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  1. Your response about the Capellix pump whine is a total cop out. The complaint thread about Capellix pump noise is now 11 pages long! How can you continue to pretend that pump noise is not an issue with the Capellix pumps when there are 11 pages of complaints about it? Looks like someone figured out how to lower the pump speed by hacking a config file. Reports from those who tried this all say that it seems to work, and the pump noise problem is gone (no thanks to Corsair). So the statements made by Corsair that A-The pump speed cannot be lowered, B - at lower speeds the pump could not overcome loop resistance, and C (my favorite) - that the pump would make MORE noise at lower speeds, all seem to be 100% FALSE. Finally, Corsair marketing pics of the new AIO pumps with LCD screen show the pump running at 600RPM. Is this speed supported in the new Corsair iCue Elite LCD AIO pumps or are these marketing pictures misleading? It has to be one or the other so which is it? What is the minimum pump speed supported for these new coolers? Please don't respond with another BS statement that "Noisy pumps that emit any high frequency whine is not regular. Please open a ticket with our support if you are experiencing this." Maybe this time you could actually acknowledge the 11 pages of complaints, comment on the config file hack that a desperate customer found, and explain the ridiculous statements made by Corsair that the pump speed cannot be lowered, cannot overcome loop resistance at lower speeds, and would make MORE noise at lower speeds. So what's it going to be this time? Another stock BS response, or actually acknowledging 11 pages of customer complaints, commenting on an end user's hack to get around the high minimum pump speed limitation imposed by Corsair, and apologizing for the obviously false excuses previously posted by Corsair?
  2. Its pretty clear that Corsair is not going to do anything about this. I have no idea why they said the pump will not be able to overcome loop resistance at lower RPM. Its just an Asetek Gen-6 pump, which I believe is used on many other manufacturer's AIO coolers that can run at lower RPM than the Corsair Capellix products. The same Corsair guy also said that the pump would be louder at lower RPM, so I take both statements with a large grain of salt. If this work around allows the pump RPM to be lowered, I say give it a try while keeping a close eye on temps. If the coolant is not moving you will know it. If lowering the pump speed this way works and does not cause problems, then Corsair has some explaining to do. It will be interesting to see if any of the Corsair reps bother to respond to this with anything more than stating that lowering pump RPM by "hacking" the config file will void the warranty.
  3. That's great news. I suspect ThePlum will be very happy to see this. The H110i and H110i GT are both CoolIt pumps. There must be something different between these 2 models and the H80, H80i, and H100 which are also CoolIt pumps but were never placed on the dropped support list. Squeaky hinge gets the oil I guess! Nice to see Corsair listening to their customers. Kudos for this!
  4. Yes. I use a program called SIV to control my Corsair H110i, a commander Pro and several lighting node pros. SIV can control your H100i GT, which has a CoolIt pump. I posted about SIV a few posts back in this thread. Here is a LINK. There are links to the SIV download site and the author's forum in my other post. Good luck!
  5. This thread is almost a year old now, and 9 pages long. Corsair has barely responded to any of the posts in this thread. Corsair Travis stated that the pump must run at high speed to overcome loop resistance, and that he has a Capellix AIO running in open air and he can't hear it. I guess this is supposed to infer that this makes it OK? He also said they were Looking into it.. That was in April of 2021. Several Corsair people (most recently Corsair Albert) have said to open a ticket, which will solve nothing. Now they have released the H170i Elite Capellix. I asked if this AIO uses the same pump with the same high minimum RPM. I got the same stock response from Corsair Albert - the pump should not be noisy and if yours is, open a ticket. He did not actually answer my question which was does the H170i Elite Capellix use the same Asetek Gen-6 pump as the other Capellix AIO coolers, with the same high minimum pump speed. It is clear to me that Corsair is not going to admit to this problem, and they are not going to fix it. I assume that they actually can't fix it which means it is a design flaw that they cannot resolve with a firmware update. Considering the Capellix is Corsair's top of the line AIO cooler, it's pretty lame that they are ignoring the 9 pages of noise complaints in this thread. I don't know if the H170i Elite Capellix AIO uses the same Asetek Gen-6 pump with the same high minimum RPM limitation as the earlier models. If it does, and they still did not do anything about it, that is also pretty lame. Time to move on from Corsair AIO coolers.
