Steltrucci Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Hey all. Let get to the point. I recently got a new pc. I actually bought single parts piece by piece. On my system specs you can see the items. Does my motherboard (gigabyte 970A-D3) supports the Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB, CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9) ? cause i have face the following problems and my pc is working less than 2 days, meaning that is brand new. Well first, my pc automaticaly drops down the FSB from 1600 to 1333. I cant increase it to 1600, i do it from BIOS but my pc dont boot up and just drops them down again. Also i have blue screen messages while i was playing Battlefield 3. I wrote down the messages that i saw on the blue screen and they are the following (just in case they mean something that is related to a possible incompatibility). blue screen message 1 --> ".....usually thi is memory being freed.This is usually caused by a device that has not cleaned up." message 2--> BAD_POOL_HEADER message 3---> QUOTA_UNDERFLOW that was my questions... i just wanna know if my mobo and my memories are compatible or not.. and if the issues with the fsb and the blue screen errors are related to that. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlawlessSoul Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 They are compatible, but to achieve the DDR3-1600 speed, the memory is clocked higher than the board officially supports. This overclock requires more voltage for the memory, so you will want to change the memory "profile" in the BIOS - you'll likely have a few options depending on how it reads the SPD but it'll probably also list the related voltages (my Gigabyte board, for example, displays an option to select the Extreme Memory Profile "XMP" which then sets the QPI and Memory voltages up higher). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steltrucci Posted December 14, 2011 Author Share Posted December 14, 2011 Thanx for the info my friend. By the way i think that the XMP is only available for Intel chipsets. And not for AMDs. But ill check it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlawlessSoul Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 XMP is an extension of the memory SPD standard, where the memory itself can specify timings. I've not used an AMD system in the past few years, so I can't tell you if they even bother to support SPD/EPP/XMP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanutz94 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 XMP is intel only. AMD mus be set manually and anything over stock speeds you must overclock the processor. However your processor supports 1866mhz RAM right out of the box. So you really shouldn't have any issues. running them in that system. I would test each stick individually with memtest in the first slot to be sure one of the modules are not failing and then go from there. P.S. I'm going to have Wired move this to the correct forum so it will be easier to keep track of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steltrucci Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 I did mem test on the memories and both were fine. Its just that i cant make them work on 1600. I do configure all the bios presets manually but i cant see a result on it in order to make em work on 1600. Maybe i miss something. Dunno. By the way is it a big difference between 1333 and 1600 fsb ? i mean.. will i see any major difference on my pc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanutz94 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I do configure all the bios presets manually but i cant see a result on it in order to make em work on 1600 Sorry , could you explain this a little better. I'm just not sure what you mean by you cant see a result. Is it not showing in your BIOS or other HW monitoring software as being 1600q? Can you post a screen shot of the MEM and SPD tab of CPU-z AFTER you make the BIOS changes for 1600mhz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steltrucci Posted December 22, 2011 Author Share Posted December 22, 2011 I mean that i did the changes in the bios in order to make them work on 1600. I went on the 1600 option and i selected it. The voltages and all the rest options were set to auto if i remember right. So i just saved options and rebooted. The pc couldnt boot. I ll try to get a screenshot of all the screen messages that i get. By the way. I would like to tell me if there is going to be major changes if i run my memories on 1600 rather on 1333. I play online games such as star wars online etc. What is the difference between 1600 and 1333 ? Is it worth it for me to get em up on 1600? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanutz94 Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 With your system it wont make that much of a difference. If they run fine at 1333mhz and your games run fine at that frequency then leave them there. However i would contact Gigabyte and tell them whats going on because that MB/CPU should allow you to run at 1866 let alone 1600 with out an issue. The RAM seems fine, so it has to be another issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steltrucci Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share Posted December 23, 2011 i got my answer... http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,2515.0.html "It is due to the Memory Controller on the AM3 CPU's which, by design, are set for 1333 Mhz memory modules or slower." Damn.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted December 23, 2011 Corsair Employees Share Posted December 23, 2011 This is great information but it pertains to Phenom CPU's the FX CPU you have should be able to run at DDR1600, so I would check for the latest MB BIOS then load setup defaults and set the tested setting as listed on the modules except I have seen some cases where the memory voltage needs to be set to 1.6-1.7 Volts on some of these CPU's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steltrucci Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 Yes just noticed.. im not on AM3.. im on AM3+ and second, yes i do have FX not phenom so.. that wasnt the problem as it seems. Well i did update the BIOS. When i got my pc i had some major problems cause it couldnt boot at all. When i did some test with some friends, pc technicians, we realized that the cpu was brand new (FX6100), and the mobo couldnt work on its current BIOS. So we did the latest BIOS update otherwise the FX cpu couldnt even start working. So we manage to solve this. Today i saw a major issue. My pc got blue screen with the message "MEMORY_MANAGEMENT". I didnt pay attention to it a lot. Then i got that msg again 2-3 time. I did a mem test few hours later on the corsair rams. Both failed hard. I tried to mem test them individually to see which one of the 2 was failing. First i did mem test to the one of em.. i saw full red errros early on, on the 1% testing proccess. It just failed through the whole test. The second ram was cool untill it reached up to 2gb usage and then it failed too, red error. So i m guessing.. maybe i was unlucky on these specific ram units. They might be bad from the very begining. Cause seriously, i cant figure out why the never managed to work on higher fsb as they supposed to! I really dont know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanutz94 Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Nope , if both dimms fail memtest at any point in the test then you have issues somewhere else. All modules are tested before they leave the factory so the posibilty of getting one bad dimm let alone two is astronomical. Have you verified timings and voltages? If they all look good, then i would get in contact with the MB manufacturer and see what they have to say about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steltrucci Posted December 25, 2011 Author Share Posted December 25, 2011 I dont get it.. If memories fail during the mem test, then why i have issues somewhere else? what do u mean? Isnt that the memories failing? if not.. and if they are ok.. then why the fail on the mem test? When i had issues with the MB and the cpu i did sent the MB and cpu at the store that i bought em.. They tested both of em on that specific issue that i had at that point. But i guess, they would have seen problems on memories while they were testing the pc. But the pc was ok at the begining! What else can cause memories to fail or pop up blue screens if not memories themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanutz94 Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 I dont get it.. If memories fail during the mem test, then why i have issues somewhere else? what do u mean? Isnt that the memories failing? if not.. and if they are ok.. then why the fail on the mem test? What else can cause memories to fail or pop up blue screens if not memories themselves? All modules are tested before they leave the factory so the posibilty of getting one bad dimm let alone two is astronomical. If BOTH dimms are failing memtest then it HAS to be another issue. It could be voltages , timings and any number of other issues. It is basically impossible to get two bad DIMMs out of one kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted December 26, 2011 Corsair Employees Share Posted December 26, 2011 In the 20+ years I have been working with computers I have only seen that happen twice and in both cases the MB was bad and caused the failure. In addition if you have a bad module they will normally fail no matter what frequency or voltage you run them at, so if you can set the memory frequency at DDR1333 and they pass then for sure it is not the memory. Have you spoke to the MB maker or AMD to get their opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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