650D: 140mm radiators?

Jabberwocky · July 11, 2011

I'm considering buying a 650D case and implementing a single and dual 140mm radiator loop in the case top. To that end:

Is it possible to mount a 140mm single radiator in place of the standard 120mm fan? If so, does it require a mod? The radiator in question is the Black Ice GT Stealth 140, which is only 31.30mm thick.

Is it also possible do use a push-pull configuration on the top for a dual 140 radiator if the radiator is again 31.30 mm thick (Black Ice GT Stealth 280)?

I graciously thank you for your (helpful) responses.

Rognin · July 11, 2011

You can put a 140.2 rad on the top part of the case. But you might interferre with the sata 3.0 hotswap on the 650D. I just took it out seen as I never will use it. If you want to keep it there, then you might want to put your fans against the top of the case and mount the rad to them (will give you some clearance for the sata bay). I use the exact same rad in my build. As for the push pull config on this rad, unless you mount the fans outside the case and get rid of the sata 3.0 bay, it won't fit. You have a little under 80mm clearance between the top of the case and the mobo. Hence the 31.3+25+25= 81.3mm to clear with a push pull. You'll be hitting some Northbridge heat sinks and maybe your ram clips (depending on mobo).

Here is a pick of my setup as of right now (though it'll change as soon as Corsair takes out the mesh side panel to mount four 120mm fans)

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p61/Numbskullius/IMG_02281.jpg

As for the rear 140.1, I have the black ice stealth 120.1 rad on the rear, and the clearance is pretty tight, I'd go as far as to say that, no, it won't fit. UNLESS you fit the fan on the outside of the case. They put a convenient little hole on the top right side of the case to pass your fan cable with the rear cable routing. You'll also have to drill your own holes to mount the rad and fan.

Regards,

-Rog

Jabberwocky · July 12, 2011

@Rognin :

Thanks, that's very helpful. In fact it gave me the idea below; what do you think?

Rognin · July 12, 2011

That won't work. Even if you put one of the rads and two fans outside the case. I have a 200mm Phobya Xtreme on the front intake, and the 140.2 and 120.1 as exhaust. When folding it would heat up too much (front intake with 200mm rad would just heat eh two other rads). So one of those 140.2's would get extra heat ( most probably the top one).

Best bet is to stick to the 120.1 on the rear and a 140.2 on the top. Use high static pressure fans (GT's, NB's or CM Excalibur's). If you're only cooling the CPU, you have more than enough.

Rognin · July 12, 2011

Are you thinking of fitting two rads and 4 fans inside the case?!

If so there's only space for a 30mm thick rad and one set of 25mm fans. No way that fits in a 650D. Look at the picture of my case and look how much clearance you have after one rad and fans. You'll hit the top North Bridge heat sink and Ram clips before you can even get all that in. Forget 2 rads for the top.

If you want more rads get a Phobya 200mm rad for the front intake. Invers the fans so they are all dishing heat inside the case. Get the 650D mesh panel that;s coming out and mout 4 high cfm 120mm fans to it as exhaust. It's as good as this case gets, though enough to cool on CPU and 3 GPU's... =P

ctguy1955 · August 3, 2014

Are you thinking of fitting two rads and 4 fans inside the case?!

If so there's only space for a 30mm thick rad and one set of 25mm fans. No way that fits in a 650D. Look at the picture of my case and look how much clearance you have after one rad and fans. You'll hit the top North Bridge heat sink and Ram clips before you can even get all that in. Forget 2 rads for the top.

If you want more rads get a Phobya 200mm rad for the front intake. Invers the fans so they are all dishing heat inside the case. Get the 650D mesh panel that;s coming out and mout 4 high cfm 120mm fans to it as exhaust. It's as good as this case gets, though enough to cool on CPU and 3 GPU's... =P

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While I know enough to build my own rigs, I have not ever done a WC loop before.

Im 59 years old and would like to be able to WC my CPU and New MB for now.

the Asus VII Formula has a in and out for WC and Copper on the inside.

I dont understand the mixing of components and the names of the new

materials so I want to make sure I get the right parts so as to not have

to add anything but boiled distilled water and no corrosive additives if possible.

The tubing should be 1/2" inside diameter or what do you suggest ????