  6. Agree that most software offered by Asus (Aura, Armoury Crate) and Gigabyte (and MSI) are even worse than iCue. Aquacomputer Aquasuite is considered to be by far the best by many serious custom loop builders. And programs like Open RGB and Signal RGB are becoming quite viable and popular replacements for iCue, Aura, Mystic Light, etc.
  7. I am pretty sure that the H100i GT uses a CoolIt pump and the H100i GTX uses an Asetek pump. This is probably why they added support back in for the GTX version but not the GT version. In fact, every model they added back in uses an Asetek pump. Their Capellix pumps are Gen-6 Asetek pumps so iCue 4x must be able to communicate with Asetek pumps but not CoolIt pumps. As I recall, the CoolIt pumps were superior, had better firmware, and a built in 2-port fan controller. I have 2 H110i (no GT or GTX) and they are CoolIt pumps. Here is a list of which models use which pumps. CoolIt Pump - H80, H80i, H100, H100i, H110i, H110i GT Asetek Pump - H80i GT, H80i V2, H100i GTX, H100i V2, H110i GTX, H115i, Capellix (Gen-6) I suspect that Corsair changed to Asetek pumps because Asetek has a patent on the pump being mounted on the CPU block and basically forced CoolIt out of the market. Here are some links that discuss the differences between CoolIt and Asetek pumps. The CoolIt pumps have several advantages. https://www.gamersnexus.net/industry/1809-asetek-vs-coolit-liquid-cooling-market-shrinks
  8. Yes I mentioned SIV. I have been using it to control my Corsair stuff for years, in 3 different builds. I posted more about it HERE. SIV is the most powerful system monitoring program I have ever encountered. It is a labyrinth of menus and panels. Control of Corsair products is probably 1% of the SIV code. Despite all it can do, it uses very little system resources, SIV is also highly customizable and it can be overwhelming at first glance. There is a Guide for setting up SIV to control Corsair hardware. Its a little hard to look at but if you follow it exactly it will work. SIV RGB - Control of Corsair products was added to SIV back in the Corsair Link days. It's has all of the basic RGB effects that Link had for fans and pumps. It does not have the more complex RGB effects that Corsair does in software. As LeDoyan mentioned Here, Corsair's RGB controllers are pretty dumb. They can store then play the basic RGB effects without Link (or iCue) running. When the LL series fans came out, the Commander Pro could not handle them so Corsair went to software based RGB effect playback. Link gave way to iCue and the rest is CPU hogging history. So SIV can do the basic RGB presets. It can't do the more complex ones, and it cant' control RGB keyboards and mice. I attached a panel showing what devices (not just Corsair) that SIV can monitor and/or control. Note that some are monitor only. I use SIV to control my H110i and H110iGT AIO pumps, Commander Pros, Lighting Node Pros, and Lighting Node Cores. I don't have an RGB keyboard or mouse. Aquasuite - In addition to SIV, I am now using Aquacomputer Aquasuite (AQS) and 2 Farbwerk360s to control LED strips and Fractal AIO pump (I didn;t but a Capellix because of all the Noise Complaints), AQS is great at complex custom loop control and is considered the best among the hard core custom loop gang. Fan control is way more advanced than Corsair. Their RGBpx platform is really nice but its very different than iCue. Unlike Corsair, they do support other manufacturer's products. Their Splitty4 is designed specifically to integrate Corsair or NZXT fans. OpenRGB - I am also using OpenRGB for Asus mobo and G.Skill RGB RAM control. It does OK, though often would not detect one of my DIMMs when set to start at logon. Delaying the start seems to have fixed that. OpenRGB can control all of the Corsair controllers. It's capabilities are pretty basic but its getting better all the time. Signal RGB - I have played with Signal RGB. It can control all of my Corsair stuff just fine. Signal RGB uses a canvas where you place your RGB devices. Various color effects playback on the canvas. Where your device is located on that canvas determines what the LEDs do. I was able to get it to control all of my devices, place them on the canvas, any playback their various effects. The results are interesting but very different. There doesn't seem to be a way to just have a basic preset, like Marquee for example. Most of their effects were very "busy" and just made my computer looks like a discoteque. I think their focus is game integration as they way they control LEDs makes tracking game screens (and video in general) easy to do. So their are alternatives, each with their own strengths and weaknesses. iCue is bloated and resource heavy. Its fan control is very basic. iCue RGB control is very powerful, but that does not mean much if the Corsair product you bought 2 years ago is dropped, or the program keeps crashing, or is sucking up way too much of your CPU. I think Corsair got in over their heads with iCue and they are having a hard time dealing with all the bugs. Some issues have literally been reported for years, In the meantime, their hardware is getting cheaper. Dead fan and RGB ports, noisy Capellix pumps, LEDs that fail in weeks if set to white. They still have some good fans, PSU's, and I guess good RAM if you know what you are looking for. Other than that - pass. Hope this helps someone.
