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Being that it's a mouse (and keyboard), I would prefer to have it functionally the same regardless of any software being installed (or not) on the computer they are connected to. To me, that means all the keys or buttons function identically for simple operations, such as remapping buttons to act as keystrokes. As far as I can tell, this is perfectly doable with the keyboard. I don't use complicated macros very often, but I can unplug it from my windows desktop and plug it into my linux server and know that if I remapped a key it will still be mapped the same. I can't do that with the mouse, unless I simply never use several of the buttons. I believe there are even more limitations if you use bluetooth wireless mode, which I would be using on any other machine if I didn't have the cable handy. I appreciate all the help figuring this out. The hardware seems to be pretty high quality, and it's one of only two mice I've used to date that I can say is actually comfortable for my hand size and grip (the other being the Logitech G502).

Heh, OK this is a bizzaro bug that I'll tack on here just because it's part of the same adventure... So, I got the mouse semi-configured and unplugged it. Then I'm in the file manager and hit ESC and somehow, that got translated by iCUE into "create new folder"! I kid you not. The software didn't show any keybinds (actions) for the keyboard at all, but somehow because the mouse got unplugged, it started creating new folders whenever I hit ESC with a fille manager window focused. Close (quit) iCUE, and it goes back to normal. Ummmmm... I have no idea how that happened. In fact, I don't even know how to make it happen if I wanted to, since I don't know a single keystroke to just create a new folder and take the default name.

Hmmm, trying to work with the mouse profiles now. Ironclaw Wireless RGB. I REALLY dislike that some buttons are 100% not available in hardware profiles. Why did that happen? Surely it's not hard to allow any button to be mapped to a simple keystroke, mouse button, or nothing at all. The profile up and down buttons are idea for use in voice chat or other things, but they are not available for ANY actions? The option button is one my fat finger is likely to press by accident, but disable isn't an option for hardware profiles? How can making a button send nothing be impossible in hardware, if it can be remapped at all? I accept not allowing the left mouse button to be remapped, even though I think it's a bad decision since left-handed people might want to swap the left and right buttons. For this particular mouse, it's not designed for left-handed people, but I assume the restriction is there for all mice. I don't actually use that many mouse buttons, but I like to have the two DPI buttons as keystrokes to do game stuff, as they're a very convenient location. I usually use a button behind the scroll wheel (profile switch) for voice chat push-to-talk, as it's not likely to get hit accidentally. Beyond that, just the usual left/right/middle and forward/back. I'd just as soon disable the option button so I don't accidentally mash it while grabbing the mouse. That IS how I have the software profile configured.

Heh, one interesting difference between the software and hardware versions of the "gradient" lighting effect.... I set up a static effect to put the keyboard lights on blue with a 50% opacity, then I added a gradient effect that ramps from 0 to 10% red at 2 seconds, and then back to 0 at 8 seconds, and had it set to begin on any keypress and end after 1 animation loop. When the software is running, this creates an interesting effect as each keystroke starts a new copy of the animation loop, resulting in a rather nice effect where if you type just a few keys, you get a dim purple for a few seconds. If you type more text, the keys eventually become almost fully red and slowly fade back to the static blue color. When using the hardware alone, I'm sure it's only single-threaded and simply runs the animation once, ignoring other keystrokes until it's finished. Not a complaint, but it's a subtle difference that makes a huge visual difference, and probably will catch people by surprise. I actually like the additive effect, and wish the hardware version could do it too. :)

I would note that I have two "Default" profiles (software), presumably the second one was created when I added the mouse and simply has the same name. And I just realized that another part of my confusion here is that the iCUE application doesn't follow the normal UI rules of Windows applications. Namely, the close button doesn't close the application (quit), but closes the windows (minimizes). It would be nice if an option were added to allow us to select the behavior (close window vs exit software), since there's already a minimize button. Thanks for the help, I'll get there eventually.

