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Old 05-06-2017, 06:09 PM
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Thumbs up SIV 5.19 Beta-24 is now there

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its much lower than CL4 was.
Thank you, after a two line change SIV 5.19 Beta-24 should report three more voltages.

Looking at [STC Info] I can see SIV is running well. I feel 1.07% of a CPU (0.27% of the system) is OK and wonder when CL4 will be improved to use similar, I suspect I can guess.

Now you have SIV working I am wondering if you would like to post to http://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137428 to give others an idea what is involved. I suspect some may think it's harder to use SIV than it actually is, maybe this is just my wishful thinking though.


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Thank you, after a two line change SIV 5.19 Beta-24 should report three more voltages.

Looking at [STC Info] I can see SIV is running well. I feel 1.07% of a CPU (0.27% of the system) is OK and wonder when CL4 will be improved to use similar, I suspect I can guess.

Now you have SIV working I am wondering if you would like to post to http://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137428 to give others an idea what is involved. I suspect some may think it's harder to use SIV than it actually is, maybe this is just my wishful thinking though.
I posted my testimonial over there


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Why don't you just get a 7 inch HD HDMI LCD Display Screen or a 12 inch HD Color HDMI TFT LCD Display Screen and extend your desktop to it?

I suspect answering this may cause me to spend £75
i'm sure 480x800 would be more than enough ...
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i'm sure 480x800 would be more than enough ...
SIV will use whatever you tell it to.

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Thank you, after a two line change SIV 5.19 Beta-24 should report three more voltages.

Looking at [STC Info] I can see SIV is running well. I feel 1.07% of a CPU (0.27% of the system) is OK and wonder when CL4 will be improved to use similar, I suspect I can guess.

Now you have SIV working I am wondering if you would like to post to http://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137428 to give others an idea what is involved. I suspect some may think it's harder to use SIV than it actually is, maybe this is just my wishful thinking though.
Hi!
I'm using your great program too. Thank you very much for that great contribution. I have a question, everything is working perfectly but it's normal the use of 4.34% a CPU? This is STC Info:
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Old 05-07-2017, 09:52 AM
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Idea If you have EC sensors yes

Welcome to the forum, I wonder how many others have quietly migrated from CL4 to SIV.

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Is it normal to use of 4.34% of a CPU?
It depends on the motherboard and for ASUS motherboards that have EC (Embedded Controller) sensors such as your Z270E then this is expected. There can more dramatic effects as below if you don't expunge all the ASUS software as ASUS fail to use the Global\Access_EC named Mutex to interlock EC access.

To confirm this you could start SIV and specify -NOECR to tell SIV not to report the EC sensors, see [About].

Reporting EC sensors is rather harder than the Nuvoton NCT6793D. I would like to reduce the CPU time SIV uses to report EC sensors, maybe one day I will get access to the ASUS EC sensor datasheet and be able to do this.

BTW your DDR4 @ 2.13GHz seems slow, have you enabled XMP in the BIOS? Post [SPD].
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Old 05-07-2017, 12:43 PM
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Welcome to the forum, I wonder how many others have quietly migrated from CL4 to SIV.



It depends on the motherboard and for ASUS motherboards that have EC (Embedded Controller) sensors such as your Z270E then this is expected. There can more dramatic effects as below if you don't expunge all the ASUS software as ASUS fail to use the Global\Access_EC named Mutex to interlock EC access.

To confirm this you could start SIV and specify -NOECR to tell SIV not to report the EC sensors, see [About].

Reporting EC sensors is rather harder than the Nuvoton NCT6793D. I would like to reduce the CPU time SIV uses to report EC sensors, maybe one day I will get access to the ASUS EC sensor datasheet and be able to do this.

BTW your DDR4 @ 2.13GHz seems slow, have you enabled XMP in the BIOS? Post [SPD].
Thanks for your reply and sorry for the size of the image (I'm a newbie in the forum). About CL4 and SIV, is very clear to me I think it would be more if people knew their program. The CL4 it is a little versatile program, overly restrictive and overload a lot The CPU. I think engineers have a lot of work. But thanks to his program we have a safe and stable alternative.

Make the changes and the result is 0.92% (right now it's 0.50%). And I have enable XMP in the Bios, my SPD summary is attach.
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Old 05-08-2017, 01:54 AM
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Hello, I have a problem when using SIV to control my corsair AIO CPU water cooler. When SIV is running, all of my HDDs (totally 8) will not spin down and go into standby mode. It increased the power usage when they are spinning, also generating heat to my system.
Is there any tutorial guide or option in SIV that can prevent SIV affecting HDD activity? Thanks.


