Antono Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 Hi i currently waiting fore my TW3X4G1600C9DHX to ship in after i returned 2 rim's of an other brand to my supplier witch would cause my system not to boot i chose this new set because they seem to be supporting XMP Im hoping this will work properly fore this board or do i need to set these rims up manually? The thing that confuses me is that the CPU FSB seems to effect memory FSB (yup im a noob lol) I could use al advice on how to get this system running i already flashed my bios to 1902 and i will proly flash it up to 2004 as soon as my new ram comes in Last time i could not get it to run properly (with my old set of ram) even with only one rim vista setup would just stop right before the 32/64b question (These new rims will proly com in Wednesday) Thanks in advance :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antono Posted April 8, 2009 Author Share Posted April 8, 2009 today i got my new set of ram unfortunatly my system wil stil only boot wen i have only une rim instaled i tryed several setings including seting to XMP but wen i select XMP a gray line apears right beneat the AI overclock tuner line saying XMP :disabeled dus this mean these modules dont suport XMP? Can annyune advice me on proper setings please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Only the DHXIN modules will have XMP. You need to raise the CPU FSB to gain 1600Mhz on the memory. Insert a single stick of memory in the slot 2 (Second from the CPU). Download Memtest86+ V2.11 from--->Hereand extract the ISO image. Burn the ISO image to an CD-ROM disk. Download CPU-z from Here .AI Tweaker Configure System Performance SettingsAi Overclock Tuner = Manual eXtreme Memory Profile = Disabled CPU Ratio Setting = 7.5 FSB Strap to Northbridge = 333 FSB = 400 DRAM Timing Control = Manual DRAM Frequency = DDR3-1600 DRAM Command Rate = 2N DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A = Auto DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B = Auto DRAM Timing Control = Manual CAS# Latency = 9 RAS# to CAS# Delay = 9 RAS# PRE Time = 9 RAS# ACT Time = 24 All Else to Auto DRAM Static Read Control = Disabled DRAM Dynamic Write Control = Disabled Transaction Booster = Auto CPU Voltage = Auto CPU PLL Voltage = Auto FSB Termination Voltage = Auto DRAM Voltage = 1.7v NB Voltage = 1.30v SB Voltage = Auto Clock Over-Charging Voltage = Auto Load Line Calibration = Disabled CPU GTL Voltage Reference = 67% NB GTL Voltage Reference: 63% CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled USB Legacy Mode = Disabled (For Memtest, Enabled Afterwards) Shut the system down. Insert the second stick in the slot 4 (farthest away from the CPU). Boot to the Memtest CD and allow for two full passes. If stable, enter Windows and post screenshots of CPU-z's CPU, Memory and SPD tabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antono Posted April 8, 2009 Author Share Posted April 8, 2009 Thanks fore your eford m8 i have to go to work nou il try your advice tomorow and let you know how it worked out :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted April 8, 2009 Corsair Employees Share Posted April 8, 2009 NP Please let us know if you have any more questions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antono Posted April 9, 2009 Author Share Posted April 9, 2009 Hi i just tryed to aply your settings unfortunatly some of your setings dont match my system: first i can only set CPU ratio to eighter 6 or 7 there is no DRam command rate seting CPU and NB GTL volage ref cant be set per Percentage there is: CPU GTL ref(0/2) (availeble settings: min 0.370x max 0.760x) CPU GTL ref(1/3) (availeble settings: min 0.410x max 0.800x) NB GTL ref (availeble settings: min 0.370x max 0.760x) I left al GTL ref setings at auto fore nou il post al my setings tomorow srry i dont have time today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antono Posted April 12, 2009 Author Share Posted April 12, 2009 Ok i just was able to boot fore first time with 2 rims using these settings: Ai Overclocker Tuner: Manual CPU Ratio Setting:7 FSB Frequency: 400 PCIE Frequency: 100 FSB Strap To North Bridge: 400 DRAM Frequency: DDR3_1600 DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto DRAM Timing Control: Manual CAS Latency: 9 DRAM RAS to CAS Delay: 9 DRAM RAS Precharge: 9 DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge: 24 RAS TO RAS Delay: Auto Row Refresh Cycle Time: Auto Write Recovery Time: Auto Read To Precharge Time: Auto Read to Write Delay(S/D): Auto Write to Read Delay(S): Auto Write to Read Delay(D): Auto Read to Read Delay(S): Auto Read to Read Delay(D): Auto Write to Write Delay(S): Auto Write to Write Delay(D): Auto Write to Pre Delay: Auto Read to Pre Delay: Auto Pre to Pre Delay: Auto All Pre to ACT Delay: Auto All Pre to REF Delay: Auto DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled DRAM Dynamic Write Control: Enabled DRAM