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BCWipe, Possible Alternative for wiping?


JoeSchmuck

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This is for X-series SSD or P-series (not latest firmware) where a person needs to wipe out the SSD in order to restore performance.

 

There is another thread in these forums where I started talking about BCWipe as opposed to an entire disk wiper. I have tried this but unfortunately I think the fact that I have TRIM, it negates using BCWipe but I thought I should put this out there for everyone to check out and comment on. My read/write speeds are good.

 

If this works for those who don't have TRIM, then I think it's a whole lot better than backing up, erasing the drive, and restoring.

 

All you need to to is download BCWipe, install it and open the BCWipe Task Manager.

 

Select Task, Create New Task, Wipe Free Space

 

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select Local Disk (C:), select Wipe options tab

 

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select Wiping scheme Edit

 

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Select New

 

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enter new Scheme called FF, press OK

 

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select Add, select Cycled byte patterns, enter FF, click Add, click Apply and Close

 

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deselect Verify the last pass and click Apply, then OK.

 

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And you end up with this...

 

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At this point you can go ahead and run it. Just right click on the task and select Start the selected task now.

 

I would love to see the results for those folks without TRIM.

 

-Joe

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a DoD wipe writes zeros to the drive 3 times, you have 7 in your window.that sounds alot like killing the drive early. why would you use that?

 

I don't know, why would you use that?

 

Please re-read the screens again. What you are refering to is the default screen that shows up, not what I set up. I took all the screen shots as if a new user would be seeing them. We are not creating something that writes 7 times to the SSD.

 

As for the DoD specs, I'm not going there other than to say it depends on the classification level and times constantly change with respect to security.

 

-Joe

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This is another paid utility... My God, if I buy this I am up to over $100 on utilities to try and get my drive to work right. Dam, I could have just purchased another manufactures larger drive that already supports Trim and not have to mess with all the crap.

 

I am sorry, but I am getting a really bad taste in my mouth. Yes I like the idea of SSD, but if the drive is not getting much better performance than my HDD and I have to constantly mess with it......

 

Honestly, this is starting to give me a real bad taste towards Corsair.... every thread is recommending this utility or that all adding costs....

 

 

grrrrr......

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Randy,

I hear you and this may not be for you but anyone who has BCWipe, even version 3.x or better can use this. The older version 2.x does not allow custom bit patterns, that I know of. So if you, or someone you know has an old license, just apply it to the new version 4.x and it will run like a champ.

 

Of course, I still don't know if this would actually solve the problem at hand until someone tests it and posts the results. It took me about 15 minutes for a 128GB drive with just over 40GB free.

 

-Joe

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before the wipe on a p128 latest firmware

 

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll16/suris714/before.png

 

after the wipe one pass

 

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll16/suris714/Capture-7.png

 

look like is not worth the 40 bucks ,didn't get any good increase in performance :mad:

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before the wipe

 

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll16/suris714/before.png

 

after the wipe one pass

 

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll16/suris714/Capture-7.png

 

look like is not worth the 40 bucks ,didn't get any good increase in performance :mad:

 

Your results are practically identical to mine. Are you running a P-series SSD with the latest firmware? If so, I don't expect any improvement.

 

Or if you ran this on an X-series SSD, do you consider these bad benchmark tests?

 

I was hoping to find someone with an X-series, crappy benchmarks, run BCWipe, and see if that fixes it.

 

Yea, 40 bucks is steep but for those folks who have it, or maybe they want to try it for the 30 days, see if TRIM support comes out, it could be a God Send. Again, I hate all that time spent backing up, wiping a drive, restoring the drive, just to obtain some speed.

 

-Joe

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Sorry about that. I updated the first posting to note in the beginning this is for X-series or P-series (older firmware) to aleviate confusion (I hope).

 

For something free, someone could try a Freeware program called Hard Disk Scrubber 3.2. I found it at Tucows. It allows you to set up a custom setup of all 1's (FF), which is setup using the number "2" (hey, I didn't make this program). I have tried it on my machine, it's not too difficult to use but I can't tell you if it works or not because I don't have an X-series SSD.

