Razzez Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 On the Asus memory compatibility list, only the CORSAIR Vengeance, CMZ8GX3M2A1866C9(XMP), is listed, as far as 2 x 4GB sticks go. I was wanting to know it the Corsair Dominator Platinum Memory, 2 x 4GB, CMD8GX3M2A1866C9, was also compatible? The only other, DDR3 1866, memory on the list is 32GB which is way more then I need. Thanks in advance. P.S. I hope my forum account doesn't get deleted again. I had to register all over again to post this. I also tried calling Tech Support on the phone but no one would answer, & I was forced to leave a message, even though I chose to hold & was told my call was going to be answered by the next available agent. When I did leave a message I still didn't get a call back so I tried again. Same thing & no call back. Held for about 15 minutes for nothing :sigh!: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanutz94 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I was wanting to know it the Corsair Dominator Platinum Memory, 2 x 4GB, CMD8GX3M2A1866C9, was also compatible? Yes, they would be. Actually, any of the Dominator Platinum, vengeance Pro, Vengeance, or XMS3 modules would be compatible with that MB/CPU However, I would really suggest you go with a 16 gig kit, 2x8gig kit. 8 gigs may be cutting it close depending on what you do with your machine. And especially if you think you are going to want more in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzez Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 I'm using my PC for gaming & I am actually trying to decide whether or not to get the Sabertooth, or the new X79-Deluxe motherboard. I was also planning to get the i7-4820, but now I don't know if the 3820 would be better, or just as good. The 16 gig kit of 2x8gig wouldn't be better for me then the 2x4gig for a couple of reasons. First of all at this time I am only running Win XP 32bit, however I am planning to upgrade to 64bit, so my system will recognize the additional memory. I never have used Win 7, or 8, so I don't have the experience with them, like I do with XP. I also have no idea how much of my current software would even work with Win 7. The other reason I was getting the 8 gig kit was because these boards run quad memory, which means I would want to run 4x4gig in them, instead of 2x8gig, for better performance. What's the maximum memory XP 64bit will recognize? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanutz94 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 The other reason I was getting the 8 gig kit was because these boards run quad memory, which means I would want to run 4x4gig in them, instead of 2x8gig, for better performance. Your right i missed that. But yes you would want 4 sticks no matter the capacity. Most of your current software should run in Win7 . You may have to run them in compatibility mode though. But most if not all my older software worked right away. What's the maximum memory XP 64bit will recognize? up to 128gig's but there are no current boards that will hold that much besides a server board. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa366778%28v=vs.85%29.aspx If your thinking on holding on to XP , Microsoft is going to discontinue support for that OS real quick here. I believe the end of the year or beginning of next. I would at least move to Win7. It is more or less just as easy as XP just a lot nicer and faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzez Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 I just bought the Sabertooth motherboard & am getting a i7-4820. So what's the fastest, & best memory I can use in it, as far as a 16 gig kit 4x4 gig? Also I'm not worried about Microsoft Support. I never use it anyways. That's one reason I have always stuck with XP & haven't upgraded to Win7. I've been a Computer & Network Admin for many years, in the past, prior to Win7, so I'm not familiar with troubleshooting Win7, but I am XP. So if I can go to XP 64bit, & get full utilization of my memory, I'm debating on whether or not I should get Win7 instead. I haven't purchased XP 64bit yet. Thanks for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanutz94 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 That is going to depend on your CPU's memory controlller. Each and every one will overclock slightly differnt. I have seen some users running up to 2400mhz, However that is a huge memory overclock and great cooling is a must and not every CPU is capable of running the faster memory even if they are the exact same CPU's INHO 2133mhz would be the sweet spot. it's a mid value overclock , wont be too much strain on your CPU's memory controller, and would still give you a snappy, responsive system. But even that speed is not a guarantee. So if I can go to XP 64bit, & get full utilization of my memory, I'm debating on whether or not I should get Win7 instead. I haven't purchased XP 64bit yet.Seriously, I wouldn't spend the money for XP. As I said earlier Microsoft is quitting any support or security updates at the beginning of the year. (April 2014) http://www.technibble.com/windows-xp-support-ends-in-april-2014-what-technicians-need-to-know/ If it's fear of having to move to another OS, Win 7 is the your best bet. If you can navigate XP, you do just fine with Win7. As a matter of fact you probably wish you had done it sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzez Posted October 18, 2013 Author Share Posted October 18, 2013 I know that every CPU is different & that each one will OC differently. I have my CPU & memory both OC'd now. I was just talking about asking about which memory before OC'ing. The speed of memory that's able to be ran is normally based, on the motherboard, not the CPU. The Asus X79 Sabertooth shows that it is capable of running up to 2400mhz. I'm using a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus in my system currently. I'll have to see if I need a new cooler I guess once I get the new CPU. With all the fans in my case it runs pretty cool though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanutz94 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Just keep in ind that despite what the MB is capable of it is still totally dependant of your CPU. If your planning on a pretty decent CPU overclock I wouldn't go much higher than a 2133MHZ kit. The chances of running 2400MHZ memory along with a 4+ghz CPU OC are slim . You are more than welcome to try the 2400MHZ kit ,and I'm not trying to give you