Capt Proton Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I have two Force 3 120GBs in RAID 0 on an i7 3770K/Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 combo. I am running Windows 7 Professional 64bit. I have two 500GB HDDS in RAID 1 for my data. I also have a 1TB HDD for my back ups. Do I need to do any of the tweaks in the sticky? Has the OS caught up? I have read that the OS has caught up and now passes the trim command through Intel Raid. True? Please relieve my confusion and uncertainty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasted Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Yes, the IRST RAID Drivers 11.0+ should have it. As for the tweaks, you should move your pagefile to a mechanical drive. Disable Hibernation and move the temporary folders to the mechanical drive as well. You can move your user folders (Documents, Videos, Pictures, Music) to the mechanical HD as well for more space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Proton Posted April 22, 2013 Author Share Posted April 22, 2013 Yes, the IRST RAID Drivers 11.0+ should have it. As for the tweaks, you should move your pagefile to a mechanical drive. Disable Hibernation and move the temporary folders to the mechanical drive as well. Can you point to any substantiation for this? The sticky, in which I tried to get to the bottom of this in Jan, is quite unclear, however, the techs are suggesting, I believe, that this is no longer necessary. Not saying you are wrong, just looking for the support for your statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasted Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Those tweaks are just there so you can have more free space on your SSD for other more important applications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Proton Posted April 22, 2013 Author Share Posted April 22, 2013 It would appear I have managed to answer my own question with a little further research. from the SSD frequently asked questions sticky. Q: Do I need to tweak my operating system to get my Corsair SSD drive to run at optimal performance? A: No settings within your operating system need to be adjusted for a Corsair SSD drive to run at optimal performance. Q: What about services or programs in my operating system such as indexing, pre-fetching, write-caching, defrag etc? A: Corsair SSDs require no maintenance programs or operating system tweaks So, according to this, extra steps for SSDs are no longer required in Windows 7. Moving the documents, videos pictures etc to another drive to gain space is a no brainer, and is not a performance tweak. I am now satisfied I have found the answer to my question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nec_V20 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 ATA TRIM command now passes through to RAID-0 SSD arrays on very few systems running Intel's RST (Rapid Storage Technology ) RAID driver version 11.0 and newer. This is limited to Intel 7 series chipsets (that is as long as the SSD's are attached to a Z77 motherboard) with RST RAID support. So the honest answer to your question is: NO, TRIM is NOT supported for SSDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Proton Posted April 23, 2013 Author Share Posted April 23, 2013 ATA TRIM command now passes through to RAID-0 SSD arrays on very few systems running Intel's RST (Rapid Storage Technology ) RAID driver version 11.0 and newer. This is limited to Intel 7 series chipsets (that is as long as the SSD's are attached to a Z77 motherboard) with RST RAID support. So the honest answer to your question is: NO, TRIM is NOT supported for SSDs. Congrats. Your post is useful and informative. The kind of information we should be seeing from the Corsair staff. Guess they are too busy with other posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted May 1, 2013 Corsair Employees Share Posted May 1, 2013 Originally Posted by Nec_V20 View Post ATA TRIM command now passes through to RAID-0 SSD arrays on very few systems running Intel's RST (Rapid Storage Technology ) RAID driver version 11.0 and newer. This is limited to Intel 7 series chipsets (that is as long as the SSD's are attached to a Z77 motherboard) with RST RAID support. So the honest answer to your question is: NO, TRIM is NOT supported for SSDs. Where are you getting this from Nec_V20? And Capt Proton I am sorry you see it that way but it is a forum and we will jump in when needed. but when we see helpers who have been approved by our staff answer we will not follow on unless needed. All of our current production and SSD's back to the Original Samsung SSD's we offered supported Trim but to make it more simple any SSD since Force II has supported TRIM out of the BOX. However there is more to TRIM than just the drive it self that is only one part of it to make TRIM work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nec_V20 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 RAM GUY, the person was asking about TRIM on RAID 0 and THAT was the question I answered. I can only suggest that you may have misread my reply to suggest that TRIM was not supported on stand alone SSDs per se. Maybe I should have written: "So the honest answer to your question is: NO, TRIM is NOT (generally) supported for SSDs (in a RAID 0 configuration)"; however I thought that - which I just added (in parentheses and BOLD for your edification) - was pretty much implied in the rest of my answer to the person's ORIGINAL QUESTION There are two reliable sources for my answer: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6161/intel-brings-trim-to-raid0-ssd-arrays-on-7series-motherboards-we-test-it and http://www.tomshardware.com/news/TRIM-RST-RAID-0-SSD-7-series,16898.html You are not - even remotely - considering calling me a liar are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 LOL, no, he's not calling you a liar, but yes, it could have been written a bit clearer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphanerd Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 I understood his reply totally fine the first time....... There was nothing confusing about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted May 3, 2013 Corsair Employees Share Posted May 3, 2013 Nec_V20, I am sorry did not mean to come off that way so I do apologize for that, but yes you are right to a point, let me put it this way TRIM is a command and all of drives since Force will support that command out of the BOX. However there is more to TRIM than just the drive it self that is only one part of it to make TRIM work. The Controller driver would have to pass the Trim command sent by the O.S. for it to work properly and yes Nec_V20 you are correct I believe in that context that there are no raid drivers ATM that I am aware of that officially support the TRIM Command. However, the Intel RST driver since version 10.1.X.X has been reported to work on certain MB's . So Yes in the context of a RAID array I would agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nec_V20 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 No problem RAM GUY, I was just a bit taken aback by the way you originally phrased your reply to me. At the moment I have a RAM Disk set up and it contains my virtual memory and the FireFox browser cache. That cuts down on the writes to my SSD to the tune of well over one and a half gigabytes per day. I'm not yet at the stage of generally recommending it because I have only had it set up for just over two weeks now, however I have not had any crashes, hangs or BSODs. I didn't have so much success assigning the TEMP and the TMP paths to it though. I have started another thread under "Hardware Related (Non Corsair Questions)" called "So I have 24GB of RAM" where I will be reporting back not only the positive but also the negative (if there are any). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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