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Old 01-14-2020, 06:22 AM
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Thanks for the support guys - much appreciated.

I am very happy with the white interior too. My current dilemma is I've noticed it obviously shows every speck of dirt. This won't be an issue once its all assembled and sealed of course, but in this "construction zone" that I'm in now, I'm thinking I should probably give it a clear sealing coat. Easy enough to do now as nothing is screwed into the case yet. More food for thought !

I wasn't sure whether the teardown would be worth it, but now I see it nearly done I'm very happy with it.

I've measured the cable runs and ordered my cable kit from Cablemod. (Shout out to their support team too - my new ASUS mobo had a Cablemod discount voucher in it which didn't work when I keyed it in at checkout, but their support team were right onto it and got it sorted for me over a weekend - thanks Joe!) Not sure how long that will take to get here, could be 3 or 4 weeks as they are now in their yearly housekeeping slow period - although my order did apparently land in time not to be affected - time will tell.

Now trying to source the Ryzen 3950X CPU that I want. My usual supplier of all things PC is now OOS of them indefinitely so I'm scrounging around. Found a couple of other retailers here in Aus who claim they have some in stock. Will try one out tomorrow.

Had a scare a few days ago - my daily drive PC is now on its last legs. Suddenly all 4 USB3 ports on the rear are busted. Started looking at a quick mobo swap on that just to get me through the few weeks I reckon I have left on this new build, but its an X79 / DDR3 board and trying to get them these days is not fun. Have also lost access to my work area at home where I had the new beast set up (the Mrs wanted the real estate in the back room back !!) so now have to find somewhere new to set up a build area. I have a big house and there's only 2 of us here so you'd think there'd be plenty of room, but apparently - No. Anyway, that problem ain't gonna get solved here !!!

I take your point about the ML PRO fans too flash. I have 5 of them on my daily drive (with an AIO) and I love them - and can't hear them at all. Budget is getting tight now though so can always swap out to MLs down the track as I already have the LLs that came in the case plus some others I bought.
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Old 01-16-2020, 10:26 PM
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The latest care package arrived today - from the good folks at Cablemod !!
A little disappointed I didn't get the nice Cablemod box, but in the interests of keeping shipping costs down to an affordable level, I can understand why bubble wrap is the preferred outer !!



- Red cables are the 24-pin and dual EATX connectors.
- Green for the nVidia graphics card. With gold combs in a nod to the Australian sporting colours
- RGB cables for the SATA and Molex utility cabling for the Corsair lightshow and cooling devices. Yes these should be completely invisible in the end result behind behind the mobo tray, but I don't care - that's for my amusement !

And a couple of packs of anodized thumbscrews to tidy up some of the mounting points around the pump/res and other areas.

Due to a mess-up at my work, they've decided not to pay me for January so while that gets sorted out I have to pause the buying of the last few parts I need to complete this:
- CPU (Ryzen 3950X)
- PSU (may be able to swing a spare into play, but not sure yet)
- RAM
- M.2 drives

Luckily I still have all of the tube bending and fitting to do so that will keep me busy for a while.
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Old 03-15-2020, 04:27 AM
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Apologies for the lack of updates here recently, this project has been packed away in a box for the last few weeks due to me getting kicked out of my work room at home !

I've found a new workplace now so am about to pick this up again. Also, with our impending holiday on a cruise liner just cancelled to to this world Corona silliness I find myself with time to fill again !

I also decided, once I saw the White QL fans announced, that these would sit very nicely in my white-interior 500D case, so I've just ordered a pack of 3 of those.

This will make the internal plumbing even tighter now as I was only planning fans on the outside of my front 360, now I want push pull, with the QLs on the interior as well.

It will be worth it.
I know it will.
I just have to keep saying that enough times and eventually I will believe it !
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Old 03-24-2020, 10:09 PM
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Sooooo, this COVID nonsense is really slowing things down !

Turns out I went too early in ordering the pack of 3 white QL fans - they have evaporated in Australia. So I've turned that order into 3 white LL fans and I'll go with them for now. I can upgrade to QL down the track. Still waiting on delivery of that fan pack though - things have really slowed down here. Good thing I'm not in a hurry !

Have also just rechecked wiring for the internals and discovered I need a fan hub now. Adding in 3 more fans has pushed me past the capabilities of the single CoPro. I now have 9 fans to manage and conventional wisdom suggests no more than 8 per CoPro so I have ordered a fan hub. I really don't want to mess with fan splitters anyway, I'd rather have a separately powered device and know I have headroom.

