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j2ee 01-21-2017 04:54 AM

1.4PB write, 1.9PB read for no reason after 3 years of using Corsair Force LS 60GB
 
It is a desktop for my mum. She just uses it to play browser board game for few hours everyday and use skype for HD video talk around 20 minutes a day, for around 3 years so far. I thought the ssd would have very light usage record but ho my god there is 1.4pb write, 1.9 pb read with around 180 days usage in Crystal Info. It is running with Windows 10 64bits. What can I check or do to find out what is going on?

By the way this SSD is a replacement after the original was down within a year. I didn't check if this replacement had no read/write before. It was from an official dealer and they should have send back to Corsair. I got a brand new Corsair Force LS 60GB with a new box (that's why I didn't check because it was in a new box with all new packing).

By the way I don't think a 60GB MLC can even survive with this amount of write data. I believe it is something wrong with how the SSD framework records the read/write data. I have not updated the framework at all.

Toasted 01-21-2017 07:16 AM

You can check disk usage via Resource Monitor. If the stats are fairly normal, It's likely the SMART values that are incorrect.

j2ee 01-22-2017 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toasted (Post 887791)
You can check disk usage via Resource Monitor. If the stats are fairly normal, It's likely the SMART values that are incorrect.

I looked at Resource Monitor and so far everything looks normal. So it could be the SSD framework bug? Update framework may fix it?

Toasted 01-23-2017 06:04 AM

You can give a firmware update a go but i doubt it will reset/resolve the stats. The firmware can be checked using Corsair SSD toolbox.

If you are concerned about the drive, you can put in a support ticket and see what Corsair suggests.
https://corsair.secure.force.com/

j2ee 01-23-2017 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toasted (Post 887972)
You can give a firmware update a go but i doubt it will reset/resolve the stats. The firmware can be checked using Corsair SSD toolbox.

If you are concerned about the drive, you can put in a support ticket and see what Corsair suggests.
https://corsair.secure.force.com/

Just try to upgrade framework but it says it will erase everything then I stop.

Toasted 01-24-2017 06:48 AM

It's up to you whether or not you want to erase the drive to update the firmware. Excluding the values, if the drive is working fine then i would not worry about it. But again, if you are concerned, put in a support ticket with Corsair.

https://corsair.secure.force.com/

red-ray 01-24-2017 07:26 AM

It's possible that Crystal Info is using an inappropriate scaling unit
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by j2ee (Post 887772)
there is 1.4pb write, 1.9 pb read with around 180 days usage in Crystal Info.

It's possible that Crystal Info is using an inappropriate scaling unit. The units the raw value represents differ from maker to maker and I expect it's using a unit size that is far too high.

Below you can see my SSD is 5.10TB + 4.86TB after 1,145 days of use. With OCZ disks the Total LBAs Unit is 1.00GB, but it's possible that Corsair use a different unit and in SIV the current defaults are as below. What does SIV report for your SSD?

You could try asking Corsair support what the scaling unit is for your disk, but I would be rather surprised if they tell you. I know the OCZ firmware engineers so I am 100% sure the OCZ units are 1.00GB.

Quote:

Code:

  dlu = tcsnieql( sdm->dns, TEXT( "SSD-D0"          ),  6 ) ?  9 :    // WDC            - 512
        tcsnieql( sdm->dns, TEXT( "Samsung SSD 840" ), 15 ) ?  9 :    // Samsung SSD 840 - 512
        tcsnieql( sdm->dns, TEXT( "Samsung"        ),  7 ) ? 12 :    // Samsung        -  4KB
        tcsnieql( sdm->dns, TEXT( "OCZ "            ),  4 ) ? 30 :    // OCZ            -  1GB
        tcsnieql( sdm->dns, TEXT( "OCZ-"            ),  4 ) ? 30 :    // OCZ-            -  1GB
                                                              25;    // Default        -  32MB

http://forum.corsair.com/forums/atta...1&d=1485256770http://forum.corsair.com/forums/atta...1&d=1485256487

j2ee 02-03-2017 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-ray (Post 888115)
It's possible that Crystal Info is using an inappropriate scaling unit. The units the raw value represents differ from maker to maker and I expect it's using a unit size that is far too high.

