GabyZ Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Could anyone give me some support about what settings I should use with my Q6600 on the P5K-Motherboard? I'm novice with OC and I'd like to know some fast info on how I can increase the frequency and what/when I have to change voltages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Until you get a good cooler for that CPU, it is advisable to go no further. You are already at 70C within 2 minutes of using Orthos. http://www.houseofhelp.com/v3/showthread.php?t=67892 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GabyZ Posted March 23, 2008 Author Share Posted March 23, 2008 I'm at 70 with OCCT, no problem for 6 hours of orthos and prime95 (for all cores). Anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukdanny Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 hi if the cpu at 70c that not good get a zalman 9700 fan i over clock my Q6600 to 3.66 and it go to 18c max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 hi if the cpu at 70c that not good get a zalman 9700 fan i over clock my Q6600 to 3.66 and it go to 18c max 18C is lower than ambient, unless you have the computer in a very cool room. You have errors in your temperature readout. You should be around 55 - 60C load. One of the greatest issues with a stock cooler is the temperature drop delta. With an overclock the problem is not only the load temps, although are important to overall stability. Another problem is a hot idle and a minimal temperature drop delta. The temperature drop delta is not taken into account when running stress testing or a CPU running synthetically at full bore. With a good cooler, you will not reach as high a thermal when running real system intensive applications. So basically, the temperature drop delta is the length of time it takes for the temperature of the CPU to drop. For example, in gaming and application use, you do not make use of the CPU 100% of the time. There are points where data is being transferred, CPU use drops in multiple environments, multiplexing needs time to revive a stream, etc... During these times, the processor cores load drops and so does the thermal output of the cores. On a stock cooler, the time between the drops and the loads is marginalized by the coolers inability to release the thermal output and thus the CPU does not benefit nearly as much. With a cooler such as a Thermaltake BigTyphoon, Tuniq Tower and Thermalright Ultra-120 xTreme, you will not have these thermal issues. Thermalright has fixed an issue with their new released edition, and this is one of the best coolers around at the moment. It has a drop delta that is rapid and the CPU will benefit greatly from such a cooler. But even the Arctic Freezer is better than stock and with a 3.0/3.2Ghz overclock, it works decently. For the money you spent on this system, I don't think it is a good idea to cheap out and use the stock cooler when overclocking. Be good to your CPU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GabyZ Posted March 23, 2008 Author Share Posted March 23, 2008 The BigTyphoon also seems to be a good cooler, i'll probably go for the Thermalright as DerekT suggested. What about the thermal paste, the one provided with the Thermalright is one of the best or I should buy another one better... How do you suggest to apply the thermal paste, I mean that I should apply it verticalli and how much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 The BigTyphoon also seems to be a good cooler, i'll probably go for the Thermalright as DerekT suggested. What about the thermal paste, the one provided with the Thermalright is one of the best or I should buy another one better... How do you suggest to apply the thermal paste, I mean that I should apply it verticalli and how much? I use Arctic Silver MX for my machines, and keep the provided tube for other use. :eek: Quad Core (Intel Core 2 Quad) then just middle side of the cores. http://www.arcticsilver.com/pdf/appinstruct/as5/ins_as5_intel_quad_wcap.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GabyZ Posted March 24, 2008 Author Share Posted March 24, 2008 Great guide, thanks for the link! So I don't have to put the thermal greas on all the cpu, shoule be fine fith an horizzontal line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreeme Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 spread it over the heat spreader. I put a little little extra thick in the middle for quad core, it makes the cores little more even temp. The cover of cpu heat spreader some are cupped shaped a little and the low spot is often right where the core is. The actual cpu is tiny compaired to the heat spreader, its in the center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Great guide, thanks for the link! So I don't have to put the thermal greas on all the cpu, shoule be fine fith an horizzontal line? I lap the CPU and install the paste as the guide shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GabyZ Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 Installed the cooler, temps at 33° in Idle and 54 after 1hr of OCCT ;):. Thanks for the heatsink tip, the Thermalright 120 Ultra Extreme works like a dream. So...could you give me some tips for overclocking? