Rimc_LT Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Jordan and Rimc, both of you are on the Crosshair VIII Hero, is this correct? Im using ASUS Crosshair VIII HERO Wi-Fi(same stuff + wifi :D ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee Corsair Kevin Posted September 12, 2019 Corsair Employee Share Posted September 12, 2019 I'm wondering if it's something to do with the BIOS of that particular ASUS board. I'm going to scrape through all the specs of everyone in this thread in the next few days and try to find some commonalities. It's definitely interesting that the two of you who are on this board have VERY similar test results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan_ Posted September 12, 2019 Author Share Posted September 12, 2019 Sorry on last post i managed to type that My MP600 is running as OS and that was big type if you didnt notice main is runing as storage. And as its storage i have totaly filled it up to the 0 space point maybe even more then ones. In picture you can see its still runing great to me and there you can see the reads and writes and those are without formating/ secure-erasering, expet the first that Windows needed to see it as storage. Now fow full you can fill the SSD that CDM can still do its job and test this thing? EDIT: What Powerstage are you running your Windows? ... Main runs as "AMD Ryzen Balanced" bro fill and do the test your drive is almost empty! in the picture its only 30% filled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan_ Posted September 12, 2019 Author Share Posted September 12, 2019 Jordan and Rimc, both of you are on the Crosshair VIII Hero, is this correct? yes but I do not think the motherboard has anything to do with that its obvious the drive itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan_ Posted September 12, 2019 Author Share Posted September 12, 2019 still slow no matter what! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seegee911 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) I'm wondering if it's something to do with the BIOS of that particular ASUS board. I'm going to scrape through all the specs of everyone in this thread in the next few days and try to find some commonalities. It's definitely interesting that the two of you who are on this board have VERY similar test results. I also have the Asus Crosshair Hero VIII (Wi-Fi)! I updated the firmware to 11.2, and ran some tests. The very first run I did with crystal disk mark gave me reasonable results, but I ran the same benchmark a minute later, and I was right back where we started. I have run it a few more times over the past day, and they're all the same under-performance on the write speeds. I know my way around this board fairly well, and would be happy to help any way I can. Edited September 13, 2019 by Seegee911 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mummy Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) bro fill and do the test your drive is almost empty! in the picture its only 30% filled Yes! Storage is maybe bad word for most of it. It's more like HalfWay point. Thats why i asked how full drive can you trust that CDM test can work and you know you get real results? Today it's at 57% on the pic. My MB BIOS is 1.60 version thats with agesa 1.0.0.3 ABB in it and im waiting the Asrock to get the ABBA version out so im skipping 1.80 version BIOS this time. EDIT: I run it again and this time, i run it without any other other use then the CDM tester. (pic 2) Edited September 14, 2019 by Mummy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aricee23 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Reads seem fine, but write is way out of spec. The strange thing is when I first installed the OS I ran CDM and got almost matching reads and writes. I've been stalking this thread for a while, I hope there's a fix soon. BTW: on a Gigabyte x570 master so its not just an Asus bios issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee Corsair Kevin Posted September 17, 2019 Corsair Employee Share Posted September 17, 2019 yes but I do not think the motherboard has anything to do with that its obvious the drive itself The micro code, BIOS, chipset drivers, etc from the motherboard manufacturer can play a significant role in the performance of the drive itself. I don't think it's pure coincidence that both your numbers are nearly identical and you're on the same board. However, I'm still open to other possibilities. We're looking for commonalities between these poor performing test runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimc_LT Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Kevin read all posts its not only Asus crosshair hero viii boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mummy Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) The micro code, BIOS, chipset drivers, etc from the motherboard manufacturer can play a significant role in the performance of the drive itself. I don't think it's pure coincidence that both your numbers are nearly identical and you're on the same board. However, I'm still open to other possibilities. We're looking for commonalities between these poor performing test runs. I Downloaded my Chipset (X570) Drivers from http://www.AMD.com "Drivers & Support" Dose any MB manufacture even make own drivers for AMD Chipsets? I didnt find any Chipset drivers for my MB so thats why i did download them from AMD site... EDIT: Yes there is "AMD all in 1 with VGA driver ver:19.10.16_19H1_WHQL" But those are uploaded in June. So that could be even older then, the one in cd that come with the MB. EDIT2: Still going strong thistime test