bud01 Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Hi, I have a pretty standard question, I hope it's ok I ask it. I make product recommendations for corporates and customers, I work for a reseller that sells direct to business and towards that end we get the standard 45,000 product data feed updated each day. I will be buying this case and will be able to recommend it only if it is available through standard chain, IE: Computer 2000, Ingram micro, Micro P etc. Management are funny about buying stuff if its not on the system unless its an important order they simply say its not available or mark it up %30 to cover costs of difficulty. Is this case going to be readly available through UK distro?, for example every model of (another brand which cant be mentioned) is available. Who is Corsair using as their main distributors in the UK? Finally I just want to say thank you to Corsair and the fine Engineers in China that must have really worked so hard to bring this great new case to Market! Xie Xie.. Thank you Bud London- 33, IT Product support, pre post sales support, Site engineer etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted June 22, 2009 Author Share Posted June 22, 2009 I will be buying this case and will be able to recommend it only if it is available through standard chain, IE: Computer 2000, Ingram micro, Micro P etc. ... Is this case going to be readly available through UK distro? Who is Corsair using as their main distributors in the UK? Search is your friend. Main website lists all of their retailers and distributors. Checking the UK shows their distributors, one of which is indeed Computer2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babongo Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 The rear filter is there to allow for the fan on the bottom of the PSU to be able to pull in cool air from below the case. The filter itself does not sit directly on the floor, its actually about 3/4 of an inch above the floor, so I would not suspect that you will need to clean the filter very often. If it were to become a problem you should be able to easily block off the filter. I work in a very dusty enviroment (African dry season). On the front of my current case, a P180, there are 2 intake fans with filters that go to about halfway up the case (about 15 inched off the floor). Both these filters have to be clean every month, otherwise it gets blocked with dust. If I were to remove the filter off all the dust would end up on the fans, motherboard and other components. Even with a 3/4 of an inch gap between the case and the floor, the case will still be drawing in dusty air, removing the filter will result in the dust plastering the motherboard and fans, not to mention opeing the door, as it were, to uninvited guest (eg lizards, roaches etc) that then get fried when the computer is turned on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babongo Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 PS Still a great case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterFazekas Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Well, if you already have to go through the trouble of cleaning your filters every month, you might aswell put in the extra effort and turn the case sideways while you take the bottom filter out for cleaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirKronan Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 August 15, 2016. Can someone please at least throw us a true estimated ship date? What could be the harm from keeping us in the loop so we don't have to sit here just wondering about it? Not everyone has unlimited time for their PC building endeavors. For example: Let's say you gave me an estimated date of a release time of Christmas for this year. That's far enough out, that there's no way I can wait that long for a particular build I need to get done, so since I know when the case is coming out, I don't have to sit here waiting, when really this is a build I need to get done as soon as possible. I can buy a different case for this job and then my wife can get me this Corsair case in Christmas for one of my own builds. But if you come out and say, "We're almost there, and we'll probably have it available around the 2nd week of July." That's worth holding off this build for. I would be able to hold of the build long enough, explaining that it's totally worth it to wait for this case. Then you'd sell one to me now and possibly another one around Christmas, too. Please don't keep us in the dark. If you're going to take a while to get the case right and re-tool some things you want a little bit different, that's FINE. In fact, please do!!! But at least give us a "real" estimate that we can plan around. $300 is not pocket change for a case. I don't mind spending that kind of money for quality, but whether it's for business or for personal computing, it makes it a lot easier to afford when we can accurately plan for it in advance. You've got all of us beyond excited to buy one of these things as well as some other Corsair parts such as RAM and PSUs. Would it be so hard to keep your faithful supporters a little more well-informed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 Ram Guy said soon if not now. An exec said in an interview from a couple of weeks ago that it would probably be August. So a summer release is a fair bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud01 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 