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EMERGENCY WITH H60 2013 and very high temperature


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I bought H60 2013 edition 2 mounths ago, i have a Core I5 4670K to default frequency and the temperature before was already high but maybe normal ( or not ? ) :

 

Tamb 31-32°

36° idle

74-75° with 1 minute of Prime95

 

When i return to vacancy after 2 week and i change the mainboard the temperature is changed, i thinked about Qfan setting but nothing and now this is the situation :

 

Tamb 29

38-39° idle

84° with 1 minute of Prime95 ( with Tamb to 31° the max temp is around 93-94° )

 

I tryed to dual fan pull / push but improves only 2° :mad:

The radiator is hot, the air exhaust is really hot, and the tubes is hot and pump run high rpm.

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When i return to vacancy after 2 week and i change the mainboard the temperature is changed,

 

The radiator is hot, the air exhaust is really hot, and the tubes is hot and pump run high rpm.

 

Try reseating the pump head again with fresh thermal paste. That is about the only thing i can think of that would cause this. It sounds as if it's working okay, just not making good contact with the CPU.

 

Also since you changed the MB , be sure you have the back plate mounted properly. They install in one orientation only.

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Could be your mobo needs the washer trick. Or could be your backplate is in the wrong way. It has small notches that go around the screws that come out of the back of the socket backplate. Or you could of just gotten and bad tim IHS that has too big of a gap. Haven't seen that happen a lot tho.
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Could be your mobo needs the washer trick. Or could be your backplate is in the wrong way. It has small notches that go around the screws that come out of the back of the socket backplate. Or you could of just gotten and bad tim IHS that has too big of a gap. Haven't seen that happen a lot tho.

 

the backplate seems ok and the holes is only 4 ! i think is impossible to wrong because not enter throught the mainboard.

the screws is ok

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Please post a picture of both sides of the MB if possible and have you checked for Cap's on the MB getting in the way of the Cooler fitting flush on the CPU? Specifically these highlighted in this PIC:

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the backplate seems ok and the holes is only 4 ! i think is impossible to wrong because not enter throught the mainboard.

the screws is ok

Yup, the screws will still go through the MB if the backplate is upside down. There are two rivets at the top of the socket and correspond with two notches on the back plate. It's pretty easy to overlook if your not looking for it.

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When you changed your MBO did you do a CMOS on it?

Did you instal new windows?

Is CPU instaled correctly on MBO?

 

I changed the MOBO, why do i CMOS ?

I not change the Windows, only formatted and reinstalled Win8 like before.

Yes the cpu obviusly is installed correctly, otherwise not enter in the LGA and not run.

 

 

Yup, the screws will still go through the MB if the backplate is upside down. There are two rivets at the top of the socket and correspond with two notches on the back plate. It's pretty easy to overlook if your not looking for it.

 

Yes i saw, its ok.

 

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/MAXIMUS_VI_HERO/images/socket_rear_small.jpg

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Yup, the screws will still go through the MB if the backplate is upside down. There are two rivets at the top of the socket and correspond with two notches on the back plate. It's pretty easy to overlook if your not looking for it.

Yes i saw, so ...... what do i do ?

Just make sure the backplate is mounted correctly. The two notches in the back plate go over the two rivets in the picture of the back of your board.

 

Like in this pic here http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showpost.php?p=625698&postcount=20

 

To ask a refund to Corsair for not reported incompatibility ?

The cooler is 100% compatible with that MB . If you wish to get a refund you would need to take that up with your reseller or who ever you bought the cooler from.

 

Yes the cpu obviusly is installed correctly, otherwise not enter in the LGA and not run.

Not neccessarily. A PC can still run if pins in the socket are damaged. But it wouldn't function correctly.

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Did you OC the CPU? If so, how? Manually, automatically (via BIOS or SW-tool)?

 

Oops, never mind, just saw that you have it on stock speeds.

 

However: stress tests like prime95 can force the CPU to draw more current than what is specified in the BIOS, meaning you could be simply overpowering your cooling solution with too much Voltage. More Voltage = more heat generated by the CPU.

 

What's your VCore set to? Fixed? Adaptive? You should only stress test with fixed VCore to prevent the CPU drawing more Volts than it (or ultimately your cooler) can handle. You also shouldn't use prime95 with Haswell-CPUs, since it's not certified for those CPUs. Use Aida64's stress test instead.

 

Note: If you do what follows, do so at your own risk. I don't want to be responsible in case something goes wrong on your system.

 

Before you stress test again, check the BIOS to see what your VCore is set to. If it's set to Auto or Adaptive, try setting it to "manual" with a conservative VCore Voltage.. I'd say 1.20 at stock speed should be safe. AFAIK, anything below 1.30 Vcore is considered safe on the Haswells. Or simply check your BIOS to see what the default VCore is (should be shown in your Overclocking/Tuner section), then set VCore to "Fixed" and use that default value. You can also find out your VCore value by checking CPU-Z Hardwaremonitor. The value is called "VID" in there. If the value "fluctuates" in there, use the highest number shown. Then stress test again and check CPU temperatures.

 

Just for comparison: I'm running a 4670k at 4.3 on cores 0&1 and 4.2 on cores 2&3 with VCore 1.25. I have an H60 with two fans in push/pull-config and pretty good airflow in my case. I'm not getting above 70°C on both CPU and the cores under stress with ambient temperature of around 22°C.