Cause and effect - that fan hub of course needs SATA power so I now don't have enough SATA doo-hickeys on the cables I ordered from Cablemod weeks ago. I can re-order new SATA cables from Cablemod or just stick with the plain ones that will come when I order my new PSU. Since these cables will all be totally invisible behind the mobo I'm tempted to just go with a plain one from the PSU pack. Mind you I still haven't done a test cable run using the main cables so when I do that I may find an error that needs correcting. If so and that necessitates another order, then I can add the new SATA port into that.

By the time this all finishes the next gen Ryzen CPU will be out - lol !!!!
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Old 03-27-2020, 07:16 PM
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Woke up this morning to the realisation that the white LL fans are NOT an appropriate substitute for the QLs I originally wanted. I've remembered that the light show on the LL series is only visible on the intake side, and I have them mounted as Pull on the inside of the rad, thus with the exhaust side facing inside the case and the front light show side buried hard up against the rad.

Now I'm back to either QLs (and an uncertain delivery timeframe) or see if I can find some MLs in White (and an uncertain existence!)

First world problems :-)
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Old 03-29-2020, 12:52 AM
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So with purchasing in a bit of a lull at the moment as I scour the planet for some White QL fans, I'm turning my attention to the significant tube bending task I have ahead of me that I have been avoiding for ages.

I found this nice little tube bending jig online today, but seems its not actually available to buy anymore.


So I've decided to make my own, in a far more amateurish fashion. My thinking is to knock up a very simple piece of wood with a couple of appropriate width "channels" on it that are at a very close to perfect 90 degree angle. Hopefully this will help me get some consistency around my bends. My guess is that the majority that I will want are going to be 90 degrees. Any variances from that I can deal with at the end.

This will help me fill in the time while I source QL fans. I have also realised that once I have built this thing, "simply swapping" the 3 front fans from LL to QL will be anything but "simple". I will have to drain and disassemble the majority of my loop to do that so I am going to wait until I've sourced the QLs from somewhere.

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Old 03-29-2020, 03:48 AM
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Excitement :-)

Just sourced a couple of radiators that I think will suit better than what I currently have.

Slim profile (30mm) and White.

The slim profile will help me with what is going to be a very tight build and the white is going to sit much better inside the case.

Obviously there will be a slight cooling hit going with a slimmer rad, but I am pretty sure I have capacity to cover that and the small space I will get should more than make up for it.

I hope !
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Old 03-29-2020, 06:03 PM
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OK, So my current Corsair rads are also 30mm thick so I'm not gaining any room with the new ones I found, but I am gaining White :-)
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Old 03-31-2020, 06:13 PM
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Fun fact:

Visited the hardware store a couple of days ago to pick up the bits to make my tube bending jig, and now due to the Corona silliness, we have to queue to get in !!!!

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Old 04-08-2020, 04:41 AM
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OK, So.............

This build just went in a whole different direction, and this will no doubt polarise my followers, and so I apologise to those who do not approve.

I have just ordered this......



My issue with my current plan is that it has stalled. I have been wracking my brain for the last few weeks trying to find a way forward that doesn't involve getting QL fans in White, and I just can't do it. The 500D case that I have lovingly painted White looks really good, I am extremely happy with it. I seriously believe that it needs white QLs on the inside in order to give it the lighting that I think it deserves. And try as I might I cannot source white QLs from anywhere due firstly to me being in Australia where we are at the bottom of Corsair's supply chain anyway and always weeks, sometime months behind when everyone else can get stock. Plus, with the current COVID nonsense going on that has absolutely dried up supply of all kind of product. I spent hours this afternoon visiting every store, in Australia, New Zealand and Singapore that are listed on Corsair's European site as being approved resellers for the Oceania part of the world and not one single store had any stock of white QL fans.

Getting desperate last week I approached Corsair US directly asking if me using a US based drop shipment middle man would allow them to effectively deliver me stock from their US stockpile, but all I got here was "Please try your local resellers", anything else would be cost prohibitive for you.

Ironically, it was while visiting one of the suppliers on Corsair's approved resellers list trying to find white QLs that I caught a glimpse of this radical case from Cougar - and it caught my eye. It is so out there that I love it, in a totally different way to the way I love my beautifully painted 500D which I find very elegant, this Cougar case is like a smack in the face.

The second thing about my 500D build that has been quietly niggling away at me is that I am finding it very very tight to get the look I am after in that case. I have spent the last 6 - 8 weeks going through compromises to try to fit what what I want to into the very tight space in that case. The cold hard reality is that there just isn't room to fit the components that I want to give me the look that I am after.

