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Old 12-03-2019, 04:18 PM
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Received my new MP600 from Corsair today, shipping was insanely fast (2 business days) and the drive is now working perfectly.

No more random slowdowns and inconsistent results, cloned the defective drive and everything is working perfectly as of now.

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Old 12-05-2019, 12:24 PM
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Glad to hear the replacement is working better. Please keep an eye on it and test it as you fill it up. One of the other members had good results from their replacement initially, but saw similar results after a while.

Please keep us posted.

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Received my new MP600 from Corsair today, shipping was insanely fast (2 business days) and the drive is now working perfectly.

No more random slowdowns and inconsistent results, cloned the defective drive and everything is working perfectly as of now.

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Old 12-07-2019, 04:00 PM
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Glad to hear the replacement is working better. Please keep an eye on it and test it as you fill it up. One of the other members had good results from their replacement initially, but saw similar results after a while.

Please keep us posted.
Will do, as I mentioned I cloned my old drive so it's at the same capacity as the old one was (~300GB of space used).

One interesting thing I noticed today when I opened up the Windows defragment/optimize drives (dfrgui.exe) is that it appears Windows was not optimizing any of my drives automatically, even though they were scheduled to be.

This might explain why I was having such major issues with sustained write speeds, but I don't know enough about the technology to say for sure. After running the optimization, sustained write tests maintain the expected speeds for much longer than what I've ever experienced before dropping off to 1GB/s, which I'm assuming is the uncached write speed of this drive.

Anyway, I'll be keeping my eye on it from now on and will let you know if I notice any changes or figure anything else out.
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Old 12-11-2019, 04:18 PM
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Thank you! There are so many variables, be it in software and hardware, that can make it somewhat difficult to pinpoint the cause of these errors. That difficulty is only compounded by the fact that in all the units I've received from users on here, the performance is as advertised, whether empty, filled half-way, or even at 90%. I really wish I had more insight into the goings-on of all the cases presented here. :/ Still, I'll keep checking up the thread.


I will add your thoughts/notes into the spreadsheet I have with all the issues. Thank you again!

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Will do, as I mentioned I cloned my old drive so it's at the same capacity as the old one was (~300GB of space used).

One interesting thing I noticed today when I opened up the Windows defragment/optimize drives (dfrgui.exe) is that it appears Windows was not optimizing any of my drives automatically, even though they were scheduled to be.

This might explain why I was having such major issues with sustained write speeds, but I don't know enough about the technology to say for sure. After running the optimization, sustained write tests maintain the expected speeds for much longer than what I've ever experienced before dropping off to 1GB/s, which I'm assuming is the uncached write speed of this drive.

Anyway, I'll be keeping my eye on it from now on and will let you know if I notice any changes or figure anything else out.
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Old 12-15-2019, 09:14 PM
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I've ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (WI-FI)
wist BIOS Version 1201 I get the 1000MB/s
with BIOS Version 1105 I get full speed 4280MB/s
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Old 12-17-2019, 07:58 AM
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Thank you! There are so many variables, be it in software and hardware, that can make it somewhat difficult to pinpoint the cause of these errors. That difficulty is only compounded by the fact that in all the units I've received from users on here, the performance is as advertised, whether empty, filled half-way, or even at 90%. I really wish I had more insight into the goings-on of all the cases presented here. :/ Still, I'll keep checking up the thread.
I will probably Jinx myself but it has been a very long time now that I noticed the write slowdown again, been updating bios'es on my X570 master as they come in.

I'd guess the last time I saw it was 2 months ago.

Even been adding 200GB to my SSD yesterday to get over 50% usage and write speed was fine.
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Old 12-17-2019, 02:48 PM
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I've ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (WI-FI)
wist BIOS Version 1201 I get the 1000MB/s
with BIOS Version 1105 I get full speed 4280MB/s
Are you staying on the rolled back BIOS, Jordan? Also, if you do, can you please keep me updated on the performance?

I am more and more inclined to believe it has everything to do with software interaction between firmware, drivers, etc. I really hate seeing that there have been many with the slowdown issue and wish I could do more to help beyond just suggesting RMA'ing and such. :/
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Old 12-17-2019, 02:48 PM
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I will probably Jinx myself but it has been a very long time now that I noticed the write slowdown again, been updating bios'es on my X570 master as they come in.

I'd guess the last time I saw it was 2 months ago.

Even been adding 200GB to my SSD yesterday to get over 50% usage and write speed was fine.
Oh excellent! I'm really glad to hear that! :)
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Old 12-17-2019, 04:56 PM
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Oh excellent! I'm really glad to hear that! :)
I can 100% relate to that, understanding and having experienced your job before. I'm not saying that all is well for others using this SSD but I do think it confirms your analysis that it's ..... complicated ... and probably a combination of factors. ... I do am wondering if the return SSD's have data on them because if there weren't, there's not much you can really test.
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Old 12-17-2019, 06:57 PM
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Update from my end,

Kevin: CDM is running as Admin, and I tried to disable/reenable write caching buffer, this has no effect.

I then went to check my optimize/trim tool which user brian91292 suggested. It is set to trim the disk weekly, but hasn't done it in 27 days(?). I manually optimized the drive, and voilà, the MP600 advertised write speeds are back.

Is this a trim issue in the Windows environment with the MP600 or what is going on?
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Old 12-18-2019, 03:05 AM
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Update from my end,

Kevin: CDM is running as Admin, and I tried to disable/reenable write caching buffer, this has no effect.

I then went to check my optimize/trim tool which user brian91292 suggested. It is set to trim the disk weekly, but hasn't done it in 27 days(?). I manually optimized the drive, and voilà, the MP600 advertised write speeds are back.

Is this a trim issue in the Windows environment with the MP600 or what is going on?
Yeah, I set mine to daily and it still doesn’t run at all. Not sure what’s up with that, as my intel 660p seems to be trimmed automatically.
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Old 12-19-2019, 03:35 PM
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This could potentially explain why Kevin isn't experiencing the same issues when benching our "faulty" drives; Windows will automatically run optimize/trim once a new drive is detected. This setting is ON by default in any Windows 10 installation.

I could be horribly wrong though, and Kevin should chime in on this and his test methodologies.
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Old 12-19-2019, 05:25 PM
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Update:
In another test one of my own test samples, I saw slightly lower than expected sequential write (not the 1GB/s everyone else has seen), and I used the Windows 10 optimization in disk management.

Optimizing the drive in Windows 10 seemed to bring the speeds back to normal, so yes, I agree that this could potentially help.

For those who want to try, follow these steps:

- Press Win+R
- Type "dfrgui.exe" then press enter
- Highlight the drive in question
- Click the "Optimize" button

If you want to make Windows automatically optimize, you can change the scheduling settings.

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Old 12-20-2019, 10:08 AM
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Windows optimization not helping. For me random speed degradation to 1gbs or going back to normal 4.2gbs
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Old 12-20-2019, 04:53 PM
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Windows optimization not helping. For me random speed degradation to 1gbs or going back to normal 4.2gbs
Are you still on BIOS v1001? Jordan mentioned he was getting proper speeds with BIOS v1105. Can you try to flash to that version?
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