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Old 05-08-2017, 03:21 AM
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Arrow Setup the Minimum SMART polling interval to enable Drives to Spin Down

  1. When SIV starts then all the drives will spin up so that SIV can read their information.
  2. You need to set the Minimum SMART for each drive via the [Disk Status] (Menu->Hardware->Disk Status) panel to allow Disk Drives to spin down.
  3. Once set [Disk Status] will show the Skip Delta counting down to when the drives will next be polled and thus spin up.
  4. Below you can see I set a 1 hour Minimum SMART for my Seagate ST9500325AS (6VEFKTLT) and the time counting down, also note the lower Polled Count.


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Old 05-08-2017, 04:14 AM
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Woah! I addressed this a long time ago

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When SIV is running, all of my HDDs (totally 8) will not spin down and go into standby mode.
This issue was addressed in SIV Version 4.46 released on 14-Jul-2014 in which I added the per drive Minimum SMART polling interval.
  1. I am more likely to help those who use http://forum.corsair.com/forums/profile.php?do=extra to add their PC specs to their profiles, especially those who specify the W10 build number .
  2. If you have any issues getting this to work you should to post the above two + [SMART] panels from your system in addition to describing the issue.
  3. Note: remember to press [Save].
  4. I also mentioned this in http://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?p=850327 + http://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?p=891460 + http://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?p=863553.
  5. I have just added point 26.
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  • 26. SIV has the per Drive Minimum SMART setting that can be set to defer the SMART polling and allow Disk Drives to spin down. CL does not.

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Old 05-08-2017, 05:36 AM
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Thanks for the quick reply, appreciated. :-)
The quick fix from jdwells619 is what I was using for countering HDD spin up issue of CL before. (The only google result which related to my search.)
http://forum.corsair.com/forums/show...6&postcount=18
Now I can get rid of CL and its high cpu usage.
And, point 25 is what I was looking for when entering this post. It is convenient for users who own many HDDs in their system like me.

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Make the changes and the result is 0.92% (right now it's 0.50%).
  1. Looking at [ SPD Summary ] I can see the DIMMs are 2.13 GHz DIMMs, I had guessed they would be faster.
  2. With -NOECR it's your choice, if you can live without the EC sensors then you specify -NOECR .
  3. The % reported by [STC Info] includes the SIV start-up time so will drop the longer SIV has been running.
  4. As the SIV usage is quite low having [STC Info] active will have a noticeable effect on the SIV % CPU usage.
  5. I just can't see why CL 4.6.0.86 uses as much CPU time as it does.

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Old 05-08-2017, 05:51 AM
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Cool Welcome to the world of low CPU overhead and flexibility

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Now I can get rid of CL and its high cpu usage.
And, point 25 is what I was looking for when entering this post. It is convenient for users who own many HDDs in their system like me.
Welcome to the world of low CPU overhead and flexibility .

I am happy to hear to can now get SIV to do what you wish. I would be interested to see how all the disks are connected, please post the [SMART] panel.

With the user guide it's hard to know how much to include, too much and users won't bother to read it. I have also scattered a few links to my new post about Minimum SMART.

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Welcome to the world of low CPU overhead and flexibility .

I am happy to hear to can now get SIV to do what you wish. I would be interested to see how all the disks are connected, please post the [SMART] panel.

With the user guide it's hard to know how much to include, too much and users won't bother to read it. I have also scattered a few links to my new post about Minimum SMART.
I turned down my HD SMART intervals to 1.5 hours based on the stuff I was seeing in this thread, but I cant figure out all this "point 25" business. I'm out of the loop.


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  1. Looking at [ SPD Summary ] I can see the DIMMs are 2.13 GHz DIMMs, I had guessed they would be faster.
  2. With -NOECR it's your choice, if you can live without the EC sensors then you specify -NOECR .
  3. The % reported by [STC Info] includes the SIV start-up time so will drop the longer SIV has been running.
  4. As the SIV usage is quite low having [STC Info] active will have a noticeable effect on the SIV % CPU usage.
  5. I just can't see why CL 4.6.0.86 uses as much CPU time as it does.
Thank you very much for your support and giving the option to use this great program. Congratulations on your great work.


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