Below you can see my SSD is 5.10TB + 4.86TB after 1,145 days of use. With OCZ disks the Total LBAs Unit is 1.00GB, but it's possible that Corsair use a different unit and in SIV the current defaults are as below. What does SIV report for your SSD?

You could try asking Corsair support what the scaling unit is for your disk, but I would be rather surprised if they tell you. I know the OCZ firmware engineers so I am 100% sure the OCZ units are 1.00GB.

Code:

  dlu = tcsnieql( sdm->dns, TEXT( "SSD-D0"          ),  6 ) ?  9 :    // WDC            - 512
        tcsnieql( sdm->dns, TEXT( "Samsung SSD 840" ), 15 ) ?  9 :    // Samsung SSD 840 - 512
        tcsnieql( sdm->dns, TEXT( "Samsung"        ),  7 ) ? 12 :    // Samsung        -  4KB
        tcsnieql( sdm->dns, TEXT( "OCZ "            ),  4 ) ? 30 :    // OCZ            -  1GB
        tcsnieql( sdm->dns, TEXT( "OCZ-"            ),  4 ) ? 30 :    // OCZ-            -  1GB
                                                              25;    // Default        -  32MB


Thanks for the info. I will test it and show you the result.

j2ee 02-06-2017 08:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by red-ray (Post 888115)
It's possible that Crystal Info is using an inappropriate scaling unit. The units the raw value represents differ from maker to maker and I expect it's using a unit size that is far too high.

Below you can see my SSD is 5.10TB + 4.86TB after 1,145 days of use. With OCZ disks the Total LBAs Unit is 1.00GB, but it's possible that Corsair use a different unit and in SIV the current defaults are as below. What does SIV report for your SSD?

You could try asking Corsair support what the scaling unit is for your disk, but I would be rather surprised if they tell you. I know the OCZ firmware engineers so I am 100% sure the OCZ units are 1.00GB.

Code:

  dlu = tcsnieql( sdm->dns, TEXT( "SSD-D0"          ),  6 ) ?  9 :    // WDC            - 512
        tcsnieql( sdm->dns, TEXT( "Samsung SSD 840" ), 15 ) ?  9 :    // Samsung SSD 840 - 512
        tcsnieql( sdm->dns, TEXT( "Samsung"        ),  7 ) ? 12 :    // Samsung        -  4KB
        tcsnieql( sdm->dns, TEXT( "OCZ "            ),  4 ) ? 30 :    // OCZ            -  1GB
        tcsnieql( sdm->dns, TEXT( "OCZ-"            ),  4 ) ? 30 :    // OCZ-            -  1GB
                                                              25;    // Default        -  32MB


Here is a screenshot but very different from what you got, look like it cannot read this kind of data from this SSD:

j2ee 02-06-2017 09:09 AM

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
CrystalDiskInfo 7.0.5 (C) 2008-2016 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

OS : Windows 10 Professional [10.0 Build 14393] (x64)
Date : 2017/02/06 21:07:49

-- Controller Map ----------------------------------------------------------
- ATA Channel 0 (0) [ATA]
- ATA Channel 1 (1) [ATA]
+ Standard SATA AHCI Controller [ATA]
- HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH24NSB0
- Corsair Force LS SSD
+ Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller [ATA]
- ATA Channel 0 (0)
- ATA Channel 1 (1)
- Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller [SCSI]

-- Disk List ---------------------------------------------------------------
(1) Corsair Force LS SSD : 60.0 GB [0/2/0, pd1] - co