babongo thats not a normal situation you are in there, in such enviroments as that, your premises (building) should be doing the bulk of the dust filtering? And or the computer room should be given as much care in setting up as to limit dust intake. SirKronan if your buying a case it simply has to be the 800D, Im totally sold on it myself and for good reason its the best case there is, its absolutely stunning, I think its the first case which you could classify as a decade case, one your going to keep for 10 years or more. Think about the possible extra few weeks wait if that should be the road, as investment into perfect fuction and form. In the following few months there is going to be a increase in builds due to Windows 7, Dirrect X11 cards and so forth so I hope Corsair really catch this wind, good luck to Corsair.. I actual have a question myself if thats ok.. 1-What is the UK PRICE £ excluding VAT going to be? I am hoping its going to at least reasonably sensible ? I think were all prepared to £225 but if its £325 there might be a problem to be totally honest, I hope to see the 800D nearer to £200 than to £300? Thats a really frank question and I dont really expect an answer but I'd be interested in what you guys think a fair price is to pay, how much are you all prepared to pay, and by the way.. 299.00 USD (US PRICE)= 181.695 GBP ...!!! How about we see the 800D for a fair £199 in the UK? :stickpoke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted June 23, 2009 Corsair Employees Share Posted June 23, 2009 Based on customer feedback, we're making some last minute tweaks to make the case work a bit better. They're going to delay us a bit but we should still have it out in Q3 this year. The price is going to be $250-300, but to be honest it's probably closer to $300. Hope this answers some questions for you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirKronan Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 Ram Guy said soon if not now. An exec said in an interview from a couple of weeks ago that it would probably be August. So a summer release is a fair bet. We'd much prefer July to August ... but we all understand how it goes! Throwing yourselves into the ring with a brand new product in a well-established market and lots of competitors, and with the economy where it's at, is shaky at best. I really hope this new case does well for you, and if it rocks some review sites soon, I'll find my money headed its way! (I might not even wait for reviews if I get the chance to snag one soon .... I am patient, but I've seen enough to be fairly certain Corsair is going to make this right.) And to see you testing it with EVGA x58 motherboards makes me happy as that's what I plan on using. :D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnyT Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 Can I not just buy one of those ones you had on display off you ;): I personally saw nothing wrong with :D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterFazekas Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 Can I not just buy one of those ones you had on display off you ;): I personally saw nothing wrong with :D: CPU backplate hole :laughing: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnyT Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 Well not too bothered about that really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TickleOnTheTum Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 I've been really keen on this case since seeing the videos of it at the computer show earlier in the month. I have been planning a major PC upgrade for late July over the last several months. As part of that I had drawn my idea of the ideal computer case and the 800 D is virtually identical to what I wanted. (The only difference was my idea had more intake fans for cooling). Is it likely to be suitable for an overclocked system with an i7 920 @ 3.8 - 4 GHz on air? With a pair of OC'ed 4890s (1000/4000)? I plan on getting the following and am curious whether the 800 D is suitable... intel i7 920 (d0) @ 3.8 - 4.0 GHzAsus P6T Deluxe V2TRUE 120 with 2 fans in push/pull (though may get Corsair H50 if reviews are good)2 x Sapphire 4890 Atomic pre overclockedCorsair Dominator 6G DDR3-1600Corsair Airflow Fan for RAMCreative SB X-Fi Fatal1ty Champion Titanium PCI-E Audio card4 x SATA II HDD drives. I already have a 1000W PSU My main requirements are: Excellent airflow / coolingDust filters on all intakesLots of space for installation / upgradingRoom to maybe one day change to Liquid CoolingNot too noisy (fans)Less than £300 (UK) So will it be suitable do you think? Also, is there any chance you can tell / show us what the changes are that you've made to the case based on the people here's feedback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud01 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 TickleOnTheTum I note you have not had an answer, I do not work for crosair and I like you are awaiting the release. But.. intel i7 920 (d0) @ 3.8 - 4.0 GHz Asus P6T Deluxe V2 TRUE 120 with 2 fans in push/pull (though may get Corsair H50 if reviews are good) 2 x Sapphire 4890 Atomic pre overclocked Corsair Dominator 6G DDR3-1600 Corsair Airflow Fan for RAM Creative SB X-Fi Fatal1ty Champion Titanium PCI-E Audio card 4 x SATA II HDD drives. All of that will fit in the 800D, It is able to support up to tri gpu and has 4 front sata ports.. http://i42.tinypic.com/205cyti.jpg