runned on 66% full drive Edited September 18, 2019 by Mummy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee Corsair Kevin Posted September 19, 2019 Corsair Employee Share Posted September 19, 2019 I Downloaded my Chipset (X570) Drivers from http://www.AMD.com "Drivers & Support" Dose any MB manufacture even make own drivers for AMD Chipsets? I didnt find any Chipset drivers for my MB so thats why i did download them from AMD site... EDIT: Yes there is "AMD all in 1 with VGA driver ver:19.10.16_19H1_WHQL" But those are uploaded in June. So that could be even older then, the one in cd that come with the MB. EDIT2: Still going strong thistime test runned on 66% full drive The drivers from AMD should all be the same. I have a bunch of X570 boards here at HQ (including a Crosshair Hero VIII), so I'm going to run my MP600s through their paces on each one to see which boards aren't playing nicely. Thank you for posting your results! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee Corsair Kevin Posted September 19, 2019 Corsair Employee Share Posted September 19, 2019 I also have the Asus Crosshair Hero VIII (Wi-Fi)! I updated the firmware to 11.2, and ran some tests. The very first run I did with crystal disk mark gave me reasonable results, but I ran the same benchmark a minute later, and I was right back where we started. I have run it a few more times over the past day, and they're all the same under-performance on the write speeds. I know my way around this board fairly well, and would be happy to help any way I can. Sorry for the delay. It's really strange to observe your sequential write speeds are on par for what we determined, but the 4k randoms aren't. Additionally, I'm tracking the issue on a spreadsheet I made and this particular board has a 5:1 ratio for people experiencing issues. What BIOS version are you on? Thank you for all the info, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee Corsair Kevin Posted September 19, 2019 Corsair Employee Share Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) To everyone who is encountering these issues with reduced performance, please provide the following via PM: Motherboard: CPU: Memory brand: Memory model: Memory capacity: Memory speed: BIOS Version: Windows Build and Version: MP600 capacity: MP600 serial number (a photo of the sticker would be great): MP600 Firmware Version: Using drive as OS or storage? Which M.2 slot? Stock heatsink on MP600? If no, what are you using for a heatsink? Also, if you're no longer experiencing issues because you've made some changes from your initial tests, please share what changes you've made. Edited September 20, 2019 by Corsair Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimc_LT Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) Motherboard: Asus Corosshair VIII Hero WIFI CPU: 3700X Memory brand: Corsair Memory model: VENGEANCE® RGB PRO DDR4 DRAM Memory capacity: 16GB (2 x 8GB) Memory speed: 3600MHz C16 BIOS Version: Now on 1001 before on 0803 (same problems) Windows Build and Version: Windows 10 PRO x64 1903 18362.356 MP600 capacity: 1Tb MP600 serial number (a photo of the sticker would be great): Cant photo now ssd. This is box sticker MP600 Firmware Version: EGFM11.2 Using drive as OS or storage? OS Which M.2 slot? tried both m2 slots from CPU and from chipset same speeds. Stock heatsink on MP600? Stock Edited September 24, 2019 by Rimc_LT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimc_LT Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Also I have theory about problem. Recently watched der8auer [ame] [/ame] about pcie4 ssd and were was MP600 on video 10.10 minute was slide about thermal throttling of drives and corsair on 70 Celsius is throttling at write speed of 1080 like almost we all have but if it was thermal problem our read speed also would throttle down to 2378 so i looked at temperature of drive when i benching it it stays below 50 Celsius degree. So my theory is that sensor in drive is bad and it throttling down write speed. Just theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee Corsair Kevin Posted September 20, 2019 Corsair Employee Share Posted September 20, 2019 Also I have theory about problem. Recently watched der8auer about pcie4 ssd and were was MP600 on video 10.10 minute was slide about thermal throttling of drives and corsair on 70 Celsius is throttling at write speed of 1080 like almost we all have but if it was thermal problem our read speed also would throttle down to 2378 so i looked at temperature of drive when i benching it it stays below 50 Celsius degree. So my theory is that sensor in drive is bad and it throttling down write speed. Just theory. That's completely possible, honestly. I know it's frustrating, but I'm doing what I can to pinpoint the issue, and with this official tracker that I've created, we can collect the data and move forward with the best course of action. Rimc, can you PM the serial number and other info from the box and/or the underside of the MP600? Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee Corsair Kevin Posted September 20, 2019 Corsair Employee Share Posted September 20, 2019 Motherboard: Asus Corosshair VIII Hero WIFI BIOS Version: Now on 1001 before on 0803 (same problems) Windows Build and Version: Windows 10 PRO x64 1903 18362.356 MP600 Firmware Version: EGFM11.2 Stock heatsink on MP600? Stock Also tryed both m2 slots from cpu and from chipset same speeds. Thank you. I forgot to add the M.2 slot in my tracker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee Corsair Kevin Posted September 20, 2019 Corsair Employee Share Posted September 20, 2019 Reads seem fine, but write is way out of spec. The strange thing is when I first installed the OS I ran CDM and got almost matching reads and writes. I've been stalking this thread for a while, I hope there's a fix soon. BTW: on a Gigabyte x570 master so its not just an Asus bios issue. Hi Aricee, can you change the tests on CDM to match the others? Seq Q32T1 4KiB Q8T8 4KiB Q32T1 4KiB Q1T1 I just want to limit variables in everyone's test conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mummy Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) Also I have theory about problem. Recently watched der8auer about pcie4 ssd and were was MP600 on video 10.10 minute was slide about thermal throttling of drives and corsair on 70 Celsius is throttling at write speed of 1080 like almost we all have but if it was thermal problem our read speed also would throttle down to 2378 so i looked at temperature of drive when i benching it it stays below 50 Celsius degree. So my theory is that sensor in drive is bad and it throttling down write speed. Just theory. I was thinking that too when i did see that video thanks for remainder. Today i did 2 runs and the secend one is after usage and your remainder. So i set up HWinfo to show the temps. And what you know it looks like as the write section is after the read it heats up the drive and atleast this time my results get lower. Orginal heatsink of MP600 Litlle under EVGA GTX 1080 non spinning fan GPU on straigth front intake airflow bath of Corsair Sp120 Chassis 2 or 3 in the HWinfo log. Same 1.60 BIOS like last time as haven have time to instal new one and Jayz two cents last video update of bad BIOS update of ABBA so yeah. EDIT: Yes eather temps activate some self protection on this drive or rerun of the CDMtest dose some weird specialy on allmost fulöl drive(trim,self cleaning,---). Or its the Chipset that gets hoter and panicy--- Eather way they are next each other and this MB is so limited run that i dont think i get help from EK to do me full water block on this MB. So are you Corsair doing NVMe drive WB? .. I migth be intrested to install one ;) Here is added run on colder pc (pic3) and the result ar back normal. ten after sum runs weard result are back (pic 4). Final run 10(of repeat runs) with added ATTO results (pic5). EDIT 2: over night i have bean done work to this drive like you can see on the allmost used place this time temps are just after test as i forget to make it run before... But then again Chipset is getting little warm on (pic6). EDIT3: Oops! Allso wrong drive listed on the Corsair tool in the pic6 sorry! Edited September 22, 2019 by Mummy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltedSlug Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) I just came across this post when I finally decided to check how my drives are doing. I am experiencing these drastically reduced write speeds on my OS drive that is only 27% filled. I have two of these 1tb MP600's and the one with my games on it that is 67% filled does not have the write problems. Now I just can't remember which drive is on what M.2 Slot. Is there a way to find out without removing one drive? I have an MSI MPG X570 Gaming Pro Carbon Wifi. I have one of the MP600's in the top slot and one in the bottom. I also don't remember which slot has direct access to the cpu instead of the controller. So i'm guessing this might be the issue. The question is which one is slow. I'll have to find out which slot is which to figure that out. Edit: m2_1 is the top slot and has access to the cpu. m2_2 is the bottom slot and goes to the chipset. I intended to install the OS on the m2_1 to the cpu. I was lazy though and had both drives installed and just installed the OS on one of the drives. Anyone know a way to check? Edit2: I'm on the latest chipset drivers for the x570: amd_chipset_drivers_v1.8.19.0915 I'm on the 7B93v11 Bios from 7/02/19. I've been holding off on the ABBA bios update since things have been running fine. (Except this Corsair MP600) I have been reading around with others with this same issue and different PCIE4 NVME drives. One claiming those chipset drivers fixed it. Some saying it doesn't. Edited September 22, 2019 by SaltedSlug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimc_LT Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Same stuff whit newest Asus Crosshair VIII Hero BIOS Version 0901 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan_ Posted September 25, 2019 Author Share Posted September 25, 2019 Same stuff whit newest Asus Crosshair VIII Hero BIOS Version 0901 I tried my ssd on Z390 motherboard with i9-9900K processor and it was same **** (I didn't get 5000MB/s read) but the write speed was capped (1000MB/s) so definitely it's not motherboard nor the chipset IT"S THE SSD AND CORSAIR still refusing to say it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Istipisti Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Hi, same problem here with my MP600 1TB Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix x570-E, BIOS:1201 CPU: Ryzen7 3700X Memory: G.Skill 32GB 3600MHz CL16 Windows 10 Pro x64 version:1903 SSD: 1TB MP600, S.N.192882290001285535BC Firmware: EGFM11.2 Original heatsink (temp: 47°C) Total Host Reads/Writes: 5,2/3,5 TB Using drive as OS or storage? Yes Which M.2 slot? near CPU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seegee911 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Try running Atto Disk Benchmark 4.01 and see what you get... I've noticed a lot of fluctuations in speeds and atto shows it clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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