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
(1) Corsair Force LS SSD
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Model : Corsair Force LS SSD
Firmware : S9FM01.7
Serial Number : 14238160000001040214
Disk Size : 60.0 GB (8.4/60.0/60.0/60.0)
Buffer Size : Unknown
Queue Depth : 32
# of Sectors : 117231408
Rotation Rate : ---- (SSD)
Interface : Serial ATA
Major Version : ACS-3
Minor Version : ----
Transfer Mode : SATA/300 | SATA/600
Power On Hours : 4466 hours
Power On Count : 637 count
Host Reads : 1915752 GB
Host Writes : 1442304 GB
Temperature : Unknown
Health Status : Good (100 %)
Features : S.M.A.R.T., APM, 48bit LBA, NCQ, TRIM
APM Level : 0000h [OFF]
AAM Level : ----
Drive Letter : C:

-- S.M.A.R.T. --------------------------------------------------------------
ID Cur Wor Thr RawValues(6) Attribute Name
01 100 100 __0 000000000000 Raw Read Error Rate
05 100 100 _50 000000000000 Retired Block Count
09 100 100 __0 000000001172 Power On Hours
0C 100 100 __0 00000000027D Power Cycle Count
AA 100 100 _10 00000000002A Reserve Block Count
AC 100 100 __0 000000000000 Erase Fail Count
AD 100 100 __0 000000F50039 Vendor Specific
B5 100 100 __0 000000000000 Program Fail Count
BB 100 100 __0 000000000000 Reported Uncorrectable Errors
C0 100 100 __0 000000000002 Vendor Specific
C4 100 100 __0 000000000000 Reallocation Event Count
DA 100 100 __0 000000000000 Vendor Specific
E7 100 100 __0 000000000062 SSD Life Left
F1 100 100 __0 000000160200 Lifetime GB Written
F2 100 100 __0 0000001D3B68 Lifetime GB Read

-- IDENTIFY_DEVICE ---------------------------------------------------------
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
000: 0040 3FFF C837 0010 0000 0000 003F 0000 0000 0000
010: 3134 3233 3831 3630 3030 3030 3031 3034 3032 3134
020: 0000 0000 0000 5339 464D 3031 2E37 436F 7273 6169
030: 7220 466F 7263 6520 4C53 2053 5344 2020 2020 2020
040: 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 8010 4000 2F00
050: 4000 0000 0000 0007 3FFF 0010 003F FC10 00FB 0110
060: CF30 06FC 0000 0007 0003 0078 0078 0078 0078 0100
070: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 001F 670E 0004 004C 0040
080: 07F8 0000 346B 7D09 6063 3469 BC01 6063 203F 0001
090: 001E 0000 FFFE 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
100: CF30 06FC 0000 0000 0000 0008 4000 0000 0000 0000
110: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 4014
120: 4014 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0029 0000
130: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
140: 0000 0001 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
150: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
160: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0003 0001
170: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
180: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
190: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
200: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 4000
210: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0001 0000 0000
220: 0000 0000 107F 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
230: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0001 0080 0000 0000 0000 0000
240: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
250: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 B0A5

-- SMART_READ_DATA ---------------------------------------------------------
+0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +A +B +C +D +E +F
000: 10 00 01 0A 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 13
010: 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 09 12 00 64 64 72
020: 11 00 00 00 00 00 0C 12 00 64 64 7D 02 00 00 00
030: 00 00 AA 13 00 64 64 2A 00 00 00 00 00 00 AC 32
040: 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 AD 00 00 64 64 39
050: 00 F5 00 00 00 00 B5 12 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00
060: 00 00 BB 32 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C0 12
070: 00 64 64 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 C4 00 00 64 64 00
080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 DA 00 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00
090: 00 00 E7 13 00 64 64 62 00 00 00 00 00 00 F1 12
0A0: 00 64 64 00 02 16 00 00 00 00 F2 12 00 64 64 68
0B0: 3B 1D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0C0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
100: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
110: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
120: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
130: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
140: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
150: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
160: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1E 00 00 7B
170: 03 00 01 00 01 02 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
180: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
190: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1C0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 37

