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HP m377n And Value Select?


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:confused: Hi, I just purchased a VS1GBKIT400C3 which is sold as PC3200, but my HP m377n Machine reports PC2100 on boot?!? My TwinX kit reported fine, but I've moved that to a new homebuilt system where I could select the timings. I have no control over the memory settings on the HP (Which is using an Intel 865PE based ASUS MB), so I'm stuck with SPD settings. Thats fine, and is the reason I went for the value select. If I can't tweak, then whats the point of buying Top of the Line RAM? Anyway, does anyone know why my BIOS is reporting only PC2100? Isn't the PC3200 reported in SPD? This is annoying as I removed 512M PC2700 RAM to replace with this kit, thinking I would get my 200MHz memory + upgrade to 1Gig. Thanks! Barry
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[quote name='Wired']What CPU / FSB do you have? What is the version # of the memory?[/QUOTE] Sorry, I thought that was clear. CPU is 2.6GHz running at 800MHz FSB. I'm not sure I know what you mean by "version" # of the memory. Its Corsair Value Select, VS1GBKIT400C3, Lot # 0426120-0. Everest (AIDA32) shows the SPD saying its PC3200, so I don't for the life of me understand what the BIOS is insisting its PC2100...
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I would suggest that you update to [URL=http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?product=384965&sw_lang=8&os=228&cc=us&lc=en&dlc=&softwareitem=pv-20200-1]bios version 1.07N[/URL] or newer if you have not done so and then load setup defaults and see if that will solve the problem, and you would not be able to mix the memory that came with your system!
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[quote name='RAM GUY']I would suggest that you update to [URL=http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?product=384965&sw_lang=8&os=228&cc=us&lc=en&dlc=&softwareitem=pv-20200-1]bios version 1.07N[/URL] or newer if you have not done so and then load setup defaults and see if that will solve the problem, and you would not be able to mix the memory that came with your system![/QUOTE] Thanks, But the latest BIOS for the HP m377n is version 3.25 which I've already upgraded (Back in May). I've also loaded the setup defaults and still the BIOS see PC2100. I've contacted HP and they are working on the issue as well. Any further ideas would be appreciated! Thanks Barry PS: Yes, I know I can't mix the existing with the new. I pulled the two 256M PC2700 modules and replaced with the two 512M PC3200s in the Value Select kit.... Here is the report from Everest (formerly AIDA32) -------[ EVEREST Home Edition (c) 2003, 2004 Lavalys, Inc. ]------- Version EVEREST v1.10.106 Homepage [url]http://www.lavalys.com/[/url] Report Type Report Wizard Computer HP-M377N-MCE (HP m377n Media Center PC) Generator Administrator Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional 5.1.2600 (WinXP Retail) Date 2004-07-29 Time 17:03 --------[ Motherboard ]----------------------------------- Motherboard Properties: Motherboard ID 63-0325-000001-00101111-042704-SPDALE_G$PSLA1122 Motherboard Name Asus P4SD-LA Front Side Bus Properties: Bus Type Intel NetBurst Bus Width 64-bit Real Clock 100 MHz (QDR) Effective Clock 400 MHz Bandwidth 3200 MB/s Memory Bus Properties: Bus Type Dual DDR SDRAM Bus Width 64-bit Real Clock 133 MHz (DDR) Effective Clock 267 MHz Bandwidth 4267 MB/s Chipset Bus Properties: Bus Type Intel Hub Interface Bus Width 8-bit Real Clock 67 MHz (QDR) Effective Clock 267 MHz Bandwidth 267 MB/s Motherboard Manufacturer: Company Name ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Product Information [url]http://www.asus.com/products/mb/mbindex.htm[/url] BIOS Download [url]http://www.asus.com/support/download/download.aspx[/url] --------[ SPD ]----------------------------------------------- [ Corsair VS512MB400 ] Memory Module Properties: Module Name Corsair VS512MB400 Serial Number None Module Size 512 MB (2 rows, 4 banks) Module Type Unbuffered Memory Type DDR SDRAM Memory Speed PC3200 (200 MHz) Module Width 64 bit Module Voltage SSTL 2.5 Error Detection Method None Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us), Self-Refresh Highest CAS Latency 2.5 (5.0 ns @ 200 MHz) Memory Module Features: Early RAS# Precharge Not Supported Auto-Precharge Not Supported Precharge All Not Supported Write1/Read Burst Not Supported Buffered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported Registered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported On-Card PLL (Clock) Not Supported Buffered DQMB Inputs Not Supported Registered DQMB Inputs Not Supported Differential Clock Input Supported Redundant Row Address Not Supported Memory Module Manufacturer: Company Name Corsair Memory, Inc. Product Information [url]http://www.corsairmicro.com/main/products.htm[/url]