The rest of your questions.. I already have a 1000W PSU - great. My main requirements are: Excellent airflow / cooling - that looks to be the 800d with three seperate cooling areas. Dust filters on all intakes, my understanding is the air enters the case from the base and works up and exits through the top with the base having an air filter, so I believe thats a yes? Lots of space for installation / upgrading. Did you not watch the video the case is nice and large inside and you will have plenty of space. Room to maybe one day change to Liquid Cooling, it has room for 3 cooling rad's which is just fantastic, all holes pre drilled, see above. Not too noisy (fans), this case will most likely run fans which are hi-q and able to be set at three independant speeds but check back later for a offical answer on this but of course the fans are going to be awesome smooth units which run for along time and operate how enthusiast expect, IE: perfectly. Less than £300 (UK) The US price is $299 which is roughly £200 so unless there is some kind of uk marketing error I dont think the case will retail for more than your budget. Why dont you come over and join us at the very best hardware and computer gaming forum bit tech There will not be a question you can not ask regarding modern computing that will not be answered in full and it will be a wise move to create an account for when you wish to dicuess in depth from A to Z your future watercool. You also might like to talk over your plained overclocking and air cooling methods. http://forums.bit-tech.net/ or bit tech clicky here :-) I had a question since my reason for visiting :-) but I see the answer already from the image above, it has space for three rads... I have a question to Corsair like the above poster. My question is, how many units are due to arrive in England, will there be enough to go around? Will supply take delivery of 100, 1000, 10,000? Also my last ever question.... I recommend the 800D on a computering gaming forum and one member quipped that "that hdd fan will be useless once that cover is on". What is the story with the HDD fan, will it have enough air flow to be of use, I fully expect the case has been totally designed from the ground up using the latest modeling tech, but just so Im clear and I can respond to commments about the HDD fan and air in take for it, is that ok there, I do kind of see the concern. Best regards bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share Posted June 25, 2009 TMy question is, how many units are due to arrive in England, will there be enough to go around? Will supply take delivery of 100, 1000, 10,000?I doubt you'll get an answer as that would give the competition insight to their business model. Most likely the answer you'll get is something like they'll send enough and keep supplying more if the demand is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted June 25, 2009 Corsair Employees Share Posted June 25, 2009 Excellent airflow / coolingDust filters on all intakesLots of space for installation / upgradingRoom to maybe one day change to Liquid CoolingNot too noisy (fans)Less than £300 (UK) So will it be suitable do you think? Also, is there any chance you can tell / show us what the changes are that you've made to the case based on the people here's feedback? I think that the case will be suitable for you. A few things that may be changed/altered are lowering the noise profile, and increasing the size of the area behind the board for rear CPU access so that more boards line up with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted June 26, 2009 Corsair Employees Share Posted June 26, 2009 My question is, how many units are due to arrive in England, will there be enough to go around? Will supply take delivery of 100, 1000, 10,000? Also my last ever question.... I recommend the 800D on a computering gaming forum and one member quipped that "that hdd fan will be useless once that cover is on". What is the story with the HDD fan, will it have enough air flow to be of use, I fully expect the case has been totally designed from the ground up using the latest modeling tech, but just so Im clear and I can respond to commments about the HDD fan and air in take for it, is that ok there, I do kind of see the concern. Unfortunately I do not have any information regarding initial availability of the case. The cover over the HDDs has a hole in the bottom which will have access to plenty of cool air to intake. Keep in mind that the cover is removable, so if a user wanted to experiment with other configurations they could simply remove the cover. I have not seen any tests comparing hard drive temps with and without the cover, but I would not expect there to be much of a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iiee Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 A few points i wish to add:- 1) Make the 8th slot to be real slot. This is very useful for SLI or additional USB/Firewire/etc bracket. 