Any Haswell / H100i owners out there? Opinions needed on new build for HW vs IB

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Hey guys

 

Bad luck for me, had a house break-in and as you can guess, my rig is gone

 

I had a 2600K Sandy Bridge (SB) which I ran @ stock speeds with great performance and temps. Initially had SLI setup but got rid of the second card so overclocking the CPU for single GPU requirements in my opinion is a bit pointless. I use(d) my rig primarily for gaming.

 

Now I am presented with the opportunity to go Ivy Bridge (IB) or Haswell (HW). I was originally leaning towards HW, then IB and now HW again. My reasoning is that since I am buying new, I might as well go with the latest tech available. If I were thinking of upgrading from SB or IB to HW I fully understand that there is no significant performance gain for the $ spent but since I now have nothing, thanks to criminals, surely taking the plunge on a HW platform is warranted? (Feel free to share opinion here)

 

I am aware that IB is hotter than SB and that HW is hotter than IB primarily thanks to Intel and using stupid TIM instead of solder between the die and IHS.

 

I am planning on getting a H100i again as I had the H100 previously. I am also looking at a 4770 (non-K) HW chip. Now at stock speeds, what temps can I expect on a 4770 at idle as well as at full load (worse case scenario)? I will not be overclocking and running a single GPU again, most likely GTX 770 factory OC.

 

Please feel free to share your opinions, especially if based on personal experience (if any) with Haswell and H100i cooling

 

EDIT: IB and HW setups cost the same for me

[wytnyt]

if it were me id just go with the 3770,the 4770 isnt any better and is mostly hype,id get the 'k' just in case i wanted to oc later on

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if it were me id just go with the 3770,the 4770 isnt any better and is mostly hype,id get the 'k' just in case i wanted to oc later on

 

Thanks for the reply. The cost for both options is the same in my country, including equivalent motherboards. Why would I willingly want to go for older tech? Also, as mentioned, I have no interest in overclocking at all as stock speeds are more than sufficient for gaming with single GPU setups

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One other thing, what is this supposed talk about Hawell and periodical FPS drops in games?

[wytnyt]

Thanks for the reply. The cost for both options is the same in my country, including equivalent motherboards. Why would I willingly want to go for older tech? Also, as mentioned, I have no interest in overclocking at all as stock speeds are more than sufficient for gaming with single GPU setups

 

i simply gave my opinion which you ask for on what i thought was the best of the two

many times older proven technology is better as i prefer not being a test guinea pig

 

 

One other thing, what is this supposed talk about Hawell and periodical FPS drops in games?

theres been many complaints regarding the 4770 but lots are sold on the idea of having the newest on the market.,

in my opinion the 3770 beats the 4770 in most every aspect.

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i simply gave my opinion which you ask for on what i thought was the best of the two

many times older proven technology is better as i prefer not being a test guinea pig

 

Meant no disrespect. Appreciate the advise. Personally, I think I am secretly hoping that Haswell's 8 series Lynx Point chipset will be compatible with Broadwell eventually with a BIOS update like the 6 series was compatible with Ivy Bridge eventually. I am also secretly hoping that Broadwell's die will also be soldered to the IHS. If all of this comes to pass, going Haswell/Lynx Point now, may open a door to a hopefully better Broadwell upgrade without having to replace everything

[wytnyt]

np problem,i have a habit of speaking too harshly unintentionally

read the last couple days of posts,i saw somewhere another posted regarding the die

if i run across ill ill post it

[HOODedAssault]

Used sandybridge-e. Faster and has soldered IHS. Or if insurance is paying for it go new (and 780 for that matter lol). Ivy bridge-e will be on 2011 chip set and support pcie 3.0 out of the box. Not like it matters tho, nvidia has a tiny unlocked that takes a split second to run on sandybridge-e CPUs .

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Now at stock speeds, what temps can I expect on a 4770 at idle as well as at full load (worse case scenario)?

 

Please feel free to share your opinions, especially if based on personal experience (if any) with Haswell and H100i cooling

 

I have the h100i and the 4770k set up on an Asus maximus VI hero. I've read that non-oc temps under load are above 65C, but I don't know by how much. I OC'd my chip before looking at non-oc temps.

 

OC'd to 4.5Ghz.

Idle temps are 30C - 34C.

100% load temps between 30 minutes to 1 hour of Prime95 are steady between 78C to 85C.

CPU voltage is set to 1.29V.

H100i water temp maxes at ~34C under full load.

Ambient temp is 24.5C.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Lego

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Thanks for all the replies guys. Decided to go with a an Asus Sabertooth Z77 platform as I can get the motherboard for a few $ less than the Asus Sabertooth Z87. The concerns I have with Haswell has somewhat been alleviated with regards to temps, but my other issue is with Intel's 8 Series Lynx Point chipset USB 3 bug requiring a hardware fix that will take a few months, a situation I cannot afford as I will have a permanently connected external USB 3 drive for backup purposes. I cannot wait for the C2 revision of the chipset as I don't have a PC at all at the moment. At least it is still one generation newer than what I had. Still not sure about 3770 vs 3770K as I don't see me OC-ing at all, I was happy with my stock 2600K's gaming performance