lethal_ghost Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Currently doing my first pc build and decided on a h100 and how i would set it up, either pull cold air from the outside, but exhaust warm air in to the case, or warm air from inside the case pushing hot air out. Both have a downside and i though about what would be best and decided that mounting the radiator out side of the case would get the best of both worlds. I know the hoses dont detach so cutting a slot in the top of the case to slide them in when the side is off and a few bits of ally bent with screw holes in mounted to the top of the case to secure the rad wouldnt be hard to make. So i was wondering has this been done ? couldnt find much on google. Any way thoughts? good or bad idea ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptest100 Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Currently doing my first pc build and decided on a h100 and how i would set it up, either pull cold air from the outside, but exhaust warm air in to the case, or warm air from inside the case pushing hot air out. Both have a downside and i though about what would be best and decided that mounting the radiator out side of the case would get the best of both worlds. I know the hoses dont detach so cutting a slot in the top of the case to slide them in when the side is off and a few bits of ally bent with screw holes in mounted to the top of the case to secure the rad wouldnt be hard to make. So i was wondering has this been done ? couldnt find much on google. Any way thoughts? good or bad idea ? i have done this with an h60. temperatures really dropped compared with an in-case install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethal_ghost Posted October 13, 2011 Author Share Posted October 13, 2011 iv just ordered them, im going to try and mount it horizontal on the top of my case. Supprised that few people have done this seems very easy to do. http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/e/k/ek-uni-rad-holder1_600.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfiregum Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Currently doing my first pc build and decided on a h100 and how i would set it up, either pull cold air from the outside, but exhaust warm air in to the case, or warm air from inside the case pushing hot air out. Both have a downside and i though about what would be best and decided that mounting the radiator out side of the case would get the best of both worlds. I know the hoses dont detach so cutting a slot in the top of the case to slide them in when the side is off and a few bits of ally bent with screw holes in mounted to the top of the case to secure the rad wouldnt be hard to make. So i was wondering has this been done ? couldnt find much on google. Any way thoughts? good or bad idea ? My thoughts on cold air in is you have 2 fans on the h100 or 4 fans. If your inputting this much air into the case you are either warming your other components or the air around your cpu making short term gains, and long term warming if you do not have enough air moving out. My HAFX has the side and front large fans putting in and 1 top large exhausting already and only a 120 on the rear exhausting with the graphics cards, the choice was obvious to push out. The air balance is delicate and even changes when temperature pockets change. Example: my graphics cards at idle run colder at 30% fan speed and idle than 100% fan speed and idle, the extra air draw pulls hot air into them. Obviously this effect does not work when your gpu's are hotter than the surrounding and that "hot" air that heated them when cold is colder than they are then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethal_ghost Posted October 14, 2011 Author Share Posted October 14, 2011 Does any one know the length of the h100 pipes this would help plan where it could go on the outside of the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted October 14, 2011 Corsair Employees Share Posted October 14, 2011 They are about 10-12" long! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiipp Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Ive not put mine outside but my case is partitioned which really helps as the rad can be mounted below with some cutting to feed the pump through. End result will be that im cutting up another piece of aluminium up with cut out at the back just for the pipes so i can totally seal off the bottom section. Please excuse the wiring knowhere near done yet. http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/281/f/4/pc_by_tiptop131176-d4c90bb.jpg This is what i used to mount mine with http://static.scan.co.uk/images/products/1549315-a.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsec Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Currently doing my first pc build and decided on a h100 and how i would set it up, either pull cold air from the outside, but exhaust warm air in to the case, or warm air from inside the case pushing hot air out. Both have a downside and i though about what would be best and decided that mounting the radiator out side of the case would get the best of both worlds. I know the hoses dont detach so cutting a slot in the top of the case to slide them in when the side is off and a few bits of ally bent with screw holes in mounted to the top of the case to secure the rad wouldnt be hard to make. So i was wondering has this been done ? couldnt find much on google. Any way thoughts? good or bad idea ? The hoses are not very long, and depending upon your case, might let you put the radiator outside, but just barely. Then trying to orient the radiator with the fans attached will not be easy, given the amount of slack you'll have with the hoses, very little. Another reason people don't mount it outside the case is because... it looks like crap. Yes, that is an opinion, some will think it's cool that way, but not me. :ummmm: Although it looks like you will be using those brackets to mount the radiator, which will mean very little or zero case-cutting. If you still think you need to, wait for your H100 to arrive, the hose lengths will make or break it's installation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethal_ghost Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 yeah iv realised its the hose length that will decide if it is possible to mount on outside of the case and where if it is possible. Im going for performance looks are second lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicequips Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Look at all that space where your DVD player sits...mount the radiator 4 fan assembly vertically and you will have really good airflow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsec Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 ... The air balance is delicate and even changes when temperature pockets change. Example: my graphics cards at idle run colder at 30% fan speed and idle than 100% fan speed and idle, the extra air draw pulls hot air into them. Obviously this effect does not work when your gpu's are hotter than the surrounding and that "hot" air that heated them when cold is colder than they are then. Good point, I've noticed things like this myself. IMO, the airflow within a PC's case is much more complex than it is generally thought to be. In my experience, the more fans added to a case, particularly in unusual positions, the worse the overall air flow and cooling is. I've improved cooling by removing one or more fans that really should not have been there at all. My CM Storm Sniper case has the same fan configuration as your HAF X, and I find it works very well. A different manufactures case I have with large fans allows one to be mounted on the side, but it works better with two fans exhausting at the top. I have my H60 exhausting air into the case, but the radiator is so close to these exhaust fans (less than an inch, mounted vertically) that the warm air is immediately removed from the case. I would love to see PC case air flow testing, with a clear side panel on the case, and that "smoke" that is used in wind tunnel and other air flow experiments. I'm not sure how good it would work, but I think it would be obvious if a case had a very direct, uninterrupted air flow, in contrast to one that didn't. A smoke filled case that obscured the view of the components would be an example of the latter. I would wager that a down-flow CPU cooler like the stock Intel, and the fan/air flow configuration of most video cards, really disturbs the air flow within a case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethal_ghost Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/jms1289/2011-10-20_1724551.jpg i have cut a hole in the top drop the cpu cooler through im going to put some edging in the cut and when i know how the pis bend im going to put mesh over the hole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicequips Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Wow! Add two more fans and you won't need the brackets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsec Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 That was a good idea, and did not ruin your case since that opening could be covered easily. You could use some clear plastic sheeting, or even some standard screen material, mounted from the inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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