 

 

 

S.

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Did you OC the CPU? If so, how? Manually, automatically (via BIOS or SW-tool)?

 

Oops, never mind, just saw that you have it on stock speeds.

 

However: stress tests like prime95 can force the CPU to draw more current than what is specified in the BIOS, meaning you could be simply overpowering your cooling solution with too much Voltage. More Voltage = more heat generated by the CPU.

 

What's your VCore set to? Fixed? Adaptive? You should only stress test with fixed VCore to prevent the CPU drawing more Volts than it (or ultimately your cooler) can handle. You also shouldn't use prime95 with Haswell-CPUs, since it's not certified for those CPUs. Use Aida64's stress test instead.

 

Note: If you do what follows, do so at your own risk. I don't want to be responsible in case something goes wrong on your system.

 

Before you stress test again, check the BIOS to see what your VCore is set to. If it's set to Auto or Adaptive, try setting it to "manual" with a conservative VCore Voltage.. I'd say 1.20 at stock speed should be safe. AFAIK, anything below 1.30 Vcore is considered safe on the Haswells. Or simply check your BIOS to see what the default VCore is (should be shown in your Overclocking/Tuner section), then set VCore to "Fixed" and use that default value. You can also find out your VCore value by checking CPU-Z Hardwaremonitor. The value is called "VID" in there. If the value "fluctuates" in there, use the highest number shown. Then stress test again and check CPU temperatures.

 

Just for comparison: I'm running a 4670k at 4.3 on cores 0&1 and 4.2 on cores 2&3 with VCore 1.25. I have an H60 with two fans in push/pull-config and pretty good airflow in my case. I'm not getting above 70°C on both CPU and the cores under stress with ambient temperature of around 22°C.

 

22° ? for me is winter temperature and u cant to do any comparison with my situation, i have 32° of ambient temperature, a really summer hot temperature, so far from your.

Do u want to make me angry or just joke with your useless post ?

 

Prime95, IBT, LYNX, OCCT ecc are a true stress applications and the cpu should compared only with these applications because the stability can be certificated only with these, other is unreliable and useless, i want to see my cpu with good temp in all use cases, not only with some program chosen by you.

 

If your cpu overclocked cant pass this test is unstable, and if the temp is too high for you means that your cooling is not sufficient, STOP.

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i saw and my backplate is OK.

and now ?

 

My CPU is ok and run perfectly, no pins damaged and nothing issues about, the only problem is the temperature during stress test in default clock.

 

Then I would go ahead and have it replaced. You can use the link on the left to request an RMA. Or if you are still within your resellers time frame to return it there, that is the best place to start. But if you would like Corsair to replace it directly, thats okay too!

22° ? for me is winter temperature and u not do any comparison with my sistuation, i have 32° of ambient temperature, a really summer hot temperature.

This may be part of your issue. But go ahead and have it replaced. However if you get another unit that shows the same temps then that is probably what will be your normal temps given the high ambient temp. Even a good watercooler is going to struggle at higher ambient temps. You just cant get coolant lower than ambient temps.

 

Let us know how you make out!

Cheer!

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Yeah, well.. that's why I said "just for comparison".

 

That's also why peanutz said: "This may be part of your issue".

 

Unless you install some fancy sub-ambient cooling, every cooling solution will hit its limits pretty quickly in high ambient temperatures.

 

 

Do u want to make me angry or just joke with your useless post ?

 

Whatever.

 

S.

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Yeah, well.. that's why I said "just for comparison".

 

That's also why peanutz said: "This may be part of your issue".

 

Unless you install some fancy sub-ambient cooling, every cooling solution will hit its limits pretty quickly in high ambient temperatures.

Whatever.

 

S.

Ok sorry for previous post

I'm dont speak english very well and maybe i have misunderstood the message.

 

However ...... finally i sold this toy and now i'll choose between H100i or Noctua U14s and will see what is the really problem.

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i wish i had a cooler that defies the laws of physics like yours.

 

LOL, I have an Intel DX79SR mobo on which the temperature indicators for CPU Temp, Mem Temp and CPU VR Temp regularly show 0 or +1 degrees C. (Intel's trying but can't yet figure out what's up with the hardware monitoring function on this board.) Saying that, the poster you responded to may have mobo issues he's not aware of.

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i wish i had a cooler that defies the laws of physics like yours.

 

-18° i not means a subzero temperature, means -18° difference compared than H60 temps !

 

Corsair H60 = 84-86° with Tamb to 29°

Noctua U14S = 64-65° with Tamb to 26°

 

add 3° for Tamb difference and get around -18° to difference between two.

 

Do u think only to joke in front of serious problems like kiddy right ?

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-18° i not means a subzero temperature, means -18° difference compared than H60 temps !

 

Corsair H60 = 84-86° with Tamb to 29°

Noctua U14S = 64-65° with Tamb to 26°

 

add 3° for Tamb difference and get around -18° to difference between two.

 

Do u think only to joke in front of serious problems like kiddy right ?

 

its quite understandable how Synthohol misunderstood your post.,the way you worded it made it appear so.

perhaps proof reading would be applicable ,but never less im sure he meant no sarcasm.

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