-- SMART_READ_THRESHOLD ----------------------------------------------------
+0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +A +B +C +D +E +F
000: 10 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 32
010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 09 00 00 00 00 00
020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
030: 00 00 AA 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 AC 00
040: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 AD 00 00 00 00 00
050: 00 00 00 00 00 00 B5 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
060: 00 00 BB 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C0 00
070: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C4 00 00 00 00 00
080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 DA 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
090: 00 00 E7 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 F1 00
0A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 F2 00 00 00 00 00
0B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0C0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
100: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
110: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
120: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
130: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
140: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
150: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
160: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
170: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
180: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
190: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1C0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FE

red-ray 02-06-2017 09:14 AM

A few more mouse presses and you will be there
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by j2ee (Post 890098)
http://forum.corsair.com/forums/atta...6&d=1486385634

Here is a screenshot but very different from what you got, look like it cannot read this kind of data from this SSD:

Press the [ S2.2.0 ] button to get the first and then again while holding down the Shift key to get the 2nd.

red-ray 02-06-2017 09:55 AM

I expect CrystalDiskInfo 7.0.5 uses the wrong scaling factor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by j2ee (Post 890104)
Code:

    Host Reads : 1915752 GB  Host Writes : 1442304 GB

090: 00 00 E7 13 00 64 64 62 00 00 00 00 00 00 F1 12
0A0: 00 64 64 00 02 16 00 00 00 00 F2 12 00 64 64 68
0B0: 3B 1D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


Looking at the raw hex numbers.

Code:

Writes 0x160200 which is 1442304 decimal - using 32MB 44.02 TB
Reads  0x1D3B68 which is 1915752 decimal - using 32MB 58.48 TB

So it's using a 1GB scaling factor :(:. I expect this is a bug in CrystalDiskInfo 7.0.5 which you should report to it's developers, please let us know what they say.

I expect SIV will report 44.02 TB + 58.48 TB which are still rather high, but really need to see all the SMART data so will look again once you post the missing two SIV panels.

Corsair, what is the correct scaling factor for the Corsair Force LS SSD : 60.0 GB SSD or the URL of the datasheet that specified this?

If as I suspect Corsair will fail to answer, so log a call via https://corsair.secure.force.com/home/home.jsp and ask.

j2ee 02-11-2017 10:10 AM

2 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by red-ray (Post 890111)
Looking at the raw hex numbers.

Code:

Writes 0x160200 which is 1442304 decimal - using 32MB 44.02 TB
Reads  0x1D3B68 which is 1915752 decimal - using 32MB 58.48 TB

So it's using a 1GB scaling factor :(:. I expect this is a bug in CrystalDiskInfo 7.0.5 which you should report to it's developers, please let us know what they say.

I expect SIV will report 44.02 TB + 58.48 TB which are still rather high, but really need to see all the SMART data so will look again once you post the missing two SIV panels.

Corsair, what is the correct scaling factor for the Corsair Force LS SSD : 60.0 GB SSD or the URL of the datasheet that specified this?

If as I suspect Corsair will fail to answer, so log a call via https://corsair.secure.force.com/home/home.jsp and ask.

32MB:bigeyes:

red-ray 02-11-2017 01:11 PM

I suspect 32MB must be closer
 
I suspect 32MB must be closer, did you ask Corsair what it actually is and what was their answer?

Given the SSD Life Left is still 100% I wonder if the scaling factor is actually 1MB, but only Corsair can provide this information.

j2ee 02-11-2017 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-ray (Post 890846)
I suspect 32MB must be closer, did you ask Corsair what it actually is and what was their answer?

Given the SSD Life Left is still 100% I wonder if the scaling factor is actually 1MB, but only Corsair can provide this information.

I think 99% chance it is 1MB. If I want to ask Consair support then I need to fill in real information which I don't want lol xd. I doubt they would really look it up and answer me anyway. I expect their staff would come to forum and answer question like this but they don't do that at all.


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