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Installed the cooler, temps at 33° in Idle and 54 after 1hr of OCCT ;):. Thanks for the heatsink tip, the Thermalright 120 Ultra Extreme works like a dream. So, could you give me some tips for overclocking? Sure. Download CPU-z from Here . Download Core Temp HerePost screenshots of your CPU-z CPU, Memory and SPD tabs. Post a screeshot of CoreTemp as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GabyZ Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 Here's the screen. PS: I had to mod my Stacker STC-101 to put the fan (on the side) outside of the case because there wasn't enough space for the Thermalright :D: (I will fit into a normal case without side fan)... Now it looks also better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Set to these values for 3.0Ghz. Download OCCT Here URL="http://www.ocbase.com/download.php?fileext=exe"] Here[/url][/b][/i][/indent] AI Overclocking: Manual CPU Ratio Control: 9 FSB Frequency: 333 PCI-E Frequency: 100 DRAM Command Rate: 2T DRAM Frequency: 1066 FSB Strap to Northbridge: 333 DRAM Timing Control: Manual CAS# Latency: 5 RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 RAS# Precharge: 5 RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 TWR: Auto TRFC: Auto TWTR: Auto TRRD: Auto TRTP: Auto DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled Transaction Booster: Auto Clock Over-Charging Mode: Auto CPU Spread Spectrum: Enabled PCIE Spread Spectrum:Enabled CPU Voltage: Auto CPU Voltage Reference: Auto CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled CPU PLL Voltage: Auto DRAM Voltage: 2.1v FSB Termination Voltage: Auto North Bridge Voltage: 1.4 North Bridge Voltage Reference: Auto South Bridge Voltage: Auto Advance CPU SettingsCPU Ratio Control: 9 C1E Suppport: Enabled Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled Vanderpool Technology: Enabled CPU TM Function: Disabled Execute Disable Bit: Disabled PECI: DisabledRun OCCT and enter the settings button, set the monitoring to "Built In" and choose 70C as the max CPU temp. Let OCCT Run for the one hour. Please post a screenshot of Core Temp when OCCT has run for ~20 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GabyZ Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 It doesn't boot with FSB higher than 300MHz. It doesn't make any sound but it seems like the fans go to their maximum speed. I had exactly the same situation when I got my PC, however everything went ok when i moved the RAM to the black slots. Edit: I should increase the CPU voltage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GabyZ Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 I didn't found Max CPUID and PECI. Edit: The CPU frequency also goes to 1800 and returns to 2700 when I'm using the PC and I know that the function should be disabled isn't it? At 2,7 GHz OCCt gave me an error code 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GabyZ Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 Found the problem: With the P5K latest Bios for disable the Speedstep you have to set the CPU Ratio manually and the C!E Support Disabled! I'm at 310 FSBx9 with 1,3V for core, 1,4 for NB and 2,1 for RAM. Have to test now. Edit: Not stable, need tips for voltages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GabyZ Posted April 24, 2008 Author Share Posted April 24, 2008 Found a stable config with vcore 1,33. If I increase FSB to 305 with same vcore or a step higher i don't pass Prime, and so on...I can boot also at 2,8 but I don't pass Prime and I didn't found a way to get 3.0GHz. Now in the Bios I set the FSB to 300, multi at 9, ram at 1001MHz, vcore at 1,33 and the rest at default with spread disabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 So, if your load temps are fine, then you can increase your CPU voltage and continue. I had expected you to be able to make 333Mhz with 1.35v. Should be somewhere around stock. You should have no issues with 333Mhz and setting your strapping to 333 with the DRAM at 1066. Don't be afraid to raise the Core voltage a bit :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GabyZ Posted April 24, 2008 Author Share Posted April 24, 2008 I've also tried with 1,38v at 1066mhz and 333 with no system post. It loads fine ad 2,8GHz but it is not stable (also if I try with vcore 1,4).... I also tried to increase the NB/SB, PLL voltage, but it's the same... I don't know where's the mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 You could not make 333Mhz with Auto on your voltages? Other than DRAM that is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GabyZ Posted April 24, 2008 Author Share Posted April 24, 2008 No, Unfortunatelly I couldn't and I don't have other good DDR2 memory. I think that my memory simply sucks, I've paid 240 euros for the memory and my system isn't stable even at 3Ghz.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 No, Unfortunatelly I couldn't and I don't have other good DDR2 memory. I think that my memory simply sucks, I've paid 240 euros for the memory and my system isn't stable even at 3Ghz.... That makes absolutely no sense. It's stable in Memtest. Here's the proof. Drop your memory down to 800Mhz. Run Memtest. If it is stable, then test your overclock. Remember that the B3 is NOT a good overclocking Quad Core. At any rate, if the DRAM tests out fine, and the CPU still will not clock up, then the issue is the CPU since the DRAM is isolated out of the issue. Prime tests the CPU, even the Prime Memory test is mostly a CPU test. Memtest tests the complete stability of the DRAM. If it passes Memtest, then the DRAM is not the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GabyZ Posted April 25, 2008 Author Share Posted April 25, 2008 Ok this makes sense, I've tried also low frequencies with the memory so I suppose the CPU is the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOMINATORFX Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Ok this makes sense, I've tried also low frequencies with the memory so I suppose the CPU is the issue.I've been running my Q6600 B3 at 1333Mhz and the mem at 800Mhz for a year now guess I'm lucky! http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=299251 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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