lkhyperx Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 RAM Guy - what do you mean by top end of cpu/mb? Are you referring to the max performance of the motherboard? If so, is there a link that actually features that detail? The A8V Deluxe 939-pin is way too new for anyone to know its max potential. and ixion - right now, do you have your Cool N Quiet feature on or off? Because, after reading your experience, I should download the drivers first, install them, restart the computer, then change the cpu voltage manually to 1.5v and turn on the feature in the motherboard. It seemed like your problems with cpu auto-voltage came up after you enabled your CnQ feature w/o installing the drivers first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 I believe he is referring to stuff that's just not documented, the OC potential of a product. Ultimately only testing will find this limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkhyperx Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 the AI OC option on the bios obviously doesnt work right. Supposedly it can offer up to 30% overall clock, but it doesnt work. Back to some manual tweaking. ixion - im looking forward to your o/c report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted July 26, 2004 Corsair Employees Share Posted July 26, 2004 The auto over clocking option would assume that you have a JEDEC compliant module! I would suggest you use manual settings with any of our modules! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkhyperx Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 What do you guys have under v cpu voltage, by reading cpuz: By manual setting of 1.5v in the 1.006 BIOS for the A8V deluxe. I get a 1.488v-1.504v reading. It goes up and down. edit: I have serious problem in my new thread, so I cleared this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC21 Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 Ok I have an fx53, a8v, and crappy pc3200xlpros. I just want my PC to work. I get the double beeps at the beginning indicating a ram failure. I just want to get into the BIOS and change this. So i just need to change it to like 2.8V. I need to figure out how to update the BIOS too. I've never built a computer before and seemed to have failed. I may just have to sell of my PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixion Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 [quote name='lkhyperx']RAM Guy - what do you mean by top end of cpu/mb? Are you referring to the max performance of the motherboard? If so, is there a link that actually features that detail? The A8V Deluxe 939-pin is way too new for anyone to know its max potential. and ixion - right now, do you have your Cool N Quiet feature on or off? Because, after reading your experience, I should download the drivers first, install them, restart the computer, then change the cpu voltage manually to 1.5v and turn on the feature in the motherboard. It seemed like your problems with cpu auto-voltage came up after you enabled your CnQ feature w/o installing the drivers first.[/QUOTE] My Cool N Quiet is still off. I haven't had time to experiment with it. I'm not 100% sure why my CPU voltage shot up, but it certainly appeared to be related to me turning on the CnQ feature without the drivers. It would be a good idea to do it the way you mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixion Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 [quote name='lkhyperx']the AI OC option on the bios obviously doesnt work right. Supposedly it can offer up to 30% overall clock, but it doesnt work. Back to some manual tweaking. ixion - im looking forward to your o/c report.[/QUOTE] Sorry. I haven't had time to play around with OCing yet. Plus I'm out of town all of next week, so it might be a while. If anyone else has experimented, please post your results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted July 28, 2004 Corsair Employees Share Posted July 28, 2004 RC21, If the system will not post at all I would try testing the memory in another system one module at a time, but all of our modules are tested on a MB at their rated settings before they leave our factory, so it would be really had to get 2 bad modules! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixion Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 [quote name='RC21']Ok I have an fx53, a8v, and crappy pc3200xlpros. I just want my PC to work. I get the double beeps at the beginning indicating a ram failure. I just want to get into the BIOS and change this. So i just need to change it to like 2.8V. I need to figure out how to update the BIOS too. I've never built a computer before and seemed to have failed. I may just have to sell of my PC.[/QUOTE] You can use ASUS EZ FLASH. Just download BIOS v1006 from ASUS web site. Rename it A8V.ROM (must be this exact name) and copy the file to a floppy and insert it into your A8V system. When you PC is booting, during the POTS (during the ASUS screen) just press <ALT-F2> and the system will update the BIOS automatically from the floppy. Then go in and modify your RAM values (see my previous posts on this for the values that seem to work for most people). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimerol Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 got my system back. decided to replace the a8v with giga-byte's k8nsnxp-939, same fx-53 and 3200xlpro. wd sata and pny 6800 gt. big thermaltake hsf, with the delta fan pushing 88 cfm's. runs 15c idle in my thermaltake xaser super case. ran artic silver 5 in the cpu, and disassembled the 6800gt's hsf and ran artic silver 5 on that gpu. drops the temp 5-10 degrees. enermax 600w psu, audigy 2 zs. no real overclocking yet but here's what works for me, ran memtest no problems: 205 fsb 2-2-2-5 (set manually) disabled 2-t command (set manually) cpu volts 1.55 (set manually) ddr voltage +.2 which should be 2.7v (set manually) 12x multiplier (set manually) no oc on the 6800gt yet, heard of same system pushing 430mhz no problem. only thing i noticed on this mobo, when the cpu voltage is on auto, cpu-id reports it as 1.45v. even with the latest bios. and the ram on auto is 2-3-2-6, which i thought was odd for the XL series. but for the most part, life is good again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lidocaine Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 For those trying to get good overclocks on Rev. 1.02 A8V-Deluxe, you need to get the 1005.021 bios, it has working AGP/PCI locks. Bios 1006 from ASUS does not offer this feature. This mobo has got a lot of potential...look at this guys bandwidth [url=http://discuss.futuremark.com/forum/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=techmobocpu&Number=4147247&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart=4&vc=1] HERE [/url] :eek: ....and his FSB with working locks @ 1T :D: ....gotta know how to tweak these bad boys. :p: I'm luvin mine! [url=http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2859340] 3DMark03 [/url]....almost 12k stock ;): .....I know 03 is more GPU dependant, but look at the CPU score....LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkhyperx Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 anybody know how to overclock the RAM on the A8V :D I wanna get up to 430 mhz 2-2-2-5-1 :o anyone with the same FX-53, A8V (BIOS 1.006) and RAM as me want to tell me their highest clocks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooter99 Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 [quote name='Lidocaine'][url=http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2859340] 3DMark03 [/url]....almost 12k stock ;): .....I know 03 is more GPU dependant, but look at the CPU score....LOL![/QUOTE] How the hell do you get 1027 CPU Score? I'm having only 839 with nearly the same system ([URL=http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2819935]http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2819935[/URL] ), expept for the graphics card. Wich RAM Timing do you have? Is this sys really stock?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lidocaine Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 [quote name='lkhyperx']anybody know how to overclock the RAM on the A8V :D I wanna get up to 430 mhz 2-2-2-5-1 :o anyone with the same FX-53, A8V (BIOS 1.006) and RAM as me want to tell me their highest clocks?[/QUOTE] Overclocking over ~210-215FSB and your gonna lose a component without locks. [quote name='shooter99']How the hell do you get 1027 CPU Score? I'm having only 839 with nearly the same system ([url]http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2819935[/url] ), expept for the graphics card. Wich RAM Timing do you have? Is this sys really stock??[/quote] Ram timings are 2-2-2-5-11-16 @ 1T and yes my system is bone stock.....no overclocks on anything.......I've always been >1000 on my CPU score. New scores: [url=http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2859340]3DMark03 [/url]...stock [url=http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8010257]3DMark01[/url]...stock.. I post "stock" so others can have something to compare to, not bragging by any means, I just think that this mobo with the right bios is amazing, even for those that do run non-overclocked setups....like myself. I'd almost decided to not come back here, because trying to get help initially was "hopeless".....but I feel for the guys that are having issues with similiar setups, as it took me 2 days of no sleep, eat, and crap to figure out MY issue was a brand new PS and NOT my mobo, ram or cpu at all........I would of had this system up and running out of the box without a hitch had it not been a defunct PS. Typical goodness from ASUS this mobo is! Oh and this memory is good stuff too. If it weren't for having to reduce the T-rate command down to 2T when running all DIMM slots full on this mobo, I'd get another 1024 mb of this XMS XLPRO goodness.....fast as a greased pig I tell ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooter99 Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 [quote name='Lidocaine']Ram timings are 2-2-2-5-11-16 @ 1T and yes my system is bone stock.....no overclocks on anything.......I've always been >1000 on my CPU score.[/QUOTE] My timings are 2-3-2-6-11-16 @ 1T with Twinx1024-3200LL. Could it be the Ram wich gives you that amazing CPU score. Could you bother to run my timings an post the results with 3D Mark 2003? That would be great, cause I really don't know why I'm having only about 830 CPU Score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimerol Posted August 1, 2004 Share Posted August 1, 2004 my [URL=http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectdetails&projectType=10]3dmark03 score[/URL], all stock, no OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooter99 Posted August 1, 2004 Share Posted August 1, 2004 [quote name='cimerol']my [URL=http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectdetails&projectType=10]3dmark03 score[/URL], all stock, no OC.