GvsAnubis Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Don't accept that answer, it is NOT "OK" for an SSD to decrease to one-third of the advertised write-speed when it's filled about 50%. I bought this drive because of the superior performance it was supposed to offer. In my case, I got an RMA approval from the original retailer where I bought it. They were unable (read: unwilling) to offer an advance replacement, but I came to an agreement where I ordered and paid for a Samsung 980 Pro first, and then they will credit me for the Corsair Force MP600. So basically I'm exchanging the Force MP600 for a Samsung 980 Pro. I don't trust Corsair with storage solutions after this so better stick with a tried-and-true manufacturer. Thinking of switching to SanDisk or WD - they have almost the same or superior speeds! But at first I want either a statement or a solution from Corsair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goucha Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) Understood. Please work with our support team at https://help.corsair.com So i've read the entire thread. I'm another customer with problems, that's why i searched for problems and got this thread. TESTS WITH V6 and V7 My M.2 is far away of what corsair announce. What can i expect from Corsair? Will you send me a new unit and i send this one? Motherboard: X299 MSI Carbon Pro A/C CPU: 7820x Memory brand: Vengeance Memory model: LPX Memory capacity: 56Gb Memory speed: 3000Mhz CL15 BIOS Version: Last one Windows Build and Version: Windows 10.0.19042 MP600 capacity: 1TB MP600 serial number (a photo of the sticker would be great): Photo Down Here MP600 Firmware Version: EGFM11.3 Using drive as OS or storage? OS Which M.2 slot? Tryed both, same results. Stock heatsink on MP600? Stock M.2 Slot 1 with V7 M.2 Slot 2 with V6 M.2 Slot 1 with V6 THIS IS MY EVO DRIVE THAT GOES FASTER READ!!!! Edited October 24, 2020 by Goucha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chjohans Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 @Goucha, your speed is pretty much what you can expect. You don't have a PCIe 4.0 compatible motherboard so you will not be able to use the Force MP600 to its full potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLSTARR Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 @Goucha, your speed is pretty much what you can expect. You don't have a PCIe 4.0 compatible motherboard so you will not be able to use the Force MP600 to its full potential. U got luck ^^ u got better speeds then people who have PCI-e 4.0 ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KU Kitch Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) Hi, found this thread as well as I'm having some issues with performance (against what I'd expect). Motherboard: Aorus Pro Wifi X570-I CPU: 3950x Memory brand: Corsair Memory model: Vengeance LPX Memory capacity: 32GB Memory speed: CL16 BIOS Version: F30 Windows Build and Version: Win 10 Pro 64 bit (2004) MP600 capacity: 1TB MP600 serial number (a photo of the sticker would be great): MP600 Firmware Version: 11.3 Using drive as OS or storage? OS Which M.2 slot: Main slot Stock heatsink on MP600: No If no, what are you using for a heatsink? Chipset fan Edit: I’m stupid, completely forgot that I’d set PCIE to 3.0 in the BIOS - switching that back to auto corrected the speeds back to what one would expect. Now we’ll just have to see whether that operates stably or not Edited November 1, 2020 by KU Kitch Update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zvi8875 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) The same issue like all the other folks here, sadly it looks when the drive is around or above 50%, the write speeds get from 4-5k to 1k, that's unacceptable behavior and we as customers should have zero tolerance for accepting this, either allow folks get their money back or fix this, this is a global issue and there's no a SINGLE person that doesn't face this issue, so please don't put the blame on the customer in any way. Motherboard: x570 TUF gaming wifi CPU: 3700x Memory brand: G.skill Memory model: Trident Z RGB Memory capacity: 32GB Memory speed: 3600 / PC4 28800 BIOS Version: 2802 Windows Build and Version: Win 10 Pro 64 bit (2004) MP600 Capacity: 1TB MP600 Firmware Version: 11.3 Using drive as OS or storage? OS Which M.2 slot: Main slot Stock heatsink on MP600: Yes Above 50% (or around it e.g. 46-49%): - Writing at 1k speeds Below the above: - Writing at 4.2k speed. What I tested and my settings so far? - CDM with highest test counts (9) test size @ 32 - BIOS default settings + PCI-E m.2 on gen 4 to ensure Mobo doesn't switch weirdly to anything else. - Power plan on highest performance - also quick startup disabled as recommended (didn't help ofc). - Switched to other m.2 slot - didn't help ofc. - Clean OS and then refill of the same above 50% - same issue. - Testing without any side apps by running safe mode - didn't