mR.Waffles Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 I am having a bear of a time getting my computer mounted in a new case. I purchased an h50 because my bigtyphoon hit the case fans. I mounted the h50 radiator to the exhaust fan and switched the fan so it would blow air into the radiator. So the exhaust fan is now a push and the top fan is now a pull. All the fans are spinning properly now. I plugged the pump power into pwr_fan 3 prong power spot on the motherboard. The way my case is wired I cannot plug the exhaust fan into the CPU Fan 3 prong power spot on the motherboard. I also tried plugging the pump into cpu_fan slot. Anyway, my computer won't let me format. It keeps freezing up on detecting drives. I checked the HardwareMonitor on my Asus P5n-D and it says the CPU is running at 90c! I am thinking I have a thermal problem that is ruining my ability to format the drives in the windows setup. How can I check to see if the water is running through the h50 properly? I contacted support and they told me to RMA the whole unit. I just want to see if there's anything I am doing wrong. I'm not looking forward to redoing the whole case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthohol Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 ok, you can either get an adapter to plug the pump into a molex from the PSU or go in the bios and make sure there is no power management. all fans must run at 100% 100% of the time. the pump RPM should be around 1400 if you look in the bios under hardware monitoring you should be able to see the speed of all fans including the pump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mR.Waffles Posted December 29, 2010 Author Share Posted December 29, 2010 I checked the RPMs on the CPU Fan slot (which is connected to the pump) and it is running at 1370 RPMs. The CPU kept running hotter and hotter as I was in the HWmonitor so I quickly shut it off again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRI-MIX-DIVER Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 what happened when you pluged the pump in the CPU fan slot. And is it set to 100 duty in the bios? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mR.Waffles Posted December 30, 2010 Author Share Posted December 30, 2010 It's been a long day. I think I may have solved the problem. I checked the mounting job and it was tight as could be. The water block would not budge. I figured I would take it apart and see if the thermal paste had made contact. It did so I was discouraged. I decided to hook it all back up and just tighten the block down as hard as I could. My CPU went down to 40 degrees and has stayed there ever since. I am not quite sure what changed. The over heating problem was keeping me from formatting my 500 gig drive. When I tried the second time to format I used a 1TB drive, but windows could not detect it. I hooked the 500 gig drive back up, windows found it, and is currently installing. Everything should be fine now. Talk about compounding problems. I couldn't even get to the drive selection screen during setup because I did not turn off the 1.44MB floppy (which I don't have connected) in the bios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mR.Waffles Posted December 30, 2010 Author Share Posted December 30, 2010 So my machine keeps crashing after reformat, even though the motherboard's hardwaremonitor is reporting like 30C. I went out and bought a new SATA DVD Rom to replace my old IDE CD Drive hoping it would allow for a better install. Well, it installed Windows just fine, but after 5 minutes of use windows freezes! I cannot figure it out. It doesn't seem to be a thermal problem. I even updated by Asus P5n-d bios to 1401. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mR.Waffles Posted December 30, 2010 Author Share Posted December 30, 2010 Update: The machine has been crashing on boot (after it tried to do a system update), and sometimes won't boot at all. I ran Seagate's Seatools and did a long check. When the results finally were ready I went to click on it and a bunch of random characters, like smilies and upside down hearts and arrows appeared on the screen and it cold locked. I ran a quick scan and it did not detect any problems on the disk. I rebooted to safe mode, installed the nforce motherboard drivers, and rebooted the system to normal windows. Now I am running Prime95 with HWmonitor open waiting to see if the crash is timed to a temperature, but it has not crashed yet. It's been longer than 10 minutes and my temperature is at 44C. I'm going to bed and will check on it in the morning. <EDIT>Also I have two EVGA Nvidia Geforce GTX 460 SE 's. I intend to run SLI, but in the meantime I just want Windows to work. I swapped out the one I was using with other before running the prime95 test. I'm going to swap them back out in the morning and run the test again and see if it crashes. <EDIT> Right as I was going to bed the machine crashed again with HWMonitor reporting 45 C. How does a machine crash with a fresh install when there's not a heating problem? I am so discouraged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRI-MIX-DIVER Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Is the ram seated right. And what power supply do you have ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mR.Waffles Posted December 30, 2010 Author Share Posted December 30, 2010 The RAM is seated correctly, because I never took it off. It worked fine on the old build. My system is running stock with no over clock. Everything is the same as it was on my old machine except the 460 (I previously had a 280 GTX) and the H50 cooler. I haven't messed with the thermal paste because I'm terrified to unhook the h50 and have it not work again. I ran another seatools check over night and the drive passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanqi1234 Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 You did a bios upgrade on a known unstable machine? Lucky you didn't brick your bios. It's hard to know what's wrong. So the solution is to treat every possible problem. - reinstall the ram (although you didn't take them off, they could be loosen when you moved your mainboard) - make sure only 1 video card is installed, re-install it, and re-connect its power cable - mainboard and cpu power .... basically redo everything except the H50 you don't want to redo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mR.Waffles Posted December 30, 2010 Author Share Posted December 30, 2010 That's what I am working on right now. I redid the RAM and video card. I ran a CPU stress from the ultimate boot disk for 50 minutes, rebooted and checked temperature in the bios HWMonitor which reported 30C. Looks like the h50 is working and something else is wrong. I'm currently running a full erase on my Seagate Barracuda (even though the check reported no errors), and am going to reformat another time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mR.Waffles Posted December 30, 2010 Author Share Posted December 30, 2010 Update: I took out the sound card. Used Seatools to do a full erase (took 5 hours). I reformatted with the newly erased drive. Windows has been running Prime95 for an hour now and the temperature has not risen above 48 C. Maybe this is success... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthohol Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 there's on board sound on your MB, make sure you disable it before adding a sound card. that could be the problem, 2 sound devices fighting for an IRQ or DMA. i wish you luck!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mR.Waffles Posted January 1, 2011 Author Share Posted January 1, 2011 I got it working with the sound card. Not sure what I did to fix it all. I guess doing a full zero format on the seagate helped. Now I have my Q8400 overclocked to 3.1 from 2.6 stable at 54C. Curious, can a Core2Quad Q8400 at 3.1ghz bottle neck two GTX 460 se's in SLI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cee Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Power supply might be faulty.. i dont know anything about this, but checking windows event log might help. i had the same problem, and i send computer to repair at expert, they found out it was psu's fault. getting corsair psu soon. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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