[/QUOTE] Your link doesn't work. You have to publish your benchresults and copy the 'compare url' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Hello, all! Sorry in advance for the long post. :o: What about an FX-53/A8V Deluxe system with two sets of TWINX1024-3200XLPRO (2 GB total)? Are the settings going to be any different? I had a similar experience, noticing a reported 2-3-2-5 latency and 166MHz (!?) memory clock in the BIOS. I tried changing the settings to a 2:1 (DDR400) ratio and 2-2-2-5 latency, and disabled 2T, but the motherboard wouldn't post -- so I had to reset the BIOS. Then I found this thread. Thanks for giving me hope! (I mean, okay, it's blindingly fast anyway, but I figured I'd get my money's worth since I spent the money to get 2-2-2-5 DDR400 memory...) By the way, I still haven't updated the BIOS yet to v1.006. Anyway, I haven't had any CPU heat issues (that I know of), but should I still set the voltage to 1.5v? I'll check it with CPU-Z and see what comes up. Other than that, I should be okay with just setting the DDR voltage to 2.7v, FSB to 200MHz, ratio to 2:1 (DDR400) (rather than AUTO), and latency settings to 2-2-2-5, as per Ixion's specs, right? I guess my basic questions are: A) Does having two sets of TWINX1024-3200XLPRO (2 GB) instead of one (1 GB) make a difference in what settings to use? I have two matched pairs, so all four DIMM slots are occupied. B) Should I use 2.7v or 2.8v for the memory? Anyone have any more testing to suggest one over the other? C) Does the SDRAM Bank Interleave setting need to be changed? In one of RAM GUY's FAQ posts, he mentions that the TWINX1024-3200XL modules are tested with a SDRAM Bank Interleave setting of 4. Any feedback? I haven't checked, so maybe the A8V uses this setting as the default. D) Cool 'n Quiet is nice, but somehow I don't feel comfortable with it. Not from a cooling standpoint, mind you -- I'm just concerned that there may be lag between CPU load detection and voltage ramp-up. I don't want to be playing a game and have to worry about whether the darn thing is always running at full speed, like I'd want it to be. Anyone have any test information to confirm the responsiveness of the feature? I'm leaning very heavily towards just keeping it disabled, since I haven't seen temperatures that are out of the norm. I'm using the stock heatsink and fan, and I don't plan on overclocking anything. E) Ummm, should the HyperTransport frequency be set to 1000MHz? That's the default that the board booted up with. I haven't changed it... nor have I messed with any CPU voltage or multiplier settings yet. I'm hoping to just be able to change those settings for the memory and be good to go. Unfortunately, I read this review and now I'm concerned as to whether everything is set up correctly, regarding the HT speed, CPU multipliers, etc. (check the second page, regarding the BIOS): [url]http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/asusA8V/[/url] Any thoughts? Thanks in advance! -------------------- Athlon 64 FX-53 2GB Corsair TWINX1024-3200XLPRO (two matched pairs; 4x512MB) eVGA e-GeForce 6800 Ultra Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro 74GB WD Raptor 10,000RPM SATA HDD 250GB WD 7,200RPM SATA HDD Antec 550W TruePower PSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimerol Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 [quote name='cimerol']my [URL=http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2868800]3dmark03 score[/URL], all stock, no OC.[/QUOTE] fixed above link, i am interested in others with the same configuration and what settings you have made to improve performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempo36 Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 I too am interested in whether the 3200xl's can potentially maintain their stock timings if two sets (4 banks) are present. Since I really like this memory, I'm wondering if there's any upgrade path for me in the memory dept for a while...or if another pair would actually boost the system...or if it would make little if any difference (or just push up my timings) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted August 3, 2004 Corsair Employees Share Posted August 3, 2004 Well you are welcome to try it! However according to the CPU white papers and the user manual with more the 2 modules DDR333 would be suggested! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 A HA! So THAT would explain why CPU-Z is reporting the memory clock speed as 166 MHz. That makes a lot more sense now. Would that also explain why I can't get the darn things to run at 2-2-2-5? I'm still getting 2-3-2-5, since after I tried Ixion's settings, the motherboard gave me an "Overclocking Failed" message and I had to go back to the BIOS. I'm using the stock settings now but I honestly have to say that this stuff is blazingly fast anyway... and with 2 GB, everything is incredibly responsive. I might have opted for a different configuration, had I known a few more things, but all in all, I'm still very pleased. Thanks, RAM GUY (and everyone who has contributed to this thread)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pagkalis Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 I have a similar set-up but with an 3500+ 64 AMD and a single Raptor. However, my SisSandra memory bandwidth score does even make to 5900, compared to Ixion's 6083. Is it because of the slower CPU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted August 3, 2004 Corsair Employees Share Posted August 3, 2004 More than likely yes! However, that is not that far off and it can be anything from the PSU to a slight difference in the components! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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