  9. I have Commander Pro's in an X99 system (Intel 5820K) and a Z370 system (Intel i7-8700k). They were purchased about 2 years apart. Both of them had Lighting Node Pro's plugged into their USB loop through ports. I had USB connectivity problems with both of them. Ended up installing NZXT internal USB2.0 hubs in both of them and all of the USB issues stopped. That is why I do not accept Corsair's position that it is an AMD issue. FWIW - I built a Ryzen system (5950X). It doesn't have a Commander Pro in it but it does have 2 Lighting Node Cores. Their USB ports plug into an Aquacomputer Hubby7 USB2.0 internal USB hub that is Sata powered. I have never had any USB related problems with the Lighting Node Cores or any other USB device connected to that rig. USB issues aside, my Commander Pro's have been very reliable. Never had a problem with the fan or temp probe ports. I have had problems with one of the RGB ports on one of them. I have an LED strip plugged into it. Occasionally it freezes. The only thing that fixes it (AFAIK) is disconnecting and reconnecting the LED strip. It starts working again after I do that.
  10. Yeah, I'm sure Asus is going to get right on that. While they are at it, maybe they will decide to totally recode Armoury Crate so that it is not a steaming pile of doggie doo doo. So you could reach out to Asus support, and enjoy the long holds, unreturned messages and calls, and hard to understand level 1 phone techs reading from a script. If you are lucky, they might actually release an update that might fix this problem without causing 3 new ones. Then you can look forward to fighting with iCue and it's long list of unresolved bugs and dropped support for a long list of Corsair' own products. Or you could take another path. The whole computer RGB craze evolved in a very haphazard way, resulting in a chaotic mess of conflicting standards and buggy RGB control programs that often interfere with each other. Due to this, several stand alone, open source alternatives have appeared. When they first came out they were pretty limited and had a lot of issues, but as time went by, some of them have developed into viable options to replace the buggy, resource hogging programs offered by Asus and Corsair. Step 1 - Acknowledge and admit that Asus Armoury Crate (and Aura) are poorly coded nightmares that are probably never going to work right and never be fixed. Step 2 - Acknowledge and admit that Corsair iCue is a bloated, buggy mess. Step 2 - Uninstall Asus Armoury Crate with Revo uninstaller. Run CCCleaner after to get rid of any remnants in the registry. Sep 3 - Uninstall Corsair iCue. Step 4 - Download and install OpenRGB. Step 5 - Configure OpenRGB to control whatever Corsair LED controllers you have, and whatever Asus products you have.(G.Skill RGB RAM also supported). Step 6 - Rejoice in the knowledge that you have eliminated 2 poorly coded, bug ridden, resource hogging programs and replaced them with a lightweight, stable, easy to use, free RGB control program that supports a large (and growing) list of RGB enabled products. Signal RGB is another good option, though it is very different than OpenRGB. Good Luck, whatever you decide.
  11. H110i GT is not supported by iCue 4.xx. See this thread for a list of products that Corsair has abandoned support for. Your AIO cooler is on this list.
