gunrunner Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 I encounter serious problems with Corsair's CMD4GX3M2A1600C9 and my P7P55D-E Pro, no BSOD or such, the computer randomly freezes and I have to reboot manually. When I start my computer, it has around 90% chances to freeze in the first 2 hours. My settings are (as specified) : Timings : 9-9-9-24-2N Frequency : 1333mhz (since my i7 860 is not overclocked) X.M.P mode DRAM : 1.65v QPI : 1.2v Memtest+ shows no erros. I guess this RAM is definitely not compatible with my mobo. So what should I do? And why is this reference not listed on Corsair's website? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackrat Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 The memory is approved for Intel i5/i7 CPUs so it should be compatible with your mobo. Do you have the latest BIOS? Disable X.M.P. mode. Then try upping the QPI to 1.35 V. You can also test the RAM @ 1.5 V with the frequency @ 1333 MHz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunrunner Posted November 12, 2010 Author Share Posted November 12, 2010 Unstable when running the RAM at 1.5v, it freezes around 15 seconds after booting. And thanks for telling me to turning off X.M.P. mode, I didn't know it was automatically setting my CPU at 133Mhz x 22. Well I'm going to try further settings and this http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2265716/ aswell this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunrunner Posted November 16, 2010 Author Share Posted November 16, 2010 Well I'm kind of sick of playing with QPI, timings, voltages and stuff. I can't even remember the last time I shut my computer off correctly, because no matter what I try, eventually it will always freeze. Here's what clearly doesn't work (everything @ 1333Mhz): - QPI @1.35v + DRAM @ 1.65v + 9-9-9-24-2N - QPI @1.20v + DRAM @ 1.65v + 9-9-9-24-2N - QPI @1.10v + DRAM @ 1.65v + 9-9-9-24-2N - QPI @1.35v + DRAM @ 1.50v + 9-9-9-24-2N - QPI @1.20v + DRAM @ 1.50v + 9-9-9-24-2N - QPI @1.10v + DRAM @ 1.50v + 9-9-9-24-2N I also tried unsuccessfully to switch 2N to 1N, or increase/decrease latencies, but whenever it looks stable for hours, it always ends with in a frustrating crash. I can no longer waste my time, thus I guess next step for me would be a RMA request, what do you think? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boooooo Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Hi I have a similar problem (random freezes, 100% hardware related and not overheat related) unfortunately not so frequent. My first thought was faulty RAM I tried all voltages and frequency/timing combinations without solving but now I am pretty sure is my video card or power supply; try this: swapping your video card with another, better if doesn't need a power connector. My freezes are gone, previously could occur even in bios setting page, during a memtest86+, or even in windows when I was idle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunrunner Posted November 16, 2010 Author Share Posted November 16, 2010 No, definitely, it can't be related to my power supply or my video card, I believe IMO my hardware is way too recent (bought 2 weeks ago) and high end to be faulty. I own a Nvidia GTX 460 and a Cooler Master Silent Gold Pro 700w. Anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boooooo Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 even my hardware are new. I tell you this because of my experience, even all my issue carried me to DDR problem or motherboard or CPU or Hard Disk... Usually memory errors not lead to freezes but: BSOD or errors in memtest86+ You never had errors on memtest86+? I can say you memory is 90% working good Give me a chance, try a different PCI-E (better if not need power connector) and made a memtest86+. Usually after many minutes/hours do you have a freeze during memtest86+? Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_huot1 Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 i.m having the same problems... i can't spot all at!.... any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boooooo Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 i.m having the same problems... i can't spot all at!.... any ideas? you can start adding your computer spec and which testes you have done till now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 you can start adding your computer spec and which testes you have done till now...Uh, testes? TMI dude, TMI! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boooooo Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 looool my English is owful :eek: by the way I learned now with a dictionary the meaning of a new word "testis,testes" :p: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunrunner Posted November 20, 2010 Author Share Posted November 20, 2010 I've found a great and simple solution : I've just threw them out and bought an ACTUAL working G.Skill kit of RAM. 90€ is worthless compared to the time I've totally squandered here with Corsair, and this can't be refunded. Anyway, this may sounds irrational but I won't buy and recommend anything from Corsair in the future. Bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boooooo Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Update: it seems even my issue is caused by memory I am trying a different stick and I have no more freezes (I have to wait few days for more extensive tests) The incredible and weird thing is that my memory probably is not faulty but simple not compatible with my motherboard since resting in bios page menù or performing a memtest86+ works with no freezes if I swap my VGA with another doesn't need power supply. It's exact the same issue reported by this guy http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=918669 and we have completely different hardware except for similar DDR3 Hope I can say END to my freeze story in the next days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 The incredible and weird thing is that my memory probably is not faulty but simple not compatible with my motherboardSwapping the video card makes no sense, however you're right in that the memory isn't compatible. It's meant for Intel Core iX systems and not AMD systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einherjar Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 I have the exact same memory kits and I'm also having problems. Thing is memtest detected no errors when I tested each kit separately but failed test 5 when both were in (and, before you ask, I did try different sockets). Windows memory diagnostic also detected errors. And while the system is generally stable, the problems are starting to become apparent in some real-life applications (e.g. Fifa 11 shuts down the PC and there's no way in hell the problem can be attributable to overheating because the system runs full load at 40deg max). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boooooo Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Swapping the video card makes no sense, however you're right in that the memory isn't compatible. It's meant for Intel Core iX systems and not AMD systems. I know is incredible, but I found out another guy having same issue, he has an intel system and he also find out this weird thing. Because of freeze problem I could only try to replace components: I noticed that resting in bios settings page or performing a memtest86+ overnight make system freeze in a range of time (2 minutes 5 hours). Changing VGA with another that doesn't need power supply make the above tests freeze no more (or at lest it extended the range of time because I tried only for two night with a longer test of 16 hours). Asrock told me they tested for me the same memory and they have no problem, I do not know if they tested with a normal VGA card. Another common thing beside memory is that our motherboard doesn't have an integrated VGA card @Einherjar: your seems a different issue, try using memory in "ganged" mode command rate 2T. Better thing is to install a free tool called "CPU-Z" and take a look at SPD value, you will see a "timings table": then put this values in bios DDR configuration page (I want to say don't use automatic settings) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einherjar Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 I changed to ganged mode but memtest reports more errors (again, in test 5). Also, the CPU-Z timings under XMP-1600 are exactly the same as the automatic bios timings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boooooo Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Oh weird thing, I read test #5 is related to "memory speed, timings and vdimm related (meaning altering mem speed, timings and/or vdimm saw errors in this test disappear)" try the relaxed one configuration for example choosing a very low frequency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einherjar Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 With lower frequencies than 1600MHz, memtest reports multitudes of errors from test 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boooooo Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 mhhh probably your last option is trying a different memory and see if errors persist is a motherboard or Integrated Memory Controller (is on the CPU) issue otherwise is a your original memory issue. I read somewhere that a remote possibility of this kind of problem can be a bent CPU pin, good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einherjar Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Problem solved. All that was needed was switching the command rate from 1T to 2T - and, voila, everything works without a glitch, including memtest and prime95. Incredible that such an obscure parameter can make this much of a difference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boooooo Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 lol I told you ;) glad you solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackrat Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Problem solved. All that was needed was switching the command rate from 1T to 2T - and, voila, everything works without a glitch, including memtest and prime95. Incredible that such an obscure parameter can make this much of a difference... It's not obscure at all. When you have more than one module in the mobo you typically need an extra timing cycle to prevent corrupt data transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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