This new case can easily accommodate an EATX board and it even talks about another size called CUB I think, that I've never heard of, and I assume it is even bigger than EATX, which the case can apparently accommodate.

Now I have to decide what to do with my 500D. I will keep it, since I've spent a lot of effort on it so far, and when this current Supply Chain crisis is over and I can readily source white QLs I will return to that plan - my partner should be ready for a new PC by that time, or I might make it the world's prettiest NAS box. Or it becomes something else. Don't know. Maybe the Cougar case doesn't work out either and I return to my original plan - time will tell !

At least for now, my stall is over, and my design compromises have been addressed and so I can crack on.

This has been a really long road !!
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Old 04-16-2020, 04:40 AM
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OK, So my new monster case arrived today and - Holy Smoke.

Trying to show a sense of scale in the photo so included is my Office chair (A very comfortable Aeron by Herman Miller - gratuitous plug!!). And the measuring tape in front of the box records the box height as 730 cm, or around 29 inches for those of you left on the old money :-)



The "smaller" box on top that was delivered with it is 2 triple packs of QL120 fans so I finally get the QL glory I have been chasing for so long. (I still can't source the white ones I wanted for the 500D case, so that case is gonna sit back in its box now until the white QLs become generally available again.

I now have a veritable library of fans to choose from for this build and I will assemble a shot of them next.
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Old 04-16-2020, 05:01 AM
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Here's the selection of fans I now have to pick from after trying different options for the 500D.



6 x QL120 (possibly on the 360 rad in push/pull at the top of the case).
3 x LL120 (unboxed in the photo because they came already mounted in the 500D)
3 x White LL120 (bought to do push/pull on the 500D on the inside before I realised they don't light the back of the fan!!)
3 x ML120 - can't remember why I bought them !
2 x LL140 - bought to go on the outside of the 280 rad on the top of the 500D. Probably won't use them now as there's apparently no room for a 280 rad on the Conquer-2, only a 240 up front, but I doubt very much I will use that as it will be completely hidden.
And the Lighting Node Pro pack with the 4 strips. Not sure if I will use them.

Will almost certainly put 1 fan at the front of the case, but not sure which one yet - maybe one of the QLs for best effect.

Need to unbox the case now and plan what's gonna go where.

I get the feeling the fans will be less about cooling and more about RGB bling on this case. The open design of the case should make cooling pretty straightforward, but I'm still gonna persist with my liquid solution, but obviously back to the drawing board now re laying it all out.

Am now also planning a small display to go somewhere on the outside of the case showing key cooling measures. I saw a review of this case online where the guy put that in the window at the front of the case and that looked good, but I think I still want an RGB fan there, but as I said, need to get the case out and walk around it for a day or so and plan the next steps.
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Old 04-17-2020, 04:05 AM
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Nice!...Looks like something from a "Transformers" movie set.

How efficient is the design as far as accessing the interior spaces for parts installation?

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Old 04-17-2020, 04:37 AM
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It really does look very Transformers-ish doesn't it !!!

I'm still getting my head around the efficiency of the design.

On the surface, its actually really smart. It has a complete "inner chassis" that you pull out via a big handle on the back and you do your assembly in that. Here's a photo showing the inner chassis pulled out, with my mobo freshly installed.



I say "on the surface" because my interest now is how practical is this going to be from an ongoing maintenance point of view.

Its super easy right now to just pull the inner chassis out and away I go installing mobo, PSU, cooling loop, etc. When I'm done I just roll it back in and do the connections to hook the internal chassis to the main case, which is a set of wires left in the outer chassis at the moment, with things like the connections for the RGB on the front of the case, the power and USB panel on the top, etc - basically this stuff here (looking in through the back of the outer chassis, where the inner chassis will roll back in once fully assembled.



It would be really nice if I could get all those half dozen cables all into one combined connector, something like the ATX 24 pin plug and just snap them all in and out in one hit......., that would really simplify maintenance.

(Thinking now...)
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Old 04-17-2020, 04:47 AM
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Damn. Now I'm thinking how cool would a nice distro plate be for cooling instead of my XD5 Pump/Res?

There is a really nice mounting plate on the floor at the front of the inner chassis that the XD5 should mount on quite easily, or I can use the 120mm mounting plate that came with it and mount it in the fan bays on the right, as I am pretty sure there won't be a rad or fans there. But I kind of like the idea of the distro plate now - I've seen folks do that in the Lian Li PC-011, and also the Corsair 1000D I think.

Damn this build keeps changing .......
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