oupavoc Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Send me an email: redbeard@corsair.com I can help you. Thanks a lot :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Armageddon Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 If anyone is interested in putting a radiator in the bottom of the 800D for a second liquid cooling loop, I have posted a photo guide on how to do it. 800D Bottom Radiator Mod http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2462/3952913307_fa3051a340.jpg I plan on posting a build log soon, but still waiting for a few parts to get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x509 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 If anyone is interested in putting a radiator in the bottom of the 800D for a second liquid cooling loop, I have posted a photo guide on how to do it. [snipped] Hi. I've been building my own systems for about 20 years now, but I'm a total n00b when it comes to water-cooling. :o: Did you do a second cooling loop because of the total heat generated by all the components that are being liquid-cooled? ... because one single radiator would not be enough for all the heat you need to exhaust? Does two loops mean two separate pumps, or can you drive both loops with just one pump? This is probably a really n00b-ish question, :o: :o: but why not have just one loop with two radiators? :confused: Can you post a parts list, or comments on why you picked the components you did.:biggrin: To get an idea of why I'm asking these questions, please see my signature line. Thank you. Kudos on the way you modified the case and on the quality of the photos you posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Armageddon Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Did you do a second cooling loop because of the total heat generated by all the components that are being liquid-cooled? ... because one single radiator would not be enough for all the heat you need to exhaust? I'm not going to claim that two loops is absolutely necessary, but I wanted a 2 loop system for this build, so I am making it happen. I am cooling my CPU & Chipset with the first loop, and plan on cooling 2 graphics cards in SLI with the second one. I like to really push the overclocking for all my components, and I personally don't think I will get the kind of numbers I want with a single loop system. Each loop is self contained having its own reservoir, and pump. Obviously you could do one large loop, but I am using smaller pumps that fit into 5.25in bays, and I doubt that one of them alone could handle a loop that large by itself. Its just my opinion, but I think that two separate loops will work better than one large one. I also like the look of having 2 separate loops. Loop one is blue tubing with blue UV liquid. Loop two is green tubing with green UV liquid. Here is a list of the components I am/will be using for this build. I have everything except the GPUs & the waterblocks that would be used on them. I am currently just using my trusty EVGA 8800Ultra + 9800GT for PhysX. I will upgrade to the new Nvidia 300 series once they come out, and purchase water blocks for them as well, and run two of them in SLI with the 9800GT for PhysX. Loop 1: MotherBoard - EVGA X58 Classified - EK-FB KIT EVGA X58 CLASSIFIED Full Board Water Block CPU - Intel i7 Core 920 - Swiftech GTZ Black Ice X-Flow Extreme III Radiator (120mm x 3) Cooler Master 120mm Black Fan w/ Blue LED R4-L2R-20AC-GP (x3) XSPC 5.25in Bay Reservoir (Black) w/ Blue LED Swiftech MCP350 12 VDC Pump PrimoFlex Pro LRT UV Blue Tubing -3/8in. ID X 5/8in. OD PrimoChill ICE Non-Conductive Water Cooling Coolant (32 oz.)- UV Blue All fittings are BitsPower Black Sparkle Compression Fittings 3/8in. ID X 5/8in. OD Loop 2: GPU 1 - Nvidia 300x (Future Purchase) - Some waterblock by EK to cool it GPU 2 - Nvidia 300x (Future Purchase) - Some waterblock by EK to cool it Black Ice GTX 240 (120mm x 2) Cooler Master 120mm Black Fan w/ Blue LED R4-L2R-20AC-GP (x2) XSPC 5.25in Bay Reservoir (Black) w/ Green LED Swiftech MCP350 12 VDC Pump PrimoFlex Pro LRT UV Green Tubing -3/8in. ID X 5/8in. OD PrimoChill ICE Non-Conductive Water Cooling Coolant (32 oz.)- UV Green All fittings are BitsPower Black Sparkle Compression Fittings 3/8in. ID X 5/8in. OD That is everything that will be involved in my liquid cooling loops. To give you a better idea of what I am looking to do, take a look at this: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2566/3953551809_f1b87533b5.jpg If you want to see it larger go here: Corsair 800D - Dual Loop Build_LG The two pumps sit side by side in the 5.25in bay, so only one is visible from the side view. I hope to get a build log posted soon, but I am waiting on few parts. I don't know if I will actually set up the second loop yet since I will be upgrading the graphics cards hopefully in a few months. So I will probably just run Loop 1, and keep the GPU on air until