Lorthos Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Hello Am going to do a new build with the 600T case and an i7 930 no overclocking: http://www.corsair.com/products/600t/default.aspx Don't know if I should go with the H50 or H70, mainly because theres different configurations you can do with them. # of fans, push pull, exhaust or intake. etc. I am going to use this for a fan substitute over what comes with them as it sounds like they are quieter and move more air... http://www.akasa.com.tw/update.php?tpl=product/product.detail.tpl&no=181&type=Fans&type_sub=Ultra%20Quiet%20Fan&model=AK-FN058 Any input would be appreciated... One other follow-up question, are there threads on the radiator that the screws bolt into or do you use nuts? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorthos Posted October 2, 2010 Author Share Posted October 2, 2010 Okay, maybe that was too broad of a question, I'll narrow the choices down, might make it easier.. The H50 with one fan pulling outside air in... or The H70 with one fan pulling outside air in... Using this fan: http://www.akasa.com.tw/update.php?tpl=product/product.detail.tpl&no=181&type=Fans&type_sub=Ultra%20Quiet%20Fan&model=AK-FN058 Thanks P.S. Never mind about the bolting question I see on the radiator that it has threads on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuffle Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 So you've got a 120mm fan already, go with the H50. I love the H50, very pleased with it. In my case I use my Noctua and Corsair fans as exhuast either side of the H50. I found the intake method heated up my case. Brilliant results with this. So you could try it with your fan and the one that comes with H50. With the H70 you get 2 fans but is the latest model, but since you got one already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorthos Posted October 2, 2010 Author Share Posted October 2, 2010 So you've got a 120mm fan already, go with the H50. I love the H50, very pleased with it. In my case I use my Noctua and Corsair fans as exhuast either side of the H50. I found the intake method heated up my case. Brilliant results with this. So you could try it with your fan and the one that comes with H50. With the H70 you get 2 fans but is the latest model, but since you got one already... Hello No I don't have any fans at all, this is all just preliminary questions. Like I said theres alot of options for these coolers. Am just trying to narrow it down for the best cooling setup, and not having to go overboard or overkill in the setup.... The intake or exhaust is mainly the one thats got me confused. Do you bring cool air in over the radiator for better cpu cooling thus heating up the case or do you exhaust warm air over the radiator thus not cooling the cpu as well but having a cooler case.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuffle Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Lorthos Overkill is the key word. I'm assuming you have no other fans blowing air in/out of the case. I would say go for the H70 since you haven't got a 120mm fan. This will provide you with the 2 fans. Place both of the fans provided in same direction.. either moving air in (intake) or out of case (exhaust). Monitor temps, you can always change. I would suggest exhaust. Then its a question of noise vs temps, my H50 is so effective so thus minimum fans speed are set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkolbo Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 With a stock speed Core i7 930. the H50 with the fan that comes with it will do very well for you. The one fan is quiet when attached to motherboard control and it cools plenty for a stock speed 930. I was overclocking to about 3.6Ghtz with the stock H50 and a 930 without any heat issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorthos Posted October 3, 2010 Author Share Posted October 3, 2010 With a stock speed Core i7 930. the H50 with the fan that comes with it will do very well for you. The one fan is quiet when attached to motherboard control and it cools plenty for a stock speed 930. I was overclocking to about 3.6Ghtz with the stock H50 and a 930 without any heat issue. Okay, were you using it as an intake or exhaust? I'm thinking intake:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkolbo Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Okay, were you using it as an intake or exhaust? I'm thinking intake:) I was using intake, but in an 800D with an extra exhaust fan, low RPM on the top of the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorthos Posted October 3, 2010 Author Share Posted October 3, 2010 Okay, heres my plan, am going to get the H70 because of the bigger radiator and use this fan and only use one inside the case: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8402/fan-519/Noiseblocker_NB-Multiframe_M12-P_120mmx25mm_Ultra_Silent_PWM_Fan_-_1000-2000_RPM_-_12-29_dBA.html Being as the 600T has a big exhaust fan at the top of it I will use the fan as an intake for now. And I will get two of these fans in case I decide to do push/pull and use this if I do: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8418/cab-150/FrozenCPU_PMW_Y_Splitter_Cable.html?tl=g47c251s1325 Theres a 4 pin case fan connector at the back of the motherboard I'm using: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131665 I'm going to connect the pump directly to the power supply so that way I know for sure its running at full capacity 100 percent of the time and as soon as I turn on the computer: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=popup_image_scroll&products_id=2843&image_scroll_id=0&zenid=89bac600ec1291056e7281a461e92608 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkolbo Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Okay, heres my plan, am going to get the H70 because of the bigger radiator and use this fan and only use one inside the case: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8402/fan-519/Noiseblocker_NB-Multiframe_M12-P_120mmx25mm_Ultra_Silent_PWM_Fan_-_1000-2000_RPM_-_12-29_dBA.html Theres a 4 pin case fan connector at the back of the motherboard I'm using: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131665 I can't tell you if one fan will move enough air through the big H70 radiator. I like the NB fans that I have. I would attach the fans on the H70 to the CPU fan header rather than a case fan header. The case will not heat up as fast as the CPU does and so your fans may not speed up when you need them. That could be really ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorthos Posted October 3, 2010 Author Share Posted October 3, 2010 I can't tell you