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  1. Those are two different size radiators and fans unit. Generally speaking, any 360mm (H150i) will have a slight edge over any 280mm radiator (H115i). At high fan speeds, the differences its very narrow, but you can get away with a bit less speed in the middle zone where most of us like to stay. That said, there is a H115i 280mm for both the XT and Elite series as well as 360mm models for both - H150i XT and H150i Elite. Most people should choose based on the best fit for their case. It would be hard for me to make an argument for a 280mm over a 360mm in the 5000D. It's a natural 120mm case. I am not sure if your model distinction was a deliberate selection due to price or availability, but there are some differences between the XT and Elite series. 1) The Elite series has replaced the XT, but the underlying hardware (radiator, pump, and fan design) are effectively the same. Equal size models likely bring equal size results. 2) What sets the Elite series apart from the XT is RGB fans, OLED pump face, and an included combination RGB and PWM controller. There is a lot in the box, so the XT needs to be significantly less expensive to make it a more compelling offer -- or you hate RGB anything and have no need for a PWM fan controller for the whole system. That controller can handle up to 6 PWM fans, RGB or not. It can make everything controllable through the software. 3) Given your requirements, I would recommend the H150i Elite because of your interest in RGB, the 10900K, and the natural fit of the case. If this really is an either or kind of thing, I likely would choose the XT and upgrade the fans to RGB versions at some point. However, some people really like the OLED on the Elite pump. This is something you'll have to decide. Neither cooler will be a limitation to your overclocking. That will be the CPU itself and voltage/power. A 2C difference is not going to matter for that.
  2. Should be identical. Same blade, motor, and frame.
  3. The Commander gets its power from a SATA connector, but once you get to around 10 fans you are starting to run a higher risk. The official limit is 6. That said, I ran 10 for years but it ended like you would expect -- with some of the headers dropping off. The Commander has a lot to do with both 12v current for fans and 5v current for RGB. Two Commanders will provide you additional RGB lighting channels and provide more fan headers. This can work too and it's really a matter of economics (Commander Pro cost vs PWM hub + Lighting Node Pro). It should be close enough in cost you can choose on preference. In a tighter case I might push you toward the smaller repeater and LNP devices, but in the XL you can do 2 Commanders without much difficulty -- assuming you won't be filling the back end with HDDs. I've run two when I am fan/radiator testing for the extra temp sensor inputs.
  4. They do not appear to be available as a replacement part at this time, if you are looking to purchase. As far as specs go, it should be identical to the RGB model minus the 5v current for the RGB.
  5. See here for a very thorough display of hardware and requirements. https://forum.corsair.com/forums/topic/138723-zottys-corsair-rgb-hardware-and-icue-eco-system-faq/ Given the size of the cases, I am assuming the 7xLL140 and 8xLL120 are all in the same build. You can combine different size fans on the same RGB bub, so this is really 15 LL fans and their size and location does not matter. The max capacity of any RGB hub is 6 fans. At 15 you will need "three channels" + RGB Lighting Hubs to manage that. You also will want 1-2 channels left over to help with the water cooling hardware RGB. Each Commander Pro has 2 channels and you will have plenty of Lighting Node Pro + RGB Lighting Hubs in the LL multi-packs. You are covered there. For PWM control, you could get by with 2 Commander Pros and a couple of 2 way PWM splitters. However, most people with cases and radiators this large will have banks of 3-4 fans where they don't need individual speed control. A PWM repeater hub is a cheaper way to take 1 PWM control header from the commander pro and extend it to 4-10 fans, depending on the PWM hub you choose. So for example, if you had dual 480mm radiators on the front of the Corsair 1000D, you could take any of the 10 header PWM hubs and run all 8 fans from a single header on the Commander. There is no reason to run those fans at different speeds. The PWM hub will become essential if you are going to be doing push-pull as the 6-8 fans on a 360/480 will fill up your fans ports in an instant. You are going to need a lot of fan extensions and extensions in general in either case. Both are huge and will out-lengthen most standard products. There are strong discussion communities for both cases that probably can offer very detailed advice once you get to that stage.
  6. The fans that came with the GTX/v2 series coolers were SP120L and SP140L. They tended to be coarse in tone, high revving, and consequently unpleasing. As soon as the ML series came out it became almost an automatic replacement with slightly better performance and noise. A single ML120 Pro or even running the twin pack in push pull would be an improvement. If you stay with 120mm, you will see an improvement by getting it out of the GPU heat zone. Rear exhaust (even when run as intake) can be a tough location in a system with high gpu load. Proximity to the gpu will keep the coolant temp at a higher level than just the cpu heat alone. However, I also think you should consider upgrading to a 280mm. 120mm coolers can work for normal uses, but with a lower heat capacity it needs a pause in the action to keep up with a larger radiator. It’s not going to get it with your usage and you would benefit. You can get away with less fan speed on the 2x140 vs the push-pull 120s. The Elite series is the current Corsair model and comes with a lot of RGB, controllers, and RGB fans. If that is not of interest, you might prefer the former H115i Pro series or H115i XT, both of which are more subtle versions without RGB fans, come with ML fans in the box, and should be a welcome relief to the v2.
  7. 4.13.226 has not been posted to the downloads page yet. It is likely the notes will appear with that, like usual. Stands to reason it will be short.
