Hawkeye1 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I don't know what (if anything) else you might be running to cause conflicts on your Asus machine, DevilSun (although I suppose that's a question for troubleshooting AI Suite rather than Link), but Hawkeye1 has - at the least - Link and AIS probing his hardware sensors (which sounds dirtier than it should) and possibly fighting for control of some of the fans as well. One package or another getting the occasional nonsense value wouldn't be at all surprising, and AIS seems to have something of a hair trigger for its warnings. Actually, I had disabled AI Suite's control of all of the fans, since none of them were plugged into the board still while running Link. It simply ran in the background monitoring temps and voltages. I've seen plenty of erratic results when one monitoring suite trips over another on the same sensor - and running three separate monitoring packages could definitely increase the chances of that - but I don't recall seeing matching blips like this across multiple packages when it happens. Exactly why I checked it with Speccy as well. All the hardware temps were reading the same as AI Suite at the time, so it's doubtful that anything was problematic with either of them. While this was going on, Link was reporting normal, but slightly higher, temps (aside from the MB, since it doesn't monitor that for some reason). One of the more obvious changes between 2.2 and 2.3.x is that it's now using libraries from Open Hardware Monitor. I'm not yet sure to what extent they're being used, but I suspect it was a drop-in to handle (at least) the stock non-Link sensors. It might be worthwhile (read: a great way to waste time) to see if any of the problems can be replicated by running Open Hardware Monitor instead of CorsairLink. Any problems that can be narrowed down to that lib can be fixed or worked around without waiting for Corsair to do something about Link. Someone else would have to check into this, as I've removed Link and probably won't be reinstalling it any time soon, knowing Corsair's track-record with this IP. Of course, checking into this sort of stuff would be Corsair's job in the first place, but either their software development department is understaffed or uncaring. I won't argue with most of these - Link has a remarkably impressive assortment of issues - Impressive is an understatement. but, especially in the same breath as AI Suite, I wouldn't include 'bloated' as one of them, beyond the usual .NET tendency in that direction (and maybe the sheer size and amount of wasted space in the UI). That's one area (along with 'mostly working right', of course) where AI Suite definitely has it beat. When I say "bloated", I mean slow, lumbering, and in other words behaves like it has far too much coding to work through just to do what it's been designed to do. Then again, I don't know anything about coding, so don't quote me on that. That particular package isn't one I'd ever hold up as a paragon of clean, streamlined, or focused design, and - up until I encountered Link - it actually seemed to me like a great example of what happens when hardware companies try to do software (outsourcing, guys! it's not always a bad thing)... Before AI Suite (and this computer), I didn't have any monitoring software (aside from what Speccy provides), so I couldn't say anything about how AI Suite stands up to others. All I can say is that I found it easy to work with ever since I first opened it after starting this computer for the first time. And then, of course, there's AI Suite's truly awful interface design - Link doesn't exactly shine in that department either, but it lacks the feel of a UI lifted from a mid-90s adventure game. Still, it does manage to usually do what it's meant to do, which is something Link is still aspiring to. I feel the apt word here is functional, which is all I (and many others) ask in a program like this. I rather it look like a piece of software from the 90's and work than look futuristic and be unusable. I think Corsair focused far too much on how the UI looked for Link. Sure, it's pleasing to look at, but it's barely functional, almost to the point that after months of having it installed, I grew too concerned it was going to damage something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACP Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Hi ramguy This new version is conflicting with my intel desktop utilities monitoring software .... I got a alert of 90 degrees celcious but core temp was showing max 70... Should this be a concern? Did my cpu actually hit 90? It never showed me that alert before with 2.2 . Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Just a Quick Update. As Hawkeye posted above I am also getting strange Voltage fluctuation warnings from my Asus AI suite program, probably not a deal breaker but being as ASUS is one of the biggest Motherboard makers around probably something corsair should look into fixing the next go around. Actually, if you read some of the ASUS forums, you'll learn that AI Suite is problematical, itself. I happened to come across a thread today that, inexplicably, solved not only my spurious weird temp and voltage issues but more than doubled my WAN throughput! The solution was using another MB monitoring application (CoreTemp, Open Hardware Monitor or Speedfan) and preventing AI Suite and most of its Services from running -- or uninstalling it altogether. It is not a good idea to run more than one monitoring application anyway. They can conflict with one another. Finding the sweet spot to match your particular needs is the key. It's yet another instance of figuring that the company that makes a great product would produce rock solid software to interact with it as well. Not always the case, unfortunately. Hardware? Great. Software? Room for improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 My new machine at work, running Windows 8 x64 has had these ASUS voltage fluctuations from DAY ONE and have never had Corsair Link installed on that system, as it's not running Corsair cooling product. The AI suite temperature and voltage fluctuates and reads incorrectly all day, even reporting sub-zero temperatures and zero voltage at times. I've seen this, too. That's what set me on the trail to find the culprit. Thought at first that my new MBs were bad. BUT, a P9X79 Deluxe/I7-3930K and a P8Z77-V Pro Thunderbolt/I7-3770K are different animals. Yes, they are both ASUS and both Intel but there is one common denominator: AI Suite. Running all sorts of test between various monitoring applications, and all of them reporting valid values, I came to the conclusion that AIS is the problem. See my previous post on that. Since taking it out of the mix, everything has settled down and the box is faster, to boot. Give it a