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[quote name='RAM GUY']If you install the memory that came with your system, is it running at DDR333?[/QUOTE] No, the original 512M PC2700 RAM (2 x 256M) is recognized as PC2100. I had read somewhere that this was a known issue when running with 800MHz FSB and PC2700 RAM. However, I was under the impression that this shouldn't occur with PC3200 RAM, and I thought the speed was determined by the parameter as read from the SPD. Is the speed determined from some other setting(s) from SPD? If so, why would the HP see the Value Select PC3200 as PC2700 RAM, and so invoke this issue? I originally bought an XMS TWINX 1Gig set of PC3200 for the m377n and it was indeed recognized correctly as PC3200....BUT I couldn't adjust the timings. So when I built a new system with an Abit AI7 Mainboard, I moved that RAM to the new system...where I've been able to tweak the timings appropriately (2-3-3-6)...I couldn't do that on the HP, since it doesn't allow you to change ANY memory settings at all. Since I'd never be able to get the full benefit of the more expensive XMS on the HP, I figured I'd just try to get full 400MHz DDR performance on the 800MHz FSB and at the same time upgrade to 1Gig by purchasing the Value Select PC3200 and living with slower timings. Below is the Everest Report for the original RAM: [ EVEREST Home Edition (c) 2003, 2004 Lavalys, Inc. ]---------------------- Version EVEREST v1.10.106 Homepage [url]http://www.lavalys.com/[/url] Report Type Report Wizard Computer HP-M377N-MCE (HP m377n Media Center PC) Generator Administrator Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional 5.1.2600 (WinXP Retail) Date 2004-07-30 Time 06:18 --------[ Motherboard ]------------------------------------------------- Motherboard Properties: Motherboard ID 63-0325-000001-00101111-042704-SPDALE_G$PSLA1122 Motherboard Name Asus P4SD-LA Front Side Bus Properties: Bus Type Intel NetBurst Bus Width 64-bit Real Clock 100 MHz (QDR) Effective Clock 400 MHz Bandwidth 3200 MB/s Memory Bus Properties: Bus Type Dual DDR SDRAM Bus Width 64-bit Real Clock 133 MHz (DDR) Effective Clock 267 MHz Bandwidth 4267 MB/s Chipset Bus Properties: Bus Type Intel Hub Interface Bus Width 8-bit Real Clock 67 MHz (QDR) Effective Clock 267 MHz Bandwidth 267 MB/s Motherboard Manufacturer: Company Name ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Product Information [url]http://www.asus.com/products/mb/mbindex.htm[/url] BIOS Download [url]http://www.asus.com/support/download/download.aspx[/url] --------[ SPD ]---------------------------------------------------------- [ Infineon 64D32300GU6B ] Memory Module Properties: Module Name Infineon 64D32300GU6B Serial Number 0172D811h Module Size 256 MB (1 rows, 4 banks) Module Type Unbuffered Memory Type DDR SDRAM Memory Speed PC2700 (166 MHz) Module Width 64 bit Module Voltage SSTL 2.5 Error Detection Method None Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us), Self-Refresh Highest CAS Latency 2.5 (6.0 ns @ 166 MHz) 2nd Highest CAS Latency 2.0 (7.5 ns @ 133 MHz) Memory Module Features: Early RAS# Precharge Not Supported Auto-Precharge Not Supported Precharge All Not Supported Write1/Read Burst Not Supported Buffered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported Registered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported On-Card PLL (Clock) Not Supported Buffered DQMB Inputs Not Supported Registered DQMB Inputs Not Supported Differential Clock Input Supported Redundant Row Address Not Supported Memory Module Manufacturer: Company Name Infineon Technologies AG Product Information [url]http://www.infineon.com/cgi/ecrm.dll/ecrm/scripts/prod_cat.jsp?oid=-8003[/url]
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According to this you are running your CPU at 400 MHz not 800 MHz! I would check that your CPU is running as it should! If you have a 400 FSB CPU then it would run the memory at DDR266 and that would make sense!
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