2) The front panel opening mechanism seems not very good as shown in the video. The ports is not the same as in computex and video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TickleOnTheTum Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Thanks for the info folks. I know it will physically fit in the case, I rather sadly have been using CorelDRAW to make technical, in scale drawings of all the parts of various components to check for physical compatibility and to make it easier to compare cases. It is more that I have concerns over the cooling performance of the 800 D than anything. This is my first overclocking project so am a little nervous to get everything right as I can't afford (literally) any mistakes! bud01: I often visit the bit-tech website but must admit that I haven't checked out the forum, I will do so now. Any ventures into liquid cooling will be in a year or two.. or three. RAM GUY: My main concern is whether the single bottom intake is going to provide enough cool air for an overclocked air cooled system. I would add the extra fan at the bottom to increase the inflow but it seems too little when you consider the likes of certain other cases, which have 230mm intake fans, etc. Has this case been designed more for liquid cooled systems than air? When are we likely to see photos / details of the revised 800 D? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterFazekas Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Tickle, how would they put an extra intake fan on the bottom of the case? For one it's compartmentalized so it wouldn't even be able to go up to the motherboard, and for two, the PSU is sitting there. The hard drives have an intake fan aswell, and you can put 3 fans on the top for intake if you want. My personal opinion is that overclocking and air cooling don't go hand in hand. And yes the Obsidian is more suited for water but it does have excellent air cooling capabilities. It's just that air cooling is highly inefficient. If you need to be on the bleeding edge so much that you want to overclock, i simply can't understand why you don't feel this. In fact i don't think i've ever seen a system that's both significantly overclocked and air cooled at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TickleOnTheTum Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Peter, there is a fan pumping up air from the PSU compartment into the Motherboard area, this gets it's air from a grill in the bottom of the PSU compartment, behind the actual PSU. It looks in the videos as though it could take an extra 120/140mm fan to bring in more air. As for air cooling, the i7 920 d0 can overclock from 2.66GHz to around 3.8GHz on air. Some have even got it up to 4GHz+ on air. For me anything over 3.06GHz is better than the old P4 I have now so is great. Do a search on the net for i7 air overclock and you'll get lots of examples... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirKronan Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Tickle, how would they put an extra intake fan on the bottom of the case? For one it's compartmentalized so it wouldn't even be able to go up to the motherboard, and for two, the PSU is sitting there. The hard drives have an intake fan aswell, and you can put 3 fans on the top for intake if you want. My personal opinion is that overclocking and air cooling don't go hand in hand. And yes the Obsidian is more suited for water but it does have excellent air cooling capabilities. It's just that air cooling is highly inefficient. If you need to be on the bleeding edge so much that you want to overclock, i simply can't understand why you don't feel this. In fact i don't think i've ever seen a system that's both significantly overclocked and air cooled at the same time. I remember the days when 4.0GHz on a quad was still considered a "significant overclock" on a 2.66GHz processor .... oh, wait. :biggrin: There are extreme air cooling overclockers, it's about preference. And the top air cooling rigs often tie or beat many of the cheaper water cooled outfits. There are advantages and disadvantages, and it all boils down to personal preference. There's nothing wrong with investigating the air cooling abilities of this case, especially since they've modified a few things now for the final (we hope!) revision. I plan on starting out with air myself, adding one loop for the CPU and chipset very soon, and later adding a second independent loop for the GPUs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterFazekas Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Peter, there is a fan pumping up air from the PSU compartment into the Motherboard area, this gets it's air from a grill in the bottom of the PSU compartment, behind the actual PSU. It looks in the videos as though it could take an extra 120/140mm fan to bring in more air. Yes, i know of that but i just don't see how an additional one could fit there with a long PSU like the HX1000W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Raabi Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I know this kind-of kills the look of the case, but how about a high-cfm 120mm intake fan mounted in a certain 3-bay fan bracket in the front of the case? I imagine something in the neighborhood of 90-140 cfm would really do the trick as far as efficient air is concerned. Also, I have looked into possibly including some fan ducting on the included bottom 120mm intake fan so as to further increase the compartmentalization of the case. This way the bottom fan will not be pulling air from the psu compartment, but instead directly from the bottom of the case. Also if you configure the rear 120 (or 140)mm fan as intake, and install 3 120mm fans as outtake on the top of the case, I imagien this 3-in 3-out setup would provide sufficient air flow. Any comments on this setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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