 

I still think someone should try out BCWipe first as it is a truly reliable piece of software. If that works, you could try Hard Drisk Scrubber 3.2 to see how it faired.

 

-Joe

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Sorry about that. I updated the first posting to note in the beginning this is for X-series or P-series (older firmware) to aleviate confusion (I hope).

 

For something free, someone could try a Freeware program called Hard Disk Scrubber 3.2. I found it at Tucows. It allows you to set up a custom setup of all 1's (FF), which is setup using the number "2" (hey, I didn't make this program). I have tried it on my machine, it's not too difficult to use but I can't tell you if it works or not because I don't have an X-series SSD.

 

I still think someone should try out BCWipe first as it is a truly reliable piece of software. If that works, you could try Hard Drisk Scrubber 3.2 to see how it faired.

 

-Joe

 

 

i just tried this software. i am currently using X32 with windows 7 installed .

here is the result:

before

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after

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it really helps, but not too much...for my drive

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i just tried this software. i am currently using X32 with windows 7 installed .

here is the result:

before

[ATTACH]6307[/ATTACH]

 

after

[ATTACH]6306[/ATTACH]

 

it really helps, but not too much...for my drive

 

Those are some slow speeds. Is that normal for you? Do you have a SATA 150 connection? I'm just curios because those are the slowest speeds I've seen, both before & after. It seams like your write speeds doubled. I'm also curious what you speeds are after wiping using the methods normally used.

 

-Joe

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Those are some slow speeds. Is that normal for you? Do you have a SATA 150 connection? I'm just curios because those are the slowest speeds I've seen, both before & after. It seams like your write speeds doubled. I'm also curious what you speeds are after wiping using the methods normally used.

 

-Joe

 

it's SATAII connection. i did try wipe the whole disk and test it. it had nearly 200Mb/s read and 55MB/s write. but after i installed windows 7 and the softwares, the performance became half of original speed.

i keep looking the posts in the forums for solution, but still don't get it.

therefore, the firmware update may be my hope...

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it's SATAII connection. i did try wipe the whole disk and test it. it had nearly 200Mb/s read and 55MB/s write. but after i installed windows 7 and the softwares, the performance became half of original speed.

i keep looking the posts in the forums for solution, but still don't get it.

therefore, the firmware update may be my hope...

 

Yea, I hope when the firmware comes out you get a good speed boost.

 

Best of luck to you,

Joe

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it's SATAII connection. i did try wipe the whole disk and test it. it had nearly 200Mb/s read and 55MB/s write. but after i installed windows 7 and the softwares, the performance became half of original speed.

i keep looking the posts in the forums for solution, but still don't get it.

therefore, the firmware update may be my hope...

 

same boat here hoping for the same so your not alone

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Well that didn't help you at all. Yea, serious speeds you got there. What are your normal speeds after a speed restoring wipe via the conventional methods?

 

-Joe

 

Here is a benchmark after a clean wipe and fresh Windows install.

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Here is a benchmark after a clean wipe and fresh Windows install.

You make me jelouse!

 

So it looks like BCWipe doesn't do very much by setting it up to enter FF for the free space. Maybe if someone were to try wiping the slack space and MFT tables? Here is what the options would look like.

 

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy280/JoeSchmuck/Capture9.jpg

 

I am correct in that FF (all 1's) has to be written to the drive cells in order to set it up for a future write operation, true? You know, if I could regress my firmware I would do it just to test this out. I don't like using others as test subjects ;):

 

If you want to intentionally make your drive slow, I would think you could do a random wipe, or custom if you like, on BCWipe and hit the free spaces. I'm not asking anyone to do that since I'm sure it doesn't take long to make a drive slow on it's own. Just tossing it out there if you're a glutton for punishment.

 

I think I'll dive into what constitues an erase. I'm sure we can come up with a non-destructive method until new firmware comes out to correct this issue. Plus I'll bet there is some freeware out there to do it.

 

-Joe

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