shot.... couldn't get a whole lot worse, unless of course your CPU gets fried. Standard disclaimers apply but it works here. Still have some clicking fans to RMA but that's trivial compared to 260C and -60C MB temps! AND I'm not saying that CL doesn't need major improvements; because it DOES! The demise of Sierra2 is a big step in the right direction. That darn thing hammering my SSD was really hacking me off. Keep goin', guys! Having SW that matches the finish and polish of your hardware will be a great thing! (The opening of my 650D, AX1200i, H100i and Dominator boxes were a delight, as was assembling the whole workstation. Providing software that complements and completes this operation can only be viewed as a Good Thing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJSEJS Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Without the Corsair Link software is my H80i much quieter and cools much better (Prime95 (4 hour ) 3770K@ 4100Mhz - Core Temp version 1.0 > idle: 23-22-23-22 Max: 67-68-68-66). The H80i is directly connected to my Z77X-D3H motherboard, and in the bios the CPU fan speed on normal. I'll wait until the corsair links software really works... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Exactly how are you hooking this up? Do the H80i fans spin up when the CPU is under load? I'm getting tired of the CL software hitting my SSD every second; specifically CorsairLINK_HardwareMonitor.exe. The 2.3.x version, even though Sierra2 service is no longer present, still hits the drive every second and writes to tempmap.dat. Sierra2 dlls are in the installed directory, so it is readily apparent that things have just been shuffled around and renamed but the functionality is the same. I don't want logging turned on, period. No way to shut it off and no way to even choose where the SW is installed; which any respectable SW should do. EVERYBODY has an infinite C:\ drive, don't they? NO ONE has SSDs as their C:\, do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTXJackBauer Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Exactly how are you hooking this up? Do the H80i fans spin up when the CPU is under load? I'm getting tired of the CL software hitting my SSD every second; specifically CorsairLINK_HardwareMonitor.exe. The 2.3.x version, even though Sierra2 service is no longer present, still hits the drive every second and writes to tempmap.dat. Sierra2 dlls are in the installed directory, so it is readily apparent that things have just been shuffled around and renamed but the functionality is the same. I don't want logging turned on, period. No way to shut it off and no way to even choose where the SW is installed; which any respectable SW should do. EVERYBODY has an infinite C:\ drive, don't they? NO ONE has SSDs as their C:\, do they? No wonder I noticed my CPU usage as before. Thought the thrashing was gone but I guess not. I notice every second even right now at this moment my CPU usage going from 5-10% every sec on average. Still fighting for control with the Link to my fans and pumps and on and off rattling noises from the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJSEJS Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Exactly how are you hooking this up? Same as with the Corsair Link software, see manual of the H80i. I have only the CorsairLink software removed. Do the H80i fans spin up when the CPU is under load? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BytesMage Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 I have the same problem, it seems to be running but it doesn't show up. Running this on an Asus M4A88T-I Deluxe... Edit: On Windows 8 64 bit! Edit2: It does now! Ran the hardware monitor first then started the exe! Same here but only on my non admin users. If I log in as admin I can click the CL2 exe and it works. For some reason the CL2 exe does not call the Hardware monitor exe when started from a non admin account when using runas admin. Win 7 64 on Asus Maximus V Extreme, 3770k. Also I am still gettting SSD thrasing from the Dongle. The dongle flashes red constantly and I can see my SSD light up each time. I do not have commander. I have AX1200i PSU with dongle. I have H100 but do not have commander with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 You can set a Junction or Symlink from the normal target location on the SSD to a standard HDD. The file it is writing to is: %system drive%\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Corsair\tempmap.dat Symlink or Junction from there to any location on a different drive and directory of your choice and the SSD thrashing will cease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jan54 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Hi Speed, can you explain how to do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 I do it through commandline but an easier way is to get Link Shell Extension: http://schinagl.priv.at/nt/hardlinkshellext/hardlinkshellext.html or Junction from Systinternals: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896768.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BytesMage Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I have used junctions at work for things many times. That would do it. But the real issue should be resolved not workaround from us forum members. Thank you Speed. The other issue with the new version is for me as an AX1200i owner is besides the Hardware monitor exe not starting on login (which should be fixed if it is offered as part of the SW) Which I do prefer to start myself anyway is the PSU fan now does not spin up under load anymore. I was running Prime custom 90% of memory with Sum and error checking with several programs running and CL SW running and the fan never spun up at all. I was at (In CL SW) 50c on the PSU and no fan activity except the little "Are you awake" movement it does every few seconds. The PSU Case was very warm. I got tired after several hours of this and put the fan on Fixed 40% then went to desktop to have the fan start up. Oh yeah that needs to be fixed. When you click save the fan should spin. You shouldn't have to click out of it for it to take effect. I realize that my AX1200i dongle attached hardware is not where Corsair is putting their money in regards to the CL SW, but I am still a paying customer whether or not I have purchased a commander link. Heck I also have an H100 too and a Corsair SSD. But these issues really get me. Please fix Corsair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasted Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Check Task Scheduler and see if the Corsair LINK UI and Hardware Monitor is listed there. If it is, make sure it's set to start on logon with the highest privileges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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