DS-Fallen Angel Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Hi there, I'm not the most tech savy person in the world so please try to Lamanise your replies. I have recently tried installing Win 7 64 onto my new Force 3 120. I was informed the best way to do this was unplug the SATA cable to my existing hard drive (don't have more than one) set the Bios Jmicron RAID controler to AHCI mode and perform a full install from booting the CD rom first. The installation was quite long and I then proceeded with the 98 updates for the OS this took quite a while as every few minutes of hard drive activity the OS would hang for about 10-20 seconds. I chose to try and fix this performance issue by updating my bios from 1104 to 1402 ( the latest on the ASUS site ) had to use EZ flash 2 since ASUSupdate didn't want to do it. no problems from that and the performance issues remained ( along with the hangs ). I then proceeded to install the JMB36X Controller V1174714 driver (asus update suggestion) this made a slight increase in the hangs but decreased the hang duration. Next on the list was the NVIDIA Chipset V1546 64 bit drivers (again asus update suggestion) this made the hangs more frequent during hard drive activity. I then noticed that my device manager showed my Force 3 as a SCSI driver "Corsair Force 3 SSD SCSI Disk Device" and the option to Defrag the drive was not replaced by Windows 7's Trim functinality. I assumed the correct drive update would resolve this, so using Yellowbeards Sticky I carefully selected the correct Zip for download, Extracted and ran the utility, unfortunately it refused to aknowledge an SSD was on the system. I am now stuck with not being able to update the firmware and still having major hang troubles from what I beleive to be some sort of curious driver conflict or incompatibility. Please advise, Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamandrew Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 read my post a few below. its still possible it will come up as SCSI if you are not using the onboard INtel controller. Also you might have had to get the F6 Drivers when doing the install of windows, and then chooseing a different driver and connect a usb thumb drive up with the 64bit drivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS-Fallen Angel Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 its still possible it will come up as SCSI if you are not using the onboard INtel controller. As far as I am aware there isn't an intel controller on my mother board. If there was where would I find it? and would it be something in my BIOS? EDIT: your GA-P55-UD4 is an Intel® P55 Express Chipset mine is a NVIDIA nForce 790i Ultra SLI You also have 3 different Sata chip options, JMB362, GIGABYTE and Intel P55 Also you might have had to get the F6 Drivers when doing the install of windows, and then chooseing a different driver and connect a usb thumb drive up with the 64bit drivers What are f6 drivers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasted Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 F6 Drivers from memory, are only provided by Intel for their chipsets. So getting the drivers won't help. You have an Nvidia controller. Some users have reported that the Nvidia controller makes the SSD run on SATA I speeds. To check your SSD performance. Use ATTO. If the benchmarks read/write speeds are low. Then you may consider buying a new motherboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS-Fallen Angel Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 Thank you for clarifying what f6 drivers relate to and I agree they won't be much help to my board. Some users have reported that the Nvidia controller makes the SSD run on SATA I speeds. To check your SSD performance. Use ATTO. If the benchmarks read/write speeds are low. Then you may consider buying a new motherboard. Thank you for your advice but SATA instead of SATA2/3 speeds are not what I am concerned about at the moment, if the drive was performing as well as my old Veloceraptor it would be sufficient to consider the advice, but at present the system is nothing but a ball of frustration with it's frequent and repeating hangs. However a consistant theme here is the Mother board drivers, I also did some research and it would seem Nvidia and J micron are somewhat hopeless when it comes to SSD support and AHCI. I guess it's nice to be an Intel chipset owner at the moment. After chasing down some details I was using the 15.46 Nvidia drivers from the asus download page, It would seem Nvidia has 15.58 as their latest for my chipset OS combination, I will endevor to see if this changes my situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS-Fallen Angel Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 Well, the latest drivers changed nothing. But my recent research did show up a problem with me enabling AHCI on the Jmicron controler in the BIOS, this was pointless as that controller only affects my eSATA ports for external sata drive use. so disabling it was the sensible option. Unfortunately there is no AHCI BIOS option for my board, just IDE or RAID and thanks to NVIDIAs driver support neither will enable TRIM in Win 7 (CUDA vs Direct X rivalry inspired?) So the eventual solution to my Hangs was to shut down my PC and unplug all SATA cables from the board except my drive (so with my rig the ammounts to my BD rom drive and leaving my velociraptor unpluged) once back in windows Open the device manager and select the "IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers" this should show only a single Nvidia labled device among other things, select it and choose to update it's drivers, make sure to specify you will be selecting the driver from a list and the "Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller" is the one to select. A quick second and a reboot later and ZOOOM I go from a 10 minute boot with 4 hangs to a 15 second boot with no further problems other than no TRIM support, the drive also now shows as an SSD and not an SSD SCSI, this also allows the firmware updater to detect it too. So unless there's more hacking n slashing I can do to enable TRIM I am simply going to have to rely on the firmware garbage collection instead of TRIM. In a nutshell If you have a Striker II Extreme seriously consider holding off on that SSD Purchase till you have the funds to upgrade your board to not only take advantage of Trim but also SATA 3 capabilities these lovely Corsair Drives use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS-Fallen Angel Posted November 24, 2011 Author Share Posted November 24, 2011 Quick extra note, I was under the impression the right click properties settings from my drive would remove Defrag and replace it with some sort of TRIM thingy. This seems to be a missconception I had leading me to think TRIM was not enabled after my efforts. To check if TRIM is enabled use Ctrl+R to get the Run menu and type "cmd" this will start command prompt program Type fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify This will respond with DisableDeleteNotify=X If X is 0 TRIM is working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasted Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Try test the SSD on a different computer. See if it does the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS-Fallen Angel Posted November 24, 2011 Author Share Posted November 24, 2011 Try test the SSD on a different computer. See if it does the same thing. Just to clarrify my last post, it was 0 so TRIM is running on my drive. I felt it may be usefull to post the end of my situation incase there are other Striker II users in the same situation or people finding similar issues with non Intel controllers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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