TrixX Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Just got hold of a shiny new set of Quad Channel Vengeance 2133 DDR 3 RAM. I put it in my shiny new Gigabyte GA-X79-UP4 to test it out and install Windows. To my surprise Windows crashed during install with Page_Fault_In_Non_Paged_Area. This began the RAM testing... First I checked the XMP Profile and compared it to the quoted timings. They didn't match. Not in the slightest. This made me question the XMP Profile... Quoted timings for the RAM on Corsair's site say: 9-11-10-30 (I assume it's a 2T command rate too) XMP Profile had: 9-9-11-27 and 1T command rate. This set off alarm bells and I reset timings down from the XMP to those stated on the site. However this only partially fixed the issue. It still had crashes and misreads. I reduced speeds to 1600 just to get a clean install of Windows. Now I'm here asking WTF is going on with my damn RAM... Reason I'm annoyed is the previous mobo is just being sent back due to failure of multiple systems (audio and BIOS in particular didn't help). The CPU has been tested fine, but some RAM upgrades in the previous motherboard also had massive issues and the RAM eventually also proved to be faulty. I know I'm not the luckiest guy in the world but this is getting ridiculous! I have a set of 1600MHz Vengeance RAM I can test with, but why are the profile timings so badly out on the new stuff! Also what would be the extended settings for an X79 board that would normally be profile set, so I can try to set it manually... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted March 26, 2013 Corsair Employees Share Posted March 26, 2013 I'm sorry for the issues TrixX. Your XMP profile is indeed very different than what it should be. Can you confirm you were using the latest BIOS? If you were, and the memory isn't being very stable even with the correct timings manually inputted, we'd like to get the kit back for inspection (and exchange it to a new kit for you). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixX Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 Using the F2 BIOS, there is an F3p beta BIOS, but wasn't game to give that a go just yet. Can test on that 2mo, but it's kinda hit 4am here now!!! I manually set the timings to 9-11-10-30 2T, but there are a ton of advanced timings that the XMP Profile also alters. These were totally different using the SPD timings vs XMP, but I don't have the full correct XMP to base it on to my knowledge. Kinda a rock and a hard place atm!!! Using SPD with the only known section of timings stated above it was unstable. Do you have the full correct XMP profile for these so I can test? P.S. Thanks for the replacement offer, will take it up if these prove flawed ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixX Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share Posted March 27, 2013 Here's two pics of my mobo spec and the reported ram timings from within CPU-Z. Will update to the beta F3p BIOS to see if that changes the timing detection for XMP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixX Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share Posted March 27, 2013 With the F3p BIOS there was a difference in detection of XMP Profile. This time it detected 9-11-20-27 2T, which is close. I changed 27 to 30 to match recommended spec and will run a stability test now. CPU-Z still detects the XMP-2132 profile at 9-12-11-28 2T reading from the modules. It reads the BIOS settings fine though and reports 9-11-10-30 2T as per what is currently set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixX Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share Posted March 27, 2013 Well that didn't stay stable long. Lasted approx 6hrs before everything went pear shaped and got stuck in a reboot cycle. Lowering speeds to 1600MHz from 2133 stopped the reboot cycle. Unfortunately I'm away for the next few days, so can't test further until I get back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixX Posted April 28, 2013 Author Share Posted April 28, 2013 Well updated. I got the board to boot with 2133 and stay stable for a day. Next day refused to boot with the same settings. Settings were: 2133MHz @ 1.5v 11-12-12-32-180 2T Currently running: 1866MHz @ 1.5v 11-12-12-32-180 2T This runs stable but is decidedly lower performance than I was expecting from a rig that's cost me about $1000 for CPU, Mobo and RAM so far... I'm starting to consider that the problem is the CPU's Memory controller as it's unable to handle 2133MHz with even a single stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanutz94 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Trixx if you haven't had those replaced yet, i would just take RamGuy up on is offer to do so. Since he acknowledged that those XMP profile was flawed i'm willing to bet that the memory is the whole of your issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted April 29, 2013 Corsair Employees Share Posted April 29, 2013 Let me know if you submit a ticket and I'll set you with a special RMA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixX Posted May 14, 2013 Author Share Posted May 14, 2013 Thanks for the reply mate. Sorry I haven't got back before, but things got hectic. I have since had the opportunity to test those modules in another Gigabyte X79S-UP5 board and they are definitely having issues. Both boards refused to boot with them in the black module slots. When in the grey slots both were unstable. Further testing over the last week or so have also shown 1866 to be unstable and now non-bootable, and now having issues at 1600. I will be happy to take your offer of the RMA :) EDIT: Ticket added #6017534 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted May 15, 2013 Corsair Employees Share Posted May 15, 2013 W e are working on this now and you should get an email from our customer service with a different RMA number to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixX Posted May 15, 2013 Author Share Posted May 15, 2013 Thanks RAM GUY :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixX Posted June 19, 2013 Author Share Posted June 19, 2013 Just an update RAM GUY, I didn't return the RAM yet for one reason. It started working at the proper XMP timings. I think there was a fault with the motherboard BIOS. After conducting a 2 day test on the machine in all sorts of configurations, I was 3 tests into a set of 4 and it was giving incorrect results still, then on the fourth it suddenly gave the correct results. As I wanted to confirm these I did a further 6hrs of tests and it confirmed the setup was now working correctly. I still have no idea what actually triggered the fix, but it did and the RAM has worked flawlessly since. Currently running it's XMP profile @ 2000MHz instead of 2133 due to a BClk strap of 1.25. Apologies for not letting you know sooner ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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