if one fan will move enough air through the big H70 radiator. I like the NB fans that I have. I would attach the fans on the H70 to the CPU fan header rather than a case fan header. The case will not heat up as fast as the CPU does and so your fans may not speed up when you need them. That could be really ugly. Thats why I'm getting two fans, if its not cooling enough I'll add another fan and see what kind of a difference it makes... Yes I'll attach the fan to the cpu header then... Thanks for the help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetboy Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 I would do a push/pull fan setup with whichever you choose. Now, do you have enough room for 2 fans + H70? If so, there is your answer. If not, go with the H50. The fan you linked, I am not sure it will provide a seal with either radiator due to its frame. If trying to stay PWM, you could try the http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8409/fan-526/Noiseblocker_NB-BlackSilentFan_XLP_120mmx25mm_Ultra_Quiet_PWM_Fan_-_1000-2000_RPM_-_14-31_dBA.html?tl=g36c15s69 (Noiseblocker NB-BlackSilentFan XLP) which isn't really quiet. At full speed as a push, is a touch "whiney". Or http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10458/fan-690/Scythe_Kaze-Jyuni_Slip_Stream_120mm_x_25mm_PWM_and_VR_Fan_-_SY1225SL12HPVC.html?tl=g36c15s69#blank (Scythe Kaze-Jyuni Slip Stream) not sure about the static pressure of that one though. And the http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11111/fan-709/Akasa_120mm_x_25mm_Viper_PWM_Fan_w_Hydro_Dynamic_Bearings_AK-FN059.html (Akasa Viper) which I may try next in place of my Noiseblocker. As long as you are setting them up for temperature control, they should give decent performance at low speed most of the time in a push/pull config. The Noiseblocker I have is even whiney down to about 1100rpm which is why I may replace it. Long story short, if you can fit it, radiator performance is generally bigger the better. And 2 fans due to dense fins on both rads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorthos Posted October 11, 2010 Author Share Posted October 11, 2010 I would do a push/pull fan setup with whichever you choose. Now, do you have enough room for 2 fans + H70? If so, there is your answer. If not, go with the H50. The fan you linked, I am not sure it will provide a seal with either radiator due to its frame. If trying to stay PWM, you could try the http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8409/fan-526/Noiseblocker_NB-BlackSilentFan_XLP_120mmx25mm_Ultra_Quiet_PWM_Fan_-_1000-2000_RPM_-_14-31_dBA.html?tl=g36c15s69 (Noiseblocker NB-BlackSilentFan XLP) which isn't really quiet. At full speed as a push, is a touch "whiney". Or http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10458/fan-690/Scythe_Kaze-Jyuni_Slip_Stream_120mm_x_25mm_PWM_and_VR_Fan_-_SY1225SL12HPVC.html?tl=g36c15s69#blank (Scythe Kaze-Jyuni Slip Stream) not sure about the static pressure of that one though. And the http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11111/fan-709/Akasa_120mm_x_25mm_Viper_PWM_Fan_w_Hydro_Dynamic_Bearings_AK-FN059.html (Akasa Viper) which I may try next in place of my Noiseblocker. As long as you are setting them up for temperature control, they should give decent performance at low speed most of the time in a push/pull config. The Noiseblocker I have is even whiney down to about 1100rpm which is why I may replace it. Long story short, if you can fit it, radiator performance is generally bigger the better. And 2 fans due to dense fins on both rads. Yeah, I was wondering about those fans since kkolbo was using shrouds with them. The Akasa was one I was looking at too anyway. Still haven't ordered anything yet:) Heres a link to some pics of that 600T case with the H70 installed with 2 fans... http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1036224683 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorthos Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 I would do a push/pull fan setup with whichever you choose. Now, do you have enough room for 2 fans + H70? If so, there is your answer. If not, go with the H50. The fan you linked, I am not sure it will provide a seal with either radiator due to its frame. If trying to stay PWM, you could try the http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8409/fan-526/Noiseblocker_NB-BlackSilentFan_XLP_120mmx25mm_Ultra_Quiet_PWM_Fan_-_1000-2000_RPM_-_14-31_dBA.html?tl=g36c15s69 (Noiseblocker NB-BlackSilentFan XLP) which isn't really quiet. At full speed as a push, is a touch "whiney". Or http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10458/fan-690/Scythe_Kaze-Jyuni_Slip_Stream_120mm_x_25mm_PWM_and_VR_Fan_-_SY1225SL12HPVC.html?tl=g36c15s69#blank (Scythe Kaze-Jyuni Slip Stream) not sure about the static pressure of that one though. And the http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11111/fan-709/Akasa_120mm_x_25mm_Viper_PWM_Fan_w_Hydro_Dynamic_Bearings_AK-FN059.html (Akasa Viper) which I may try next in place of my Noiseblocker. As long as you are setting them up for temperature control, they should give decent performance at low speed most of the time in a push/pull config. The Noiseblocker I have is even whiney down to about 1100rpm which is why I may replace it. Long story short, if you can fit it, radiator performance is generally bigger the better. And 2 fans due to dense fins on both rads. Actually the fins on the H50 aren't very dense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetboy Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Actually, compared to my RX120... the H50 is dense Borrowed from Skinnee Labs H50 FPI- http://skinneelabs.com/assets/images/Waterkit/Corsair/H50/H50_radfpi.jpg RX120 FPI- http://skinneelabs.com/assets/images/Radiators/XSPC/RX120/RX120_FPI.jpg Needs more static pressure to move that air through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorthos Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 Okay, well if your comparing them from rad to rad then yeah:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triggaaar Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Do you want to keep your cooler if you upgrade cpu in a couple of years? Do you want to be able to overclock in the future? If not, the H70 seems somewhat overkill. I bought it partly as I hope to be able to use it if I get a 6 core cpu next. I'd recommend setting the fan(s) to exhaust from the case. You won't have any trouble keeping your cpu cool, and it'll keep everything else in the case cool too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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