help, ofc. - Disconnecting other SSDs, leaving this alone - didn't help, ofc. - Making sure everything is up to date, firmware, BIOS, OS, everything related - didn't help, ofc. So to me, after reading this thread, I'm in a position that I see no clear resolution, people have been calling out for help for over a year, and we the customers are the suckers here it seems, I have no willing into getting a replacement if I'll face the same issue and your legal excuse of "SSD degrades by the time" is BS, a simple test would be to fill it up above 50% and prove the point again and again. What's the solution here folks? Are you going to keep darg everyone's feet for any longer or allow anyone who's owning this to return this for a full refund? Edit: After more continuous testing, even at 30% usage of the disk, the performance is about 1k writing speed. temperatures are OK as-well, just looks like a complete fault device. I did notice on page 7 of this post that someone received a new RMA package (which is a yellow package instead of normal white like mine) and the performance seems to be better. I did create an RMA ticket (#2003692199) about this, hope to receive a replacement, to begin with, or even a full refund if possible. Edited November 1, 2020 by zvi8875 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimc_LT Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 New FW 13 available, didnt give advertised speed also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardstheticz Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 (edited) Cross-posting this in threads as a warning. Whatever you do, do NOT update your firmware. Please note that I have even decreased my storage utilization between the two tests in a manner that should have had a positive effect. WTF Edited November 8, 2020 by beardstheticz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimc_LT Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Also I have stupid idea that the speed issue is somehow related to if its windows drive(c bootable) or storage drive. Because i lose speed on windows but not on storage (i have 2 same drives) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnWayne78 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Also I have stupid idea that the speed issue is somehow related to if its windows drive(c bootable) or storage drive. Because i lose speed on windows but not on storage (i have 2 same drives) yes same to me. I installed additional drive (WD SN750) Cloned the MP510 and now i am using WD 750 as System drive. The Corsair, which was poor of data transfer is now good. Strange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chjohans Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 yes same to me. I installed additional drive (WD SN750) Cloned the MP510 and now i am using WD 750 as System drive. The Corsair, which was poor of data transfer is now good. Strange The same thing happened to me. I changed my slow MP600 for a Samsung 980 Pro, and when using the MP600 as a data drive only the speed is consistent "as advertised" or very close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimc_LT Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Hi, some news from me. I changed CPU from 3700x to 5950x and strangely all my drives (2 of MP600) now have advertised speed at moment (no windows reinstall). It might be CPU problem maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssd-tester Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Same Problem here with ATTO and CDM. AS SSD seems normal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmbooker Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Mine doing same am only at 40% capacity. I have a 3900x on a CH8 x570 MoBo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPBonzo Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 So are you saying that after updating the firmware to v13 on OS and data drives you're only seeing a performance drop on the system\OS partition? I have three MP600s in my system - a single drive used for the OS and two drives configured as a Storage Space (no resilience). As the SSD Toolbox is unable to update the firmware on the drives used for the Storage Space I've only being able to upgrade to v13 on my system drive and that's when the performance drop was noted. I've received a replacement drive through the RMA process but this too suffered from poor write performance despite being delivered with v11.3 on it. I'm baffled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanDusaster Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) I have two MP600s both on 11.3 still, did an ASSSD run on each sequentially. Boot (C ) drive is about 1/4 full: Data drive is about 4/5ths full - Read access time is worse, otherwise all looks within margin of error, so this capacity/write speed issue someone reported is a bizarre one - motherboard related maybe? Edit - CDM comparison, full drive certainly hurt random writes, but sequential not at all. Edited December 11, 2020 by VanDusaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanDusaster Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Incidentally I turned off write cacheing & gave CDM a run again - no difference in performance between the drives ( although the actual write performance is understandably ... challenged ). I have very little idea about how to tune Windows write cacheing & if it defaults to different numbers across installs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamD Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Running the latest firmware (13.0). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionVibez Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 This is what I get on 11.3 on a 1TB MP 600 I think I'm going to wait before going up to 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeman Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) Im also having a slow MP600. and i tryed all.. 25 % space used, and same numbers if i format it to 0 % update bios. update chipset driver. update windows,power settings all set to no powersaving. Csm disabled. any advice before rma maybe? MSI MEG X570 UNIFY AMD Ryzen 7 2700X G.Skill 32,0GB Dual-Channel 1599MHz (16-18-18-38) NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 OC SAMSUNG MZVLW512HMJP-000L2 512 GB Force MP600 1 TB Win 10 pro 64 bit Edited December 14, 2020 by Weeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimc_LT Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) Its easy task for You, Your CPU AMD Ryzen 7 2700X is not supporting PCIE 4.0. You need Ryzen 3'd or newer gen CPU like Ryzen 3***X or Ryzen 5****X Edited December 17, 2020 by Rimc_LT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CusmaR Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 (edited) I've also run into this problem... When it was new I got full speed (write 4432MB/s). I did a random test yesterday since I thought a file was unpacking very slow, lo and behold, happy holidays to me, the drive suck. I've updated to latest firmware (didn't help), deactivated and reactivated write cache, also ran the command a few pages back that fills the drive then trims. Didn't help.. Is there a fix on the way? edit: Thought my specs would show automatically. CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 Mobo: Asus B550-F Gaming HDD: Corsair Force MP600 1 TB edit2: found the PDF, I did all three steps, didn't help. Edited December 26, 2020 by CusmaR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanDomas Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 (edited) Hello everybody, have the same problem... Motherboard: MSI MEG X570 ACE CPU: Ryzen 9 3900X Memory Brand: Corsair Memory Model: Dominator Platinum RGB Memory Capacity: 32GB Memory Speed: CL18 BIOS Version: 7C35v1C Windows Build and Version: Win 10 Pro 64 bit (2004) MP600 Capacity: 2TB MP600 Serial Number (Look at RMA Request): MP600 Firmware Version: 11.3 Using drive as OS or storage? OS and Steam Which M.2 slot: First Slot Stock heatsink on MP600: No If no, what are you using for a heatsink? Chipset - The SSD is 50% full. - If I run the benchmark, the write performance rose up to 4200MB/s for about 1 second and then they dropped down to about 980MB/s. - The larger the file during the test, the worse the write values will be. You can see it at the AS SSD benchmark. - The WDSN750 in the system runs without problems. - Windows Trim function has no effect. - Sometimes the write performance is for one or two benchmarks alright. - I made a request for this at Corsair on January 5th, 21st. No feedback so far. - What is meant with "Number of Error Information Log Entries" in the S.M.A.R.T. values? 04102020: 04012021: (Full Information) Edited January 8, 2021 by FanDomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddobowen Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Hi all, I'm also having the same challenges. I only built my PC in Sept, so would have expected to have one of the more recent batches of the drive. I've updated the drive's firmware as shown below - Motherboard: MSI MEG X570 UNIFY ATX AM4 Processor: AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT 3.8 GHz 12-Core Memory: 2 sets of Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory GPU: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING HD1: Corsair MP600 Force Series Gen4 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive HD2: Crucial MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive HD3: Seagate Momentus 750 GB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive PSU: EVGA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01elch Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Hi folks, also updated to 13.0 now - all running ok so far: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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