  8. There is a sticky at the top of this section. In that thread is a link to a PDF copy. https://forum.corsair.com/forums/topic/170846-release-notes-for-icue-v413223/?tab=comments#comment-990789
  9. "Air glide" is the marketing name for the rear vane design. It is known as the SP-Elite. Fans included may vary with the exact 5000D model you choose. https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Fans/RGB-%26-LED-Fans/iCUE-SP-RGB-ELITE-Series-Fans/p/CO-9050109-WW
  10. I agree. No need to take special action for it and it will putting a tiny amount of heat into the system. Just find a natural path by it at some point.
  11. This is probably a better place to post for this issue, but since this is a hardware level problem, you are going to need a hardware solution (the powered hub). https://forum.corsair.com/forums/topic/168270-usb-connectivity-issues-related-to-amd-500-series-chipsets-megathread/
  12. Look in the Commander Core "Alerts" section for the device. I believe the Elite AIOs will have a 40C alarm built in, as most of the previous coolers did as well. However, once you trigger it, it must be dismissed to cancel the alarm state. You can turn off the alert in this panel or set it to a higher threshold. Hitting 40C isn't too difficult for anyone in a warm Summer climate. Not entirely sure what it is reverting to when you are not running CUE. However, if the custom curves are working, you should use them and I recommend most people do this anyway. In the lower right corner of the graph are several shape tools that match the presets. The middle one is balanced. Even if you have no interest in adjusting the curves and are fine with the presets, this at least allows you to see the data points. It also will allow you to tweak the baseline fan speed or the maximum, something you may want to do as the seasons change. A perfect fan curve in Winter may be too loud in Summer.
  13. It's not the total wattage on the PSU. The pump theoretically could use 30W at maximum (probably less on direct measurement) and the fans 3.6W at full speed. So just over 60W on the 12v rail with pump at fans at maximum. There is a separate draw on the 5v rail for all the RGB, but that PSU is listed at 24A on the 5v and I am running a similar level of RGB fans and blocks and it is nowhere close to the total limit. However, we have seen people run into issues when loading up a particular multi-connector SATA cable from the PSU with too much stuff on either the 12 or 5v rail. 1) Two Commander Pros should not be an issue. Lots of people are doing this and the power level will depend on what's connected. You certainly are not overloaded on either device, but is what's connected to it that will determine load. 2) The XD5 gets its power from the molex and the PWM/tach wire only sends a speed. If you try and fill with it connected, it will run the last known speed. In a default out of the box Commander, that is probably too slow to fill anything. Once you remove the PWM/tach wire, then it reverts to maximum and shouldn't have much trouble filling up. That said, there are a lot of reasons anyone can have trouble gets the flow going, but it usually does not revolve around power delivery to the pump. Air pockets, pressure, and gravity are almost always the things in the way. I think this clears those two components, but still have questions about the Commander that stopped the fans from spinning. I would start by looking at how all the devices are arranged on the various SATA connections. Even if the totals are technically under the maximum, I tend to split groups of devices so I don't end up with all the RGB on one SATA/PSU cable or all the 12v power on another. Your Commanders are doing double duty as fan controller (12v) and RGB controller (5v), so I would probably split them onto different SATA lines. Watch out if you have some higher speed HDDs in the back as they can draw on all the power rails and throw off your estimates. It also occurred to me you may be using the Lighting Node Core devices from the QL multipacks instead of Commander Pro RGB channels + RGB Lighting Hub. If so, then the 12v and 5v loads are split with the Commander mostly using 12v for fans and some light 5v for the XD5 or any other device connected to its channels. The LNC will have the larger chunk of 5v load with the QL fans. Too much 5v draw on one SATA ribbon can cause the PSU to shut down. **Also, be very careful about "hot plugging" the XD5 tach sensor into the Commander or anything else, even when in the 24 pin jumper power state. There were a lot of blown XD5 and Commanders early on, although it hasn't come up in a while. Hopefully that means things were strengthened, but I still suggest not doing for the pump.
  14. If you wanted to match ML-Elite from the AIO, you would get the SP-Elite for the case fan positions. It is a RGB match to ML-Elite and both are 8 center hub LED fans. However, if you like the QL you should get them. It is a unique fan and the side cut RGB ring adds a distinctive look. I don't even recognize my build without them. It's really hard to give you an expected temperature range for the 5900X without having one on hand, but also because there are so many other factors that come into this. Your room temp, case temp, voltage, BIOS power settings, and your spin in the silicon lottery will all have more impact on your CPU temp than the fan choice. However, if this is mostly for gaming where the CPU load is going be under 150W (or much lower) all the time, the fan choice has even less impact on the final CPU temp. At less than 150W you likely see zero measurable difference. You should get the QL without reservations.
  15. For a 5900x at say 200W on a 360mm? Probably about 0.5C in coolant temp which then elevates the CPU temp by the same amount. Round up and lets call it 1 degree difference. For comparison purposes, this afternoon I took of my QL and put 6 ML-RGB on a pair of 38mm radiators with a more dense fin pattern. After about 2 hours I can't tell if there is a difference or not with a variable 375-425W load shared between the two radiators. Unless you run CPU renders or professional software loads all day long, you won't see that kind of sustained wattage. Getting heat out of the coolant is usually not the limitation. On all Ryzen (and Intel) you are going to be voltage/CPU temp limited. The radiator and fans are a small part in that. If the CPU is too hot, you will need to adjust voltage or power settings, not swap fans.
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