Hey guys, still struggling with iCUE. I upgraded the software to version 3.23.66 and allowed it to update the firmware in my K70 RGB MK 2 to the latest version, 3.24. I currently have two issues. First, it is very counter-intuitive that importing a profile you exported creates a NEW profile, rather than importing the settings into the one you have selected. This means there is no way (that I can figure out) to save something from the hardware and copy it to the default profile, other than switching back and forth and laboriously setting it all up by hand. This wouldn't matter, except when you exit the iCUE program, it always (ALWAYS) switches to the "Default" profile, regardless of which one was active before. Problem #2 is that in the iCUE software, I have 4 profiles for the keyboard. The Default (software) profile, and 3 distinct hardware profiles. The hardware itself has 3 profile slots. I have made sure I saved each of the hardware profiles, labeled K70P HW1, K70P HW2, and K70P HW3 to their corresponding hardware slots on the keyboard, and that each has been written to the actual hardware memory (according to the software anyways). The problem is, the switch profile key on the keyboard no longer cycles through all 3 profiles, but merely switches back and forth between the software Default and Hardware slot 1. I know this, because I gave each of the 4 profiles a distinct color for the profile key light itself (yellow, red, green, blue). How can I restore the original functionality of the key so I can freely cycle between my 3 hardware profile slots? It seems silly that I'd have to totally uninstall the software to be able to use all 3 hardware slots, and re-install it to be able to edit them. There has to be a better solution. I'm trying to get this sorted out before tackling the issue of the wireless Ironclaw mouse that I failed to get profiles to stick to entirely, but that's another story for another day. :) EDIT: I think I see what's going on with the profile switching. Watching the iCUE software window, it appears that when you have a hardware profile selected, hitting the hardware profile select key flips between the hardware profiles (in my case, 3 choices). If you have a SOFTWARE profile selected (Default), it flips back and forth between the two software profiles (which are the default for the KEYBOARD, and the default for the MOUSE). I find this confusing, because hardware profiles are distinct to a single hardware device, but software profiles appear to be shared. It gets extra confusing because, as I mentioned above, when you exit the iCUE software window, it instantly switches to the default SOFTWARE profile, and then flips back and forth between those software profiles, ignoring the hardware ones entirely. I would rather it not change profiles when I close the software and stay in whichever state I was in.

Sorry for co-opting someone else's posts. Many forums yell at you for making new topics instead of adding replies to closely related ones, so my bad. Hmmm, my instinct says numbers 5 won't work without software support, and numbers 3 and 9 might or might not work, depending on the hardware allowing you to adjust the speed. But I would much rather have the software tell me which features won't work in a hardware profile, as a warning dialog that pops up when trying to save to hardware, so I can decide if I'd rather save it anyways (having those elements NOT get saved), or go change it to values that will work. YMMV. The other issue I had was not having a way to copy the settings from an existing profile into a hardware one. I already had my keyboard configured the way I wanted it, and while it's simple enough to work entirely in hardware, it did take me a while to get it right. When adding the mouse, it suddenly created new hardware profiles that are in the same list with the keyboard profiles. Why would that matter, when I'm trying to update the mouse, you ask? It's because of the UI. When you select the HW 1 IRONCLAW profile, all the keys on the keyboard go dark. It acts like these profiles are actually merged, so each one has the settings of the keyboard AND mouse. This makes a kind of sense if you look at it from the perspective of only allowing a single active profile at a time... but it also makes it unclear what would happen if I figured out how to make it save.... would it save to BOTH hardware devices at once? Would I then have to redo my keyboard settings again? If the older CUE software worked with this mouse, I'd just use that, as that's how I set up my keyboard a few years ago, after being frustrated by iCUE then as well. Sadly, since it hasn't been updated, it doesn't see any newer products, so it's either force iCUE to do what I want, or not. :)

This isn't rocket science. The software recognizes the hardware you have connected and knows exactly what a valid hardware profile can, and must, contain. And I'd be fine with having to spend the time to re-create the profile if it actually stuck. However, it doesn't appear to ever be saved TO the hardware. Regardless of being over USB or wireless, as soon as you tell the iCUE software to exit, the mouse reverts to factory stock lighting, an annoyingly bright rainbow effect. And it's not that some features are greyed out. They are not always present at all, making it very difficult to figure out which combination of chair spinning, animal sacrifices, and burnt offerings will allow you to TRY to save things. The hardware profile tab, for example, was there once... and then vanished. There are hardware profiles listed under the profile tab, but I suspect those are software copies that don't actually get written to the hardware. A user interface should be efficient and functional, and above all else, consistent. In any case, all I wanted to do was set the lighting to match my keyboard (set up and saved via the older CUE software, which was the uninstalled with no ill effects), set the DPI to a rate I can live with, and remap the mouse buttons to be more useful to me.... save that in the hardware so it never needs the software again unless I want to CHANGE it, and call it done. As for just running the software... I wouldn't mind if it wasn't a constant 2% drain on my CPU when I'm sitting idle, doing nothing but watching the process eat between 0.6 and 1.9% CPU to... poll the mouse hardware? Refresh a DirectX display panel that's minimized? Unacceptable. If I had the mouse flashing colors in sync to music being played, I could see it taking a bit of CPU. But just sitting there with nothing changing? If it has a visible presence on an i7-6700k, I shudder to think about the impact it might have for someone with an older or slower system. Anyways, thanks for the reply. I'll fight with this for another couple of days before I either find a way to make it work, or send it back. Have a good holiday season!

This software is the MOST FRUSTRATING software I've ever used on any computer in the past 30 years. Why can you not just simply export a profile and then import it into a hardware slot? Why can't you just save the active profile directly TO a hardware slot? If you can do either of those things, the process is so obtuse that I, a software engineer for the last 25 years, can't figure it out. I have valid settings in the default (software) profile for both my K70 keyboard and my brand new Ironclaw Wireless mouse. I want to save them to the hardware profile slot ON THE MOUSE. There seems to be no way to do this.