My MB only has G 1/4" Threads..... So does that cause a bottle neck using larger hose ???

I was wondering if you could please help me to decide what parts to get

for my setup. I am going to take out the H00i Rad and pump and sell them.

The H100i as it sits right now, has very little clearance to install the mb, but it can be done as long as you install the CPU power before you screw the

MB into the case.

The choice of a new Rad and Fans needs to be the same or smaller in height then what is in there now:

The H100i Radiator Dimensions 120mm x 275mm x 27mm

Fan Dimensions 120mm x 120mm x 25mm

I would like to do the same thing where Im using the large fan on top

of the case to blow upwards, then have a Rad, then two fans underneath

for a push/pull config.

I would like to have a Rad for the large front fan and a fan on the other side

for a push/pull config.

So the two rads and three fans advice is needed.

Then I need a pump and a Reservoir. I have lots of room in my case.

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae168/CTguy1955/VIIFormula_zps709aaeb3.jpg

A CPU Heatsink and tubing and fittings. I have only 300 to spend, so I will have to wait to buy the waterblocks for my 2 GTX 680's.

So Im hoping with your knowledge you can advise me on the products to buy, knowing that eventually I would do the two GPU's as well.

Right now, I only need to do the MB and the CPU. So with only having 300 to spend, You may suggest only buying the top rad and two fans

and not the front of the case one.

Thank You so much for the Help

wytnyt · August 3, 2014

as mentioned in your other thread

you cannot get 2 rads,block,pump/res/tubing,fittings for 300

even if it were possible,quality would be in the gutter

browse the stores to get an idea

for instance

my parts were

ex-pmp-252 EK D5 X-RES Top 140 w/ D5 Vario Pump (EK-D5 Vario X-RES 140 (incl. pump)) 1 $149.99 $149.99

ex-rad-373 Alphacool NexXxoS ST30 Full Copper Slim Profile Dual 120mm Radiator 1 $52.99 $52.99

ele-226 PVC Rubber Grommet - 0.625" I.D. Hole 2 $0.50 $1.00

ex-tub-2565 PrimoChilll 1/2" OD Rigid Revolver Coupler Diamond Knurled Fitting - Single - Anodized Blue 1 $10.95 $10.95

ex-vga-32 EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Backplate (100-PB-2780-B9) 1 $19.99 $19.99

ex-tub-2120 PrimoChilll 1/2" OD Rigid Tubing Bending Kit 1 $12.99 $12.99

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ex-tub-160 FrozenCPU Lighted Crystal LED Plug - Blue - (3 Pin) 2 $5.99 $11.98

ex-tub-2082 Monsoon .999 Fine Silver Bullet Antimicrobial G 1/4 Plug - Blue (MON-PLUG-AG-BL) 1 $5.95 $5.95

ex-tub-620 Bitspower G 1/4" Temperature Sensor Stop Fitting - Matte Black (BP-MBWP-CT) 1 $10.95 $10.95

bus-380 Phobya G1/4" Temperature Sensor with C/F Display - (71177) 1 $24.99 $24.99

ex-blc-971 XSPC RayStorm High Performance Acetal CPU Liquid Cooling Block - Intel (Sockets LGA 115x / 1366 / 2011) 1 $62.99 $62.99

ex-tub-1837 XSPC G1/4" 3-Way T Adapter - Chrome 2 $6.99 $13.98

ex-tub-1820 Primochill Fillport/Pass Thru Connector - Brass Nickel Plated 1 $9.99 $9.99

ex-rad-88 Black Ice GT Stealth 360 Radiator - Black 1 $69.95 $69.95

ex-vga-36 EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Hydro Copper Waterblock (400-CU-G780-B1) 1 $154.99 $154.99

ex-tub-1246 Alphacool G1/4 90° Double Rotary Fitting Adapter Male to Female - Deep Black 1 $8.99 $8.99

ex-tub-442 Bitspower G 1/4" Temperature Sensor Stop Fitting (BP-WTP-CT) 2 $9.95 $19.90

ex-tub-675 Bitspower G1/4 Thread 3/8" ID x 1/2" OD 90-Degree Rotary Compression Fitting - Matte Black (BP-MB90R2LCPF-CC2) 2 $18.99 $37.98