jcossin Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 I just purchased a X64 CMFSSD-64D1 and Crystal Disk Info says TRIM is supported. Is that right? I'm all set under Windows 7 for TRIM support with no need to worry about a firmware update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Read the Sticky. http://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81189 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diecast61 Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 I have an X256 running Firmware version 1.1 Says TRIM is supported in CrystalDisk. Is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcossin Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 Read the Sticky. http://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81189 Thanks but it doesn't answer my question. Does my drive already support TRIM? Also, how can I tell what firmware is on my drive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Q: Does my X-Series SSD support the TRIM function in Windows 7? X-Series SSDs with firmware v1.0 do not support the TRIM function. Upgraded firmware revisions, including revisions with TRIM support, and updating utilities will be made available from the SSD Download Archive on the Corsair forum.At this time, TRIM is not supported. Crystaldisk is incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcossin Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 At this time, TRIM is not supported. Crystaldisk is incorrect. Ok, now I'm really confused. :confused: In this thread: http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=80757 RAMGUY responded to someone with a X series 128GB that their drive WAS supporting TRIM already because Crystaldisk said it was supporting. So apparently there are drives out there in the X Series supporting TRIM. I have the X Series 64GB and Crystaldisk says it is supported. How can I know for sure? Is there a firmware version for the 64GB X Series that supports TRIM? If so how can I tell if I have that firmware, or for that matter what version firmware I have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Ok, now I'm really confused. :confused: In this thread: http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=80757 RAMGUY responded to someone with a X series 128GB that their drive WAS supporting TRIM already because Crystaldisk said it was supporting. So apparently there are drives out there in the X Series supporting TRIM. I have the X Series 64GB and Crystaldisk says it is supported. How can I know for sure? Is there a firmware version for the 64GB X Series that supports TRIM? If so how can I tell if I have that firmware, or for that matter what version firmware I have?That was incorrect information from back in AUG 2009 when WIN 7 was still in BETA. Read the last post from DEC 9th: http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showpost.php?p=430199&postcount=16 I do not expect Microsoft's version of Trim to be fully supported till sometime next year. As I have stated Microsoft and all of the SSD Manufacturers are working on that so it will just take some more time to get it all worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuck Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 @Diecast61 Are you reading the firmware number written on the drive label or using software? And if you are using software, please tell us whe the label states. According to the FAQ, firmware 1.0 is the current release, there is no version 1.1. -Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Just found out earlier that v1.1 is now on the X256s to fix the issues they had. No info on what it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highspeeddata Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 @Diecast61 Are you reading the firmware number written on the drive label or using software? And if you are using software, please tell us whe the label states. According to the FAQ, firmware 1.0 is the current release, there is no version 1.1. -Joe Why would the label and the software not read the same. I to would be curious which one is correct. Drive is expected next week. hope its the latest FW. come windows TRIM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuck Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Just found out earlier that v1.1 is now on the X256s to fix the issues they had. No info on what it does. It's good to hear some validation that 1.1 was seen by someone else. I'm sure someone from Corsair will post the differences in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuck Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Why would the label and the software not read the same. I to would be curious which one is correct. Drive is expected next week. hope its the latest FW. come windows TRIM. I don't think the software was incorrect in this case about reporting version 1.1, as for TRIM support, I can't answer that. I have read in this forum that the software has been wrong in stating TRIM was supported. I myself have never used Crystal Disk Info software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Myers Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 I just got my X32... where would I find the firmware version number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuck Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 I just got my X32... where would I find the firmware version number? Look at the label on the bottom of the drive if it's the same location as my P128. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Diecast: As per the rules do not insult other posters. If you read what you've quoted again, he basically said that yes, it is firmware 1.1, but that TRIM support within that firmware is not confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Myers Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 any update on firmware 1,1? I am waiting to get trim on my new x32... I am concidering purchasing a 64 or 128 GB drive, and I definately like Corsair however why should I wait for Corsair to offer a trim / garbage collector when the competition is already, and has been for a while now offering updates to keep their drives working top notch. Basically, please convince me that it would benefit me to wait for Corsair versus the competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I definately like Corsair however why should I wait for Corsair to offer a trim / garbage collector when the competition is already, and has been for a while now offering updates to keep their drives working top notch. Basically, please convince me that it would benefit me to wait for Corsair versus the competition. If you do any indepth reading or research, you'll notice that these current firmware updates that the competition is offering are creating a lot of bricks. We are taking criticism for not offering these updates. However, we are not yet satisfied with the safety of these firmwares nor of the update process. So, we err to the side of caution which insures that our customers keep working drives until safe/stable updates are available as opposed to making expensive paperweights. When the updates are satisfactory we'll offer them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Myers Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Ok Yellowbeard, fair enough. I was just reading an article on Anandtech, which many people concider about as high of authority as there is. He tested 1819 and concluded that it works perfect. He did many types of test and also concluded that formating the drive and deleting a file involves Trim, as was suppose to happen, and that simply deleting a partition did not involved Trim. This was not a surprising result actually. The performance test on writes proved to be the same after Trim and were almost half without Trim enabled. They concluded that Trim does indeed work perfect in assuring drive performance remains as new! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 TRIM itself is not the issue. The problem is that there is no way yet to deploy these firmwares to end users that we believe is safe enough. We're looking at it from a support and customer service side. Some of the competitors offering these firmwares are also replacing a lot of drives. I can only imagine that there are some extremely unhappy customers out there with lost data and expensive paperweights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcossin Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 This question may be a bit premature, but just wondering... Is the firmware update going to save the data on the drive or will we need to reformat and reinstall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Myers Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I assume the firmware will require reinstall because all the ones being offered out there indeed do loose all data when applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Myers Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Yellowbeard, I can see what you mean about concerns for deploying firmware updates. As someone who has worked in technical support and still handles all technology related issues at my office and our home network I can see how many users do not and should not apply firmware updates. These same people should not do bios flashing or any other type of hardware level updates. However, for the technically adept people, who can follow technical directions; if there is an update that actually does work, if applied correctly, then we should have it available to us. If we wait until there is a method of appling a firmware update that can not be messed up by end users who should not being applying these updates in the first place, we may never have Trim for the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Yellowbeard, I can see what you mean about concerns for deploying firmware updates. As someone who has worked in technical support and still handles all technology related issues at my office and our home network I can see how many users do not and should not apply firmware updates. These same people should not do bios flashing or any other type of hardware level updates. However, for the technically adept people, who can follow technical directions; if there is an update that actually does work, if applied correctly, then we should have it available to us. If we wait until there is a method of appling a firmware update that can not be messed up by end users who should not being applying these updates in the first place, we may never have Trim for the rest of us. It's not an issue with any individuals. Some of the firmware tools themselves appear to be unstable or unreliable. For unexplained reasons, they create bricks even if there is no user error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Myers Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Ok, fair enough... I'll be patient... just want the best I can get out of my new drive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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