Asus P6X58D-E with 2 x TR3X6G1600C8D compatible?

[TTPNero]

Hey all,

 

I have to admit, I have not built a new PC for around 5 years now and so have not kept up with all this new tech and so I am a little lost here.

 

I am looking at the Asus P6X58D-E and this 6GB kit from Corsair (TR3X6G1600C8D).

 

However I would like 12GB but the compatibility matrix says that only 4 slots can be used with this memory.

 

So, is the matrix up to date? If so, what would be the consequences of buying 2 x TR3X6G1600C8D, would it work?

 

Or is there some other memory that would be recommended?

 

Thanks for your patience and understand!

John

[Wired]

It's never recommended to mix memory as there's no way to guarantee if or how they'd work together. If you want 12 GB of memory, get a 12 GB kit, e.g. CMP12GX3M3A1600C9.

 

Guaranteed-Compatible Memory for your Asus P6X58D-E

http://www.corsair.com/products/corei7/default.aspx

[TTPNero]

Hey Wired,

 

Thanks for the reply.

 

The only concern I have is that the memory you mentioned is not on Asus' Qualified Vendor List for this particular board.

 

So, can I ask you if these QVL's are just a joke or should they be followed? Or is it just that Corsairs' memory configurator is more up to date?

 

One last thing, from the mem config that you sent me, the 4 'Featured Memory' are these the ones to stick with or not? Because under the complete list of compatible memory I see that this one 'CMD12GX3M6A1600C8' appears to be slightly better and not a lot more in price. What are your thoughts on this?

 

Cheers,

John

[trackrat]

The QVL lists are just a list of RAM that the mobo maker has confirmed to work. It's not all inclusive and rarley up to date. The Corsair memory finder should serve you well as new RAM part numbers are added all the time. Any of the compatible RAM listed for your mobo/CPU should work just fine. The "four featured RAM kits" is just a representation of common choices for different types PC users. The long list of RAM at the bottom of the page all work with your mobo.

[TTPNero]

Thanks trackrat, that page looks interesting and that .pdf will come in handy.

 

So my last question is:

 

With what 'wired' suggested:

Details for CMP12GX3M3A1600C9

Memory Type

DDR3-1600 (Dominator-12800C9*XMP*3CH)

Size

12GB Kit (3 x 4GB)

Latency

9-9-9-24

 

And what I looked at:

Memory Type

DDR3-1600 (Dominator-12800C8*XMP*3CH)

Size

12GB Kit (6 x 2GB)

Latency

8-8-8-24

 

Apart from the increased voltage requirements between 6 sticks as opposed to 3 and the lower latency of the memory I mentioned, what would your thoughts be on which memory to choose?

[tom_wise]

Nero;478611']Thanks trackrat, that page looks interesting and that .pdf will come in handy.

 

So my last question is:

 

With what 'wired' suggested:

Details for CMP12GX3M3A1600C9

Memory Type

DDR3-1600 (Dominator-12800C9*XMP*3CH)

Size

12GB Kit (3 x 4GB)

Latency

9-9-9-24

 

And what I looked at:

Memory Type

DDR3-1600 (Dominator-12800C8*XMP*3CH)

Size

12GB Kit (6 x 2GB)

Latency

8-8-8-24

 

Apart from the increased voltage requirements between 6 sticks as opposed to 3 and the lower latency of the memory I mentioned, what would your thoughts be on which memory to choose?

 

 

I'm Obviously new here! And very interested in the answers/discourse in this thread.

 

I do have your exact same MOBO and your same computing requirements. Also i presently run the 12GB kit. If I had a re-do I'd have gone with the 3 4GB modules, simple for the easy upgrade to our MOBO's 24GB max-out. Also reading the .pdf, seems like it'd been easier in 12GB form ( on the MOBO's load) to have the three 4GB sticks.

 

thanks, tw

[TTPNero]

I'm Obviously new here! And very interested in the answers/discourse in this thread.

