benx70 Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 question just installed 2 cosair f60 in raid o but when i check the properties, then do the command to check if the trim is on then if im correct its showing my ssd raid is a standard drive NOT ssd raid. so im not sure if i did something wrong, or maybe i just need a software update??:confused::confused::confused: thanks ben ps still love the drives but just want to make sure they are update right so i get every little bit of umpffffff out of them :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthohol Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 if i read the papers correctly you must install these drivers during windows 7 setup. http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Chipsets&ProductLine=Desktop+Chipsets&ProductProduct=Intel%C2%AE+X58+Express+Chipset it will not work unless you hit f6 during setup and installed these first before win7 is even loaded on the drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benx70 Posted September 16, 2010 Author Share Posted September 16, 2010 ok thank you very much Synthohol, oh well get to install W7 again lol. :) Sorry for the noob question but install all of them? have a good day ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthohol Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 only the ones for your chipset ich10r is your raid controller chipset i think? double check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbigbear Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 really? do i really need to hit f6 before i install windows 7? it's intel RST right? you don't need the one with F6 right? still got this one right? you can install it within windows 7 right? as for TRIM, TRIM won't run even if it is stated ON right? mine also stated TRIM on til i disable it manually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthohol Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 from what i understand yes you must hit f6 at the beginning of the install to use the drivers i linked. installing/upgrading them afterwords will not allow trim commands to be passed through the raid controller. so yes, a complete reinstall is in the cards for your successful raid+trim windows 7 install it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mummy Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 In windows xp or so yes, but in Vista and w7 they have a "window" in starting installing, where you choose HDD, SSD, or what ever to install it. In that same window is a button that says something like "install drivers" (i have FIN versions, so dont know right words). Press that and choose locatin (like usb flash disk) where you store your driver files(with out zip) and install them from it. Then choose your SSD RAID array and continue your install. :sunglasse Im not even sure will pressing f6 work on w7 installation... :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E46Johnny Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 If you can install windows 7 on your SSD, there is is a version of the RST driver that could be installed from within Windows 7, this is probably the easiest way. The F6 install is use full if OS is not installed correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthohol Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 In windows xp or so yes, but in Vista and w7 they have a "window" in starting installing, where you choose HDD, SSD, or what ever to install it... ..Im not even sure will pressing f6 work on w7 installation... :confused: yes you are totally right, i almost forgot the install additional drivers screen, you may not even see the raid until you install them. from what i read the only way for trim to be passed through the raid chip is when the special drivers i linked are installed in the initial win7 setup. but yeah i totally forgot about that screen, ive only installed win 7 about 5 or 6 times (lol compared to the hundreds of xp installs) very sorry if i caused any confusion Ben! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E46Johnny Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 TRIM in raid setups is not possible yet, as far as i know. The controller can pas the TRIM command, but the drivers can not, at the moment. Rumors says that Intel is working on this tho. A single SSD within a raid array should get the TRIM command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbigbear Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 they aren't working, but 7 will still show you TRIM is activated. i have to manually disable mine to get my Raid0 F60 running stable for few days before bsod. now i just have to wait yellowbeard til end of the month ;): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benx70 Posted September 17, 2010 Author Share Posted September 17, 2010 @E46Johnny "there is is a version of the RST driver that could be installed from within Windows 7" if i install it that way will it wipe everything i currently have on my drives? also where can i find the one that can be used from within Windows 7? thank you guys for the help. ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benx70 Posted September 17, 2010 Author Share Posted September 17, 2010 @Synthohol no prob man :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthohol Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 TRIM in raid setups is not possible yet, as far as i know. thwy might have done it... from the help file---> Quote from help file: RAID enabled systems Redundant Array of Independent Drives (RAID) refers to multiple independent disks combined to form one logical drive. The main objective of this technology is to improve storage system performance, data protection, and increase fault-tolerance. This technology provides support for the following features: ■ Intel® Rapid Recover Technology This technology provides full data redundancy by copying data from a designated source drive (i.e., master disk) to a designated destination drive (i.e., recovery disk). Data updates of recovery volumes can be continuous or on request. ■ Intel® Rapid RAID This technology provides the ability to create RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 5, and RAID 10 volumes on desktop and mobile platforms. Data is distributed across two or more disks to provide data redundancy or to enhance data storage performance. ■ Intel® Matrix RAID Technology This technology allows two independent RAID volumes to be created on a single array. The first volume occupies part of the array, leaving space for the second volume. The array may consist of two to six SATA disks depending on the volume types. ■ Volume migration This feature provides support for converting system data into a high-performance or protection RAID configuration. ■ Volume size increase This feature allows you to increase the data storage capacity of a volume by utilizing 100% of the available array space or by adding one or more SATA disk to an existing volume. Our application also provides support for the following features: • Password-protected disks This feature provides high-level security and protection for the data on your disks with a password, denying access from any unauthorized user. • Trim (Microsoft Windows 7* only) This feature provides support for solid state disks (SSDs) that meet the ATA-8 protocol requirements. This feature optimizes write operations, helps devices reduce wear, and maintains unused storage area on devices as large as possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benx70 Posted September 17, 2010 Author Share Posted September 17, 2010 http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd29/majorshirow/corsairssddrivesraid0.jpg ok silly question, now when i go to my computer click on my dive i know its in fact my ssd's, right click it, properties, hardware that shows the drive it should labed next to manufactor as standard disk drives, or will it say ssd drives?? sorry for all the noobish questions lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthohol Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 although i have no SSDs, i do have several SATA RAID volumes and they all come up as standard disk drives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbigbear Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 @synthohol Intel® Rapid Storage Technology 9.6 supports TRIM in AHCI mode and in RAID mode for drives that are not part of a RAID volume. http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/imsm/sb/CS-031491.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E46Johnny Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 @E46Johnny "there is is a version of the RST driver that could be installed from within Windows 7" if i install it that way will it wipe everything i currently have on my drives? also where can i find the one that can be used from within Windows 7? thank you guys for the help. ben Some cut and paste from Intel. Chipsets + Chipset Software + Intel® Rapid Storage Technology (Intel® RST) sorted by relevance Link: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Chipsets&ProductLine=Chipset+Software&ProductProduct=Intel%c2%ae+Rapid+Storage+Technology+(Intel%c2%ae+RST) In the link you will fiend 32 & 64 bit drivers for both F6 install and within windows driver update. Read the instruction before updating. The driver update from within windows will not delete windows, is like any other driver update (graphics, sound card etc) It`s only the HDD erase tool witch is used to restore performance on the drive If/when it starts to write slow, thats deleting all the data on the drive. The HDD erase tool sends a command to a special capacitor on the SSD disk, and this capacitor flashes the nand cells with a 21 volts short burst, and after this the nand cells are factory fresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbigbear Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 you don't need the F6 install you just need the RST driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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