kuebk Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 So finally I bought F3 120gb ssd for my dad drive. The hdd which was in the notebook had 3 partitions: diag, recovery and some kind of multimedia ********ion for alternative boot. I've cloned all these 3 partitions to the ssd drive and created new 4th partition for the system. Reinstalled the Vista, installed all available updates and service packs. Also installed latest possible drivers. And the ssd performance is not much better than 5400 hdd performance which was previously in this notebook. And I started to get freezes when coming back from sleep mode. So my problems are: 1. poor performance compared to 5400rpm hdd, haven't noticed very big performance gain 2. freezes when coming back from sleep mode What I've done so far: - AHCI in BIOS - Updated bios to newest version - Reinstalled system - Installed all windows updates and service packs - Installed newest version of Intel Matrix Storage (can't install Rapid Storage Technology because setup says: "hardware is not compatible") Driver versions: Intel® ICH8M-E/M SATA AHCI Controller, version: 8.9.0.1023, date: 2009-06-04 Hardware is: Dell Inspiron 1525, service tag: HVLR04J Corsair Force3 120gb, firmware version: 1.3.3 Screenshot: http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/4189/f3120performance.jpg Test was done on maximum performance profile. Looking forward to get any help, thanks. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madnisman Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Hi, first of all, please use ATTO benchmark and post your results. This is the only benchmark tool to compare your speeds with advertised speeds. The GM965/ICH8M chipset supports only SATA2 connection, you will never see the advertised SATA3 speeds with this notebook. Regarding your sleep issues, maybe these stickys might help: http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=94439 http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=95875 As this chipset was released more than 4 years ago, there might be compatibility issues with modern, high-performance SSDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuebk Posted December 28, 2011 Author Share Posted December 28, 2011 Yes, I know controller only supports SATA2 and that's what I'm expecting from this ssd. Here is ATTO: http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3426/f3120atto.jpg EDIT: Reinstalled Intel INF with overall switch what give me new AHCI driver version: 7.0.0.1013 dated: 2010-06-08 with following results: http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7830/f3120drivers.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madnisman Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 ATTO benchmark looks fine, that are the supposed speeds for SATA2. The first one looks even better. - Installed newest version of Intel Matrix Storage (can't install Rapid Storage Technology because setup says: "hardware is not compatible") Which version did you try to install? I have an Acer laptop with Intel GM965/ICH8M chipset, Intel RST 10.1.0.1008 runs fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuebk Posted December 28, 2011 Author Share Posted December 28, 2011 Yea I know that ATTO looks fine but imo the disk doesn't perform as it should. When I was moving in my desktop PC from 2x 7200rpm hdds in raid 0 to Force 60gb (basen on SF-12xx) the performance gain was enermous (mobo is Rampage Formula), in notebook I don't see a big difference between ssd and 5400rpm hdd. I've tried to install latest RST available on Intel Download Center, will try your version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovk Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Dont for get Laptops chipsets are always going to fall behind a desktops its the same with every think really cpu, gpu, chipset, controllers, ram these are all mobile low power parts which don't perform any were close to a desktops counter part, those scores look normal for a SATA 2 laptop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuebk Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 As I said before scores look fine, but I can't see a difference in how fast things are done between hdd and ssd in this notebook and that's not fine for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasted Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 There is no difference in boot times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsec Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 As I said before scores look fine, but I can't see a difference in how fast things are done between hdd and ssd in this notebook and that's not fine for me. What do you mean by how fast things are done? Do you mean in general, or performing a specific task, using certain software, gaming, or what? The 4k benches are rather low, but given what the 4k benches for a 5400 RPM drive would be, easily ten times slower, it's surprising that the performance would be the same using either drive. Since this laptop uses the ICH8M, it is relatively old, and I suspect the issue is with the chipset, as well as what is set in the BIOS by the manufacture (Dell) that is not accessible by the user. For example, the following is from the ICH8M datasheet: The ICH8 has integrated SATA host controllers that supports independent DMA operation on up to six ports (desktop only) or three ports (mobile only) and supports data transfer rates of up to 3.0 Gb/s (300 MB/s). The SATA controller contains two modes of operation – a legacy mode using I/O space, and an AHCI mode using memory space. SATA and PATA (Mobile only) can also be used in a combined function mode (where the SATA function is used with PATA). In this combined function mode, AHCI mode is not used. Software that uses legacy mode will not have AHCI capabilities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuebk Posted December 30, 2011 Author Share Posted December 30, 2011 There is no difference in boot times? I don't see difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuebk Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 ATTO benchmark looks fine, that are the supposed speeds for SATA2. The first one looks even better. Which version did you try to install? I have an Acer laptop with Intel GM965/ICH8M chipset, Intel RST 10.1.0.1008 runs fine. Ok, I've downloaded and installed that version. Here are the results: http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/552/39396775.jpg The driver version is 10.1.0.1008 and is dated: 2010-11-06. Are results ok now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madnisman Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Results ok, the transfer speed for 0.5-32 KB has improved greatly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuebk Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 Yea, but the system boot doesn't improved at all. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synbios Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I think you will see a strong performance increase if you upgrade to windows 7. Windows 7 aligns SSDs better and also supports TRIM. Win7 also has a host of performance improvements over vista. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsec Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 OMG, Vista, I just noticed that! So let's see, Vista (always slow booting), probably 32 bit and no TRIM, maybe 2GB of memory, who knows what CPU among those available (dual core, most sub-2GHz), seemingly weird implementation of the ICH8 (tests with the stock HDD were below 40MB/s at best), and to sum up, it's an older laptop. It's a miracle it benches as well as it does, but real world is another story. Not the SSDs fault, and to many unknowns to diagnose in a forum, not to mention the intrinsic limitations in the PC. No miracle fix exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuebk Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 Synbios what you exacly mean by Win7 alings ssd better? You meant built-in installer format or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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