instead of the 1.4v you were using. WATCH THOSE TEMPS!!! 1.625v QPI does increase the core temps quite a bit. If you have adequete cooling you should be able to do it. I am underwater and the CPU core temps with 1.625v QPI were in the mid-upper 80's ©. Now I don't break 80 ©. Temps taken with RealTemp 3.0, tjmax set to 100. EDIT: My RAM is the C7 set not the C8 so my timings should be tighter than yours at the same speed and voltage. If you are using the stock cooler, I would not recommend setting the QPI above 1.375v regardless of what RAM you have. The Dominator GTs definetly cause more heat to the CPU than slower rated modules due to the QPI voltage. But of course, all parts are different and just because my settings work for me doesn't mean they will work for you. Good luck. :D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted August 28, 2009 Corsair Employee Share Posted August 28, 2009 Thank you dagimp16 for posting that information And Bedo please let us know if you have any more questions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedo Posted August 30, 2009 Author Share Posted August 30, 2009 Very useful information dagimp16, thank you a lot! However I have asked in some forums and there are a lot of people running ram @2000MHz with Intel Core i7 920 D0, they all use high QPI voltage. So I have tried to enable XMP profile without overclocking CPU and to set QPI voltage to 1.625 but my computer still doesn't boot. Now I'm running CPU @ 4028Mhz 1.25v and ram @ 1700MHz 1.65v, QPI 1.3625. Memtest reports 2-3 errors always in test #7 (in 5 hours) and always with the same bit and in the same memory area (please see the first post of this thread). Maybe I have a Bad Part? Considering a possible RMA, I have a quite "old" Corsair 4 x 1GB DDR3 XMS memory (dual channel). Could I run it with i7 and Rampage II Gene or is it incompatible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkyhz Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Same here with the CMG6GX3M3A2000C8 cant reach the 2000MHz Im also overclock at 4GHz 1.400v (bclk 200 x20), QPI 3.6GHz 1.515.v NB 3.8GHz max stable RAM 1600MHz 9,9,9,24,74,1T ratio 2:8 I tried the overclock with XMP Profile 1 (enable) ...nothing, still crash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedo Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share Posted September 2, 2009 Very useful information dagimp16, thank you a lot! However I have asked in some forums and there are a lot of people running ram @2000MHz with Intel Core i7 920 D0, they all use high QPI voltage. So I have tried to enable XMP profile without overclocking CPU and to set QPI voltage to 1.625 but my computer still doesn't boot. Now I'm running CPU @ 4028Mhz 1.25v and ram @ 1700MHz 1.65v, QPI 1.3625. Memtest reports 2-3 errors always in test #7 (in 5 hours) and always with the same bit and in the same memory area (please see the first post of this thread). Maybe I have a Bad Part? Considering a possible RMA, I have a quite "old" Corsair 4 x 1GB DDR3 XMS memory (dual channel). Could I run it with i7 and Rampage II Gene or is it incompatible? Could you help me, please? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagimp16 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Remove all of your OC settings. BIOS settings should all be stock. Then enable the XMP profile (or OC via XMP Profile). Don't change anything manually, the RAM should be the only settings changed. At that point, go ahead and run memtest. The idea is to test the RAM at it's rated speed and timings, not the OC of the system. Test 'em and let us know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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