then. Hopefully this information will help in your goal to build a nice Liquid Cooled system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x509 Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 You Da Man! Awesome! I hope you don't mind lowly, n00b-ish me asking you a few more questions.:o: Do you plan to water-cool your RAM? Who made those drive-bay devices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Armageddon Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Do you plan to water-cool your RAM? Who made those drive-bay devices? At this time I have no plans on liquid cooling my RAM. I have 12GB Corsair Dominator RAM, and it has the heatsinks built into the ram. I am using a RAM fan to cool them, and it seems to work just fine. I personally think the OC potential of liquid cooling your RAM isn't high enough to justify adding it to the loop. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3539/3668603163_688d6340c6.jpg To house the card reader i am using a Lian Li 5.25" to 3.5" adapter. It has a black aluminum brushed bezel so it match the case pretty well. http://www.crazypc.com/images/cases/caseaccessories/lianli515black/lianli515blackfull.jpg The Reservoirs are made By XSPC. They come standard with a blue LED, but I changed one of them to a green one to match the color of the second loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallanar Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Nice Build and thanks for the advice on the lower radiator mount. I have been thinking along the same lines. What is the fan flow direction on your rads? The X-Flow is a nice touch, almost wish I had gone with that but I have the Feser 360 Xtreme and I was really thinking along the lines of a 120 in the bottom, didn't think there would be room for a 240 with good airflow, guess I was wrong :) I Really like the looks of the XPSC reservoirs also, wish I have looked at those before my Primochill Typhoon III but it saves on having to locate the pumps as it can run a dual loop from one reservoir, cant get two colors but mine is using the blood red theme anyway. I start my mods today and realy appreciate the advice on getting rid of the lower drive bay. I am really waiting on the new video cards to come out from Nvidia so I opted to install 3 9800 GTs for now because I can use them in my kids computers when I finally get the new cards and keep one for my PhysX card. I am torn between getting the Creative Sound card or the Killer NIC card for the PCI x1 slot. I use headphones most of the time. I replaced all of the stock fans with mid speed Yate Loons and I am using the Akasa All In One 2 Fan Controller mainly because it hides all of the card slot and other connections but that is personal preference. I will start my build log with pics once the project gets moving ( I procrastinate a lot) Thanks again for the advice and pics. Some great work. http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/akal2copafor.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Armageddon Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 What is the fan flow direction on your rads? The fans on the lower GTX240 are pulling air up through the radiator from the bottom intake into the case. The fans on the top X-Flow Radiator are pushing air out of the case. I would go with the X-Fi over the Killer NIC. Even when using headphones I can tell a huge difference in the sound quality with my X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty edition over onboard sound (RealTek). I like the card reader you picked out. Be sure to post some pics once its up and running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandito Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 don't waste money on a killer nic. x-fi is excellent with headphones, cmss does a great job of making a stereo headset seem more 3 dimensional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmark Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 If anyone is interested in putting a radiator in the bottom of the 800D for a second liquid cooling loop, I have posted a photo guide on how to do it. Nice mode ! One could alter it slightly to install just fans as this case seems to need more fresh air flow than it currently provides. When I get my case I'll see if I can bring home a calibrated magnehelic gauge to see how the case performs. It would seem to me ideally one would want a slight positive pressure on the case? Bottom line is the higher the delta P is between the case and ambient the more your restricting/reducing the air flow through the case. I will be installing a TFC360 on the top of the case with 6 1850 rpm Typhoons in a push pull config., so those fans will want a lot of fresh air. Also the idea of reversing the rear fans air flow so it blows into the case seems to be a good idea regardless if your air or water cooling. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallanar Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 I installed my rad today with the xtenders and fans pushing air from inside the case out the top. I have to pull a couple of them off to install my Mobo but I think I will have room once it installed. I have to put my ek block on tomorrow. I installed the Lian Li wheels today and now it looks like a locomotive coming at you. It really came out nice and moves very easily. I didn't like how my Primo chill mounted up in the case though. It isnt really set up for a toolless bay case. I may be moving to the XPSC ones. I have a Swiftech MCP655/D5 that I will be pulling out of my Primochill if I decide to go with the XSPC Just gotta figure out if I can mount it somewhere. I may just run one for now until I get the new vid cards and use my pump I have now in the bottom of the case. Anyone have any experiences with the Koolance RP-980BK Reservoir? I can't seem to find a review. I took some pics. I will post them as soon as I get a chance tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Armageddon Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 For anyone wondering about the spacing with the 240 (120x2) bottom radiator mod on the corsair 800D, I have posted another picture. Even with the Corsair HX1000 which is a very long PSU, there is still plenty of room to work with the cables down there. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3250/3960009166_589310c9b8.jpg I will put the cable management backplate back onto the bottom section of the case once I have run my tubing to the bottom Rad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 I take it the bottom rad is sucking air from within that zone and pushing it through the rad out the bottom of the case? Or is it sucking air through the rad? Yeah, my WC knowledge isn't that broad. BTW, excellend Flickr guide! With your permission, I'll see if we can get it stickied in the Case or Enthusiast section. Not sure what Corsair's take is on mods like that on cases. FYI: RadMod_16 pic, it's a bit hard to read the neon green at the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallanar Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Nice addition to the case MA. I have spent the entire day trying to figure out what I was going to do with mine. Next weekend I am following your guide to remove the lower HD cage but my cutting will be slightly different. I am looking to drop a 140 radiator in the bottom since I have extra YL fans. I did however order two of the XSPC reservoirs for my build, yeah I liked them that much. I am planning on running a 350 pump to the lower radiator and my MCP655/D5 to the 360 up top but I have to mount the D5 in the bottom, that is why I decided on the 140 or 120. I hope there is room for the 140 with the cage out. I have to measure before I order my 140 to find out whether I go with another Feser or have to go to the DD GT stealth. My wheels went on fine and it rolls like a champ, thank God it has a brake on one of the wheels, I have 5 dogs that like to rummage around under my feet. I will try to get a pic up of the wheels installed. I also found some really cheap silicon dots to mount under my Power Supply to help keep down any noise from there. I wish I could find a good source for black oxide screws and hardware, I really hate having to install the SS ones from the local hardware store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Armageddon Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 I take it the bottom rad is sucking air from within that zone and pushing it through the rad out the bottom of the case? Or is it sucking air through the rad? The fans on the bottom radiator are pulling air from the bottom of the case (under the case), through the radiator up to the other chambers. BTW, excellend Flickr guide! With your permission, I'll see if we can get it stickied in the Case or Enthusiast section. Not sure what Corsair's take is on mods like that on cases. Sure thing. Sticky away. I'm not sure what Corsair will think either. The warranty has gone bye bye, but I'm not worried about it. FYI: RadMod_16 pic, it's a bit hard to read the neon green at the bottom. Thanks for the heads up. I fixed that part of the picture so it shows up better now. I have also started a build log for the 800D with a Dual Loop cooling setup if anyone is interested. Build Log – Corsair Obsidian 800D Liquid Cooled Dual Loop System:D: I hope to finish later this week as the rest of my parts arrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Armageddon Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 My wheels went on fine and it rolls like a champ, thank God it has a brake on one of the wheels... No kidding. I can see it now... a fully loaded 800D rolling through your house like a freight train. That collision would be painful to behold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallanar Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Wired has got me thinking of how I could set the wheels up to roll via Remote control and immediately tank traks came to mind heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 Start small - HTPC / Roomba with a beefy onboard battery. Program it to dock into a specially made docking stations around the house. Each docking station could have Power + video / sound + data (or just use WiFi). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gutcheck Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I'm not going to claim that two loops is absolutely necessary, but I wanted a 2 loop system for this build, so I am making it happen. I am cooling my CPU & Chipset with the first loop, and plan on cooling 2 graphics cards in SLI with the second one. I like to really push the overclocking for all my components, and I personally don't think I will get the kind of numbers I want with a single loop system. Each loop is self contained having its own reservoir, and pump. Obviously you could do one large loop, but I am using smaller pumps that fit into 5.25in bays, and I doubt that one of them alone could handle a loop that large by itself. Its just my opinion, but I think that two separate loops will work better than one large one. I also like the look of having 2 separate loops. Loop one is blue tubing with blue UV liquid. Loop two is green tubing with green UV liquid. Here is a list of the components I am/will be using for this build. I have everything except the GPUs & the waterblocks that would be used on them. I am currently just using my trusty EVGA 8800Ultra + 9800GT for PhysX. I will upgrade to the new Nvidia 300 series once they come out, and purchase water blocks for them as well, and run two of them in SLI with the 9800GT for PhysX. Loop 1: MotherBoard - EVGA X58 Classified - EK-FB KIT EVGA X58 CLASSIFIED Full Board Water Block CPU - Intel i7 Core 920 - Swiftech GTZ Black Ice X-Flow Extreme III Radiator (120mm x 3) Cooler Master 120mm Black Fan w/ Blue LED R4-L2R-20AC-GP (x3) XSPC 5.25in Bay Reservoir (Black) w/ Blue LED Swiftech MCP350 12 VDC Pump PrimoFlex Pro LRT UV Blue Tubing -3/8in. ID X 5/8in. OD PrimoChill ICE Non-Conductive Water Cooling Coolant (32 oz.)- UV Blue All fittings are BitsPower Black Sparkle Compression Fittings 3/8in. ID X 5/8in. OD Loop 2: GPU 1 - Nvidia 300x (Future Purchase) - Some waterblock by EK to cool it GPU 2 - Nvidia 300x (Future Purchase) - Some waterblock by EK to cool it Black Ice GTX 240 (120mm x 2) Cooler Master 120mm Black Fan w/ Blue LED R4-L2R-20AC-GP (x2) XSPC 5.25in Bay Reservoir (Black) w/ Green LED Swiftech MCP350 12 VDC Pump PrimoFlex Pro LRT UV Green Tubing -3/8in. ID X 5/8in. OD PrimoChill ICE Non-Conductive Water Cooling Coolant (32 oz.)- UV Green All fittings are BitsPower Black Sparkle Compression Fittings 3/8in. ID X 5/8in. OD That is everything that will be involved in my liquid cooling loops. To give you a better idea of what I am looking to do, take a look at this: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2566/3953551809_f1b87533b5.jpg If you want to see it larger go here: Corsair 800D - Dual Loop Build_LG The two pumps sit side by side in the 5.25in bay, so only one is visible from the side view. I hope to get a build log posted soon, but I am waiting on few parts. I don't know if I will actually set up the second loop yet since I will be upgrading the graphics cards hopefully in a few months. So I will probably just run Loop 1, and keep the GPU on air until then. Hopefully this information will help in your goal to build a nice Liquid Cooled system. Holy mother of God that is so freaking cool!!!!!!!!!! Ok, I think I must WC. I've never done it before and I am scared, but I think I must. I am going to use an H50 for the CPU, but I want to try and build a loop for VC cooling and SLI either 2 300's when they come out, or 2 295's. This is exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Armageddon Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Just finished my Liquid Cooled build using this case. Absolutely love it. Made cable management so easy, and lots of room to work in. Check out the build log here: Project Turambar: Corsair Obsidian 800D Liquid Cooled Dual Loop System http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3460/3981743255_944bacc3c6.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayneli613 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Just finished my Liquid Cooled build using this case. Absolutely love it. Made cable management so easy, and lots of room to work in. Check out the build log here: Project Turambar: Corsair Obsidian 800D Liquid Cooled Dual Loop System http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3460/3981743255_944bacc3c6.jpg Could you please tell me where can i but the water cooler parts? Thank you very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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