  12. Does this new Elite Capellix AIO cooler have the same noisy pump that can't be slowed down (according to Corsair) as the other Elite Capellix coolers, as described in the 9 page long thread of complaints about extremely annoying, rage inducing high frequency whine, that Corsair has denied, and then ignored? I really wanted to use a Capellix in my Ryzen build but decided to go with something else due to the very long thread full of complaints about extremely annoying pump whine. If this problem, reported by many customers, has been rectified, or this Capellix has a different pump, then kudos to Corsair. If this product has the same pump with the same firmware minimum speed limitation, and the same noise problem, then Shame On You Corsair. So which is it? Same pump and firmware as the previous Capellix coolers or a new and improved version? https://forum.corsair.com/forums/topic/164839-request-icue-elite-capellix-lower-rpm-lt-2000-rpm-for-quiet-profile-via-firmware/page/9/
  13. The USB ports on the Commander Pro are famous for not working reliably or not working at all. Get and internal USB2.0 hub (NZXT or Aquacomputer Hubby7 are recommended) and plug all 3 Commander Pros into the hub. Plug the hub into a Mobo USB port. All 3 Commander Pro's will show up. If you want to avoid endless USB headaches, DO NOT use the USB ports on the Commander Pros. Corsair likes to blame this problem on AMD but I have Commander Pros in an Intel X99 rig and an Intel Z370 rig. On both rigs, If I plug the USB from a Lighting Node Pro into a Commander Pro USB port, it constantly disconnects and reconnects, if it connects at all. I put in an NZXT internal hub - all USB problems stop. You may want to look at this thread. https://forum.corsair.com/forums/topic/168270-usb-connectivity-issues-related-to-amd-500-series-chipsets-megathread/
  14. You are right buddy. What Corsair has done is unforgivable in my opinion. Luckily, there is an alternative to control and monitor your H80i V2 AIO. Read on if you are interested. SIV is a free system monitoring program, similar to HIWNFO, though perhaps even more extensive. The author of SIV got so fed up with Corsair Link that he reverse engineered the control protocols and added support for Link products to SIV. I gave up on Link and iCue years ago and have been using SIV to control my H110i AIO, and my Commander Pro and Lighting Node Pros. Works great. I only use iCue if a Corsair device needs a firmware update. When Corsair rolled out iCue, it was so bad he just gave up on Corsair all together, so he has not added support for some of the newer Corsair products (like Capellix AIO). He is willing to add new devices, but needs one in hand to do so. He refuses to give Corsair any money, so people sometimes pitch in to buy a unit and send it to him to figure out and add. I know he recently added support for the Commander Core and Lighting Node Core. SIV has a bit of a learning curve but once you get it set up, it works great, uses very little CPU, and is rock stable. It can also do some things that iCue can't like aggregate multiple temp sensors together into a "synthetic" temp that can be used for fan speed control. Monitoring and controlling Corsair products is by no means the main intent of SIV. It is a VERY extensive system monitoring program that just happens to be able to control most of the older Corsair Link/iCue enabled products. It also lets you set up really nice looking monitor panels. I attached a screen shot of my SIV panels for my Intel i7-8700K machine, and the main SIV panel (there are MANY more). You can see the data reported by the Commander Pro mid-way down in the fist and second tables. If you want to try SIV, here are links to the SIV site and support forum. SIV Site SIV Forum. Corsair may not like this post, but I would NEVER buy a Corsair iCue product if SIV can't control it. When I started on my Ryzen build, the ground rules were NO Aura, NO Armoury Crate, and NO iCue. Based on what Corsair has done to iCue users, I am very glad I stuck to those rules. Good luck!