 

I do have your exact same MOBO and your same computing requirements. Also i presently run the 12GB kit. If I had a re-do I'd have gone with the 3 4GB modules, simple for the easy upgrade to our MOBO's 24GB max-out. Also reading the .pdf, seems like it'd been easier in 12GB form ( on the MOBO's load) to have the three 4GB sticks.

 

thanks, tw

 

Thanks tom,

 

But what about performance? As the 6 x 2 have better latency? That is what bothers me, I suppose the small increase in performance may not even be noticeable but I am curious! :)

[trackrat]

With the data bandwidth available in newer CPUs latency is a lot less important in my experience. On my system I saw ~ 1% difference between 11-11-11-30 2T @ 1333 MHz. and 8-8-8-24 1T @ 1600 MHz. This seems to be typical for other users also.

 

tom_wise-

 

I would suggest NOT mixing of two RAM kits and purchasing ONE matched, tested RAM kit especially with higher RAM quantity like 6-12-24 GB. RAM for the reasons outlined in the Memory Upgrade Guide link in my signature.

[tom_wise]

With the data bandwidth available in newer CPUs latency is a lot less important in my experience. On my system I saw ~ 1% difference between 11-11-11-30 2T @ 1333 MHz. and 8-8-8-24 1T @ 1600 MHz. This seems to be typical for other users also.

 

I would suggest NOT mixing of two RAM kits and purchasing ONE matched, tested RAM kit especially with higher RAM quantity like 6-12-24 GB. RAM for the reasons outlined in the Memory Upgrade Guide link in my signature.

 

I read that! Liked it too!

 

The MOBO we have allows for easy modest OC'ing. I changed btw the default BIOS setting and the 1600 setting and then went and rendered a Full res video with sound in (AE CS4) that I had rendered the other day at default settings. It rendered about 1/2 minute quicker....which isn't much of a test, but a smallish test none the less (Now only if I could get my Quadro FX to pitch in).

 

SO reading the link .pdf and your suggestions of matched kits, are you saying not to do the 12GB (three 4Gb) kit and then upgrade adding another of the same kit, but to instead scrap that first kit when desiring an upgrade and go with a six-stick 4GB kit? If so, then it certainly would make more sense to buy as much as you can stand right up front! thanks!!

[TTPNero]

OK cool, so either way for me, it would not matter apart from the load on the system what I bought because even buying the 3 x 4gb, if I wanted to upgrade I would have to scrap the mem I have and buy a whole new kit :(

 

Now there is a dilemma....

 

OK 3 x 4GB it is then to reduce load in my system!

 

Thank you everyone for your input, its been invaluable :)

[trackrat]

I read that! Liked it too!

 

The MOBO we have allows for easy modest OC'ing. I changed btw the default BIOS setting and the 1600 setting and then went and rendered a Full res video with sound in (AE CS4) that I had rendered the other day at default settings. It rendered about 1/2 minute quicker....which isn't much of a test, but a smallish test none the less (Now only if I could get my Quadro FX to pitch in).

 

SO reading the link .pdf and your suggestions of matched kits, are you saying not to do the 12GB (three 4Gb) kit and then upgrade adding another of the same kit, but to instead scrap that first kit when desiring an upgrade and go with a six-stick 4GB kit? If so, then it certainly would make more sense to buy as much as you can stand right up front! thanks!!

 

 

YES it's always preferred to buy ONE tested, matched, compatible RAM Kit as there is no guarantee that mixing of two RAM kits will work without issues. You may be able to sell your current RAM to upgrade to a larger RAM kit? If you have the option buy the total RAM you need to start with to eliminate the need to upgrade.

[tom_wise]

YES it's always preferred to buy ONE tested, matched, compatible RAM Kit as there is no guarantee that mixing of two RAM kits will work without issues.

 

Nice to know!

 

If you have the option buy the total RAM you need to start with to eliminate the need to upgrade.

 

Ah...we should all be so lucky!

 

Thanks for the insights!