a hard time about it, just giving you some heads up so you aren't disappointed with your purchase because they wont run at rated speed with a CPU OC at the same time. Good Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 One thing to consider is that a 2133 kit cannot run 2400. So, if you buy a 2133 kit, that is going to be your maximum speed we can guarantee although you may have luck running them faster. Assume for the moment that your CPU/memory controller is capable of 2250. If you get a 2133 kit, you will be limited by the RAM. If you get a 2400 kit, you will likely be limited by your CPU/memory controller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzez Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share Posted October 20, 2013 That's interesting. Why would the Motherboard say it's able to run 2400 memory if it's not? Also if it depends on the CPU & not the Motherboard why is it determined by each Motherboard, as to how fast the memory is, that it's able to run? Now I'm familiar with OC'ing memory, & I currently am running mine DDR2 PC2-8500 memor, OC'd. I can understand you saying that the 2400 would be hard, or impossible to OC, vs the 2133, but that's not what it sounds like either of you are saying. I've been buying CPU's for awhile now, & I've never seen where they say what speed memory can be ran with them, only the Motherboards. If I'm not mistaken everything depends on the bios settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanutz94 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 That's interesting. Why would the Motherboard say it's able to run 2400 memory if it's not? This is what the board will be able to support through overclocking. And those speeds are only IF you have a CPU that is binned to reach those types of speeds. Also if it depends on the CPU & not the Motherboard why is it determined by each Motherboard, as to how fast the memory is, that it's able to run? The MB actually really plays a smaller part in how fast you can run memory at. It's your CPU that is the biggest deciding factor. But just as all CPU's will overclock slightly different because of small variances , a MB will also be subject to small changes between boards that could impact the ability to overclock. I've been buying CPU's for awhile now, & I've never seen where they say what speed memory can be ran with them, only the Motherboards. Every CPU has a native memory bus speed. That would be the speed that is officially supported without overclocking. It would be the line that reads Memory type. All online vendors also list every CPU's individual specs. Now I'm familiar with OC'ing memory, & I currently am running mine DDR2 PC2-8500 memor, OC'd. I can understand you saying that the 2400 would be hard, or impossible to OC, vs the 2133, but that's not what it sounds like either of you are saying. You would have to know what type and how fast a memory you can run in your system to be able to overclock it. Thats what overclocking is. making your hardware run faster than what is officially supported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzez Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share Posted October 20, 2013 This is what the board will be able to support through overclocking. I hate to disagree with you but that's not the case. The board I have just purchased, for example, is the Asus X79 Sabertooth. If you look at the QVL list you will see, that the maximum memory speed, that can be used in it is 2400. There are actual part numbers listed for 2400 memory sticks listed. It has nothing to do with OC'ing/ The MB actually really plays a smaller part in how fast you can run memory at. It's your CPU that is the biggest deciding factor. But just as all CPU's will overclock slightly different because of small variances , a MB will also be subject to small changes between boards that could impact the ability to overclock. Again you are talking about OC'ing & not the memory the each motherboard is able to run. I know that OC'ing varies, from motherboard to motherboard, & CPU to CPU. I don't debate that. You would have to know what type and how fast a memory you can run in your system to be able to overclock it. Thats what overclocking is. making your hardware run faster than what is officially supported. Exactly what I've been saying except, it's not a matter of how fast it can run, that varies system to system, it just depends on the settings you use in the Bios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I hate to disagree with you but that's not the case. The board I have just purchased, for example, is the Asus X79 Sabertooth. If you look at the QVL list you will see, that the maximum memory speed, that can be used in it is 2400. There are actual part numbers listed for 2400 memory sticks listed. It has nothing to do with OC'ing/ This is not technically correct. You must OC the memory controller to run any memory frequency above DDR1600. It's not OCing for the memory or the MOBO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanutz94 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I hate to disagree with you but that's not the case. The board I have just purchased, for example, is the Asus X79 Sabertooth. If you look at the QVL list you will see, that the maximum memory speed, that can be used in it is 2400. There are actual part numbers listed for 2400 memory sticks listed. It has nothing to do with OC'ing/ Correct, and those kit at the time of testing were validated to run at 2400mhz PROVIDED you have a cpu that will allow those types of speeds. 2400mhz is not a guaranteed speed whether the MB supports it or not or what the BIOS settings are. There is a good article in the Corsair blog that i redirect a lot of people too. Although they are using 3000mhz memory, the principles are the exact same with 2400mhz memory. In this article they went through 25 CPU to find just one that had an IMC able to run 3000mhz. Your odds are slightly better at 2400mhz, but it's still a HUGE OC! http://www.corsair.com/us/blog/vengeance-extreme-3000mhz-setup-and-overclocking-results/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzez Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share Posted October 20, 2013 I'm only planning on getting 2133mhz, but I do plan on OC'ing it, & I don't expect I will have any issues either. P.S. The CPU I am going to use shows under my system specs. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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