  15. iCue fan control is pretty lame, Aquasuite can do all of this and more. You can perform a bunch of different mathematical functions on multiple sensor data including sum, difference, average, min, and max. I have it set up to compare 2 rad temp sensors and pass the higher value. I have another temp sensor measuring ambient temp. My fans are controlled by the difference between the highest rad temp and ambient. I also added a fan aimed at my GPU. This fan is controlled by the delta between GPU temp and ambient temp. If my pump speed goes below a trigger value, Aquasuite will shut down my PC. All of this works great. Aquasuite also has very powerful RGB control, and unlike Corsair, they provide adapters to allow control of 3rd party RGB devices, or control of their RGB devices by other RGB controllers. AFAIK, iCue cannot do any of the things you have described. Aquasuite can do at least the first 3. Not sure about #4. Their hardware controllers are on a whole other level compared to Corsair's. Maybe its time to step up. You won't regret it.
  16. Wow. I have been away from this forum for awhile. Just read the last few pages in this thread. I am SO HAPPY that I decided NOT to use Corsair iCue in my new build. I feel for you guys. It seems like Corsair has lost control of this software. My head is spinning from all of the bug reports. That and dropping support for a bunch of their own products?!? Just WOW. I stepped up to Aquasuite and OMG what a difference.
  17. HA! You're funny! NZXT CAM is a bigger nightmare than iCue, but they do make a decent internal USB2.0 hub, and have updated the product several times. My latest rig has an NZXT Gen-3 internal hub and an Aquacomputer Hubby7. They each have their own advantages and disadvantages. Maybe Corsair will come out with one, and include it with their higher end cases.
  18. Marquee please! My last build had 4 rules for RGB - NO Aura, NO Armoury Crate, NO iCue, and NO Thermaltake TT RGB Plus. I have the following devices with RGB. Asus X570 mobo (Dark Hero) G.Skill Trident-Z RGB RAM 7 Corsair QL series fans (bling over function) Fractal Celsius+ AIO pump Thermaltake PSU with a Riing Duo fan I decided to go with AquaComputer for fan and RGB control. The AquaSuite fan control is light years beyond iCue, so fan and pump speed control is covered. For RGB, I put in 2 Farbwerk360 RGBpx controllers and some Aquacomputer RGBpx LED strips. AquaSuite RGBpx control is very extensive and powerful, but there are certain RGB effects that Corsair offers that Aquasuite does not. Marquee is the one I am interested in. Since I have 7 Corsair QL series fans, I have 2 Lighting Node Cores. Since I refuse to install iCue, I can use SIV or OpenRGB to control these. SIV has a Marquee preset but OpenRGB does not. Aquasuite has adapters to control Corsair RGB fans, and a bunch of great presets, but nothing like Marquee. So right now I have RGB control set up as follows: Asus Mobo and G.Skill RAM - OpenRGB Corsair QL fans - SIV using Marquee preset Fractal Pump LEDs - Aquasuite Aquacomputer RGBpx LED strips - Aquasuite Thermaltake PSU fan - NO CONTROL Progress! While I have managed to not install any of the 4 "forbidden" RGB apps, I still have 2 separate RGB control programs running, plus SIV (which is primarily a system monitoring utility that happens to be able to control some Corsair devices). If OpenRGB had a Marquee preset, I could move the QL fans from SIV control to OpenRGB control. I am also hoping that OpenRGB can detect and control the Riing Duo fan in the Thermaltake PSU, which defaults to Unicorn Vomit. I think maybe it can but have not tried it yet. The PSU fan RGB is only accessible via USB, so I cant' connect it to a Lighting Node Core RGB port or a Farbwerk360 RGBpx port without opening up the PSU to get to the fan RGB control cable. The other big thing that I would love to see added to OpenRGB is some basic RGB effect layering. iCue and Aquasuite support layering but SIV and OpenRGB do not. There are some RGB layered effects I had previously set up in iCue that I don't think could be duplicated in any other RGB control program that I am aware of. I wish I could use these complex layered effects, but not so much that I would install iCue on this system. I am not asking for or expecting the level of layering control that iCue offers. Just some basic layering capability.
  19. The NZXT hub can replace the Commander Pro as a USB internal hub, but that's it. The Commander Pro has 6 fan ports and 2 RGB ports. The NZXT USB hub does not. It's just a USB hub. No fan or RGB control.
  20. I was not aware that there are different versions of the Commander Pro but suppose there could be. Both of mine are several years old. In 2 different Intel systems, the USB hub ports on both of my Commander Pros had constant problems. But I also had problems with the Commander Pro main USB port when plugged directly into a mobo USB2.0 header. I tried disabling USB selective suspend and Windows sleep settings, which did not fix it. What did work was putting an NZXT internal USB2.0 hub in and plugging the Commander Pro and Lighting Node Pros into that. That is why I say that Corsair USB problems are not all AMD's fault. Instead of passing blame, maybe Corsair could look into whether their products have USB issues since these problems have been reported for years before Ryzen was released.
  21. I think its called "Adding Insult to Injury".
  22. I agree that Corsair dropping support for a bunch of their own products, some of which are fairly recent and still available in sales channels, was a horrible decision. And then allowing iCue 3 to alert that there is a software update with no consideration given to whether the user has components that are not supported by iCue 4.x. Just Wow. I have completely rid my system of Corsair fan and RGB control products. I moved up to AquaSuite which offers fan control that is lightyears beyond Corsair. There is a reason that Aquasuite is so popular with hard core custom loop builders. Their RGBpx platform is also quite nice but very different than iCue. It takes some getting used to, and there are some things I could do in iCue that I have not figured out how to replicate in AquaSuite. Those things were not worth dealing with Corsair iCue.
  23. Glad to hear that adding an NZXT internal USB hub solved your problems. You are 100% correct. You should not have to buy an additional component to make these devices work properly. I have been fighting with Corsair USB ports for years. It got to the point where I just assumed I would need to provide an internal USB hub, and also not use the 2 USB ports on the Commander Pro. They have never worked properly. Regarding your LED hubs, I was not trying to be pedantic, just trying to clearly understand the problem. While AMD X570 and similar chipsets do have USB stability problems, Corsair USB problems far predate Ryzen. There are posts on this forum going back years reporting Commander Pro USB port problems. Corsair never did anything about it then, and now that they can blame AMD, I seriously doubt that they are going to do anything about it now. I solved the problem by not using Corsair fan or RGB controllers.
  24. TLDR - Just buck up and get a decent internal USB2.0 hub. They are not that expensive and usually solve this problem. Your statement that your RGB hubs are experiencing USB disconnects confuses me because Corsair RGB hubs are passive devices that just loop the RGB Data Out to Data In on Corsair RGB fans. They have 6 RGB ports into which you plug the fan RGB cables, and a captive whip that plugs into an RGB port on a Commander Pro or Lighting Node Pro. RGB hubs don’t have any USB to disconnect. Are you referring to a Lighting Node Pro or Lighting Node Core? Those do have USB connections. I also have a Crosshair VIII Dark Hero running Bios 3601. I decided against using icue or aura in this build, but I do have 7 QL series fans and 2 lighting node cores. They are both plugged into an Aquacomputer Hubby7 internal USB2.0 hub. I have not had any problems with USB disconnects. If the problem is making your computer unusable, just get an internal USB hub. They don’t cost much and do seem to solve this problem. Corsair likes to blame it on AMD, but I have had commander pro and lighting node pro USB disconnect issues in 2 different Intel rigs - Haswell-E (i7-5820k) and Coffee Lake (i7-8700k). AMD X570 USB problems are widely reported but my experience is that Corsair Fan/RGB control devices have had USB problems long before X570. If you do decide to try an internal USB hub, get an Aquacomputer Hubby7 or the latest NZXT. The NZXT is the more common choice but the Hubby7 is superior in several ways. If you really want to step up, get an Aquacomputer Quadro or Octo fan controller and maybe a Farbwerk360 RGB controller. That’s what I did after years of fighting with Corsair’s cheap-o hardware and bug ridden, resource sucking software. Aquacomputer’s AquaSuite software for fan control is light years beyond icue. Their RBGpx platform is also really good, and unlike Corsair, they support connecting other manufacturer’s products through devices like the Splitty4 which is specifically designed to connect Corsair or NZXT RGB fans to an Aquacomputer RGBpx port. Good luck!
  25. Your G.Skill link is not working for me. Can you check it? I would like to get that G.Skill cleanup utility. Thanks.
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