Read Training: Enabled DRAM Write Training: Enabled MEM OC Charger: Enabled Ai Clock Twister: auto AI Transaction Booster: Auto CPU Voltage: Auto CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): Auto CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): Auto CPU PLL Voltage: Auto FSB Termination Voltage: Auto DRAM Voltage: 1.8 NB Voltage: 1.16 NB GTL Voltage: Auto SB Voltage: auto PCIE SATA Voltage: Auto Load-Line Calibration: Enabled CPU Spread Spectrum: desabled PCIE Spread Spectrum: desabled CPU Clock Skew: Auto NB Clock Skew: Auto CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized Unfortunatly nou my system freezes al the time at random duing startup :S second symptom: i never get any post beeps (i connected my speaker + to the top right pin and the - to the one left of that one) Third symptom: When I push power button the system first starts running fore a sec then it stops (no more power) and then it actually starts to boot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antono Posted April 12, 2009 Author Share Posted April 12, 2009 Ok i had some help on the MB maufacturer's forum with this and i actualy got it to boot using the abauve setings exept fore NB voltage witch had to be set to 1.30V however the system nou dussend boot annymore in the adviced orange slots only when usingthe black slots i get it to boot with both rims :confused: however it wil freeze while instaling drivers:mad: i realy neeed some help here thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 I would RMA the mainboard. The settings that were given you should work as they are standard for your motherboard and the memory. The settings you show are not set the way I have learned to set these BIOS. I have found that the 400MHz strapping often when set can be a bit wonky and so I set to either 266 or 333Mhz straps. I have found that Static Write Control at Auto relieves startup issues I have found when set to enabled. You have already gone through enough testing and at this time, I personally move to RMA. Ok i had some help on the MB maufacturer's forum with this and i actualy got it to boot using the abauve setings exept fore NB voltage witch had to be set to 1.30V however the system nou dussend boot annymore in the adviced orange slots only when usingthe black slots i get it to boot with both rims :confused: however it wil freeze while instaling drivers:mad: i realy neeed some help here thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antono Posted April 13, 2009 Author Share Posted April 13, 2009 Thanks fore your advice thing is this alreddy is my second board and second set of RAM :S About the straping i can only set to 200 ore 400 others wil result in a Dram FSB of 1601 MHz Edit setting strap to 200 results in not even booting with 1 rim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antono Posted April 20, 2009 Author Share Posted April 20, 2009 Well i did send my MB on a RMA trip today. But could someone confirm that this set of ram is working with this board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted April 20, 2009 Corsair Employees Share Posted April 20, 2009 Yes but only at DDR1333 unless you over clock the CPU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antono Posted April 21, 2009 Author Share Posted April 21, 2009 Ok thanks would 400 fsb x7 do? (i do have a pritty good cooler with 4 copper heatpipes and a 120 mm fan) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted April 21, 2009 Corsair Employees Share Posted April 21, 2009 Dont know you will just have to try it and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antono Posted April 22, 2009 Author Share Posted April 22, 2009 Uhh you dont know if 2800 MHz wil get my mem running at 1600MHz??:bigeyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Uhh you dont know if 2800 MHz wil get my mem running at 1600MHz??:bigeyes: :confused: He knows that the BIOS will allow you to make those settings. What no one knows is if your hardware is capable of running those settings. So, as noted, since you have the system there with you, you are the only person that can test it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antono Posted April 26, 2009 Author Share Posted April 26, 2009 wel i know you people cant promice me my hardware wont fry but im only asking what CPU speed i would need to get my memory to run at 1600 MHz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 It depends on the FSB you use and what memory divider option you use. The only way to know is to set the BIOS and test it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted April 27, 2009 Corsair Employees Share Posted April 27, 2009 With an Intel chipset MB the Memory Frequency cannot be more than the CPU FSB so with the current CPU and with out over clocking the CPU the fastest you can run the memory would be DDR1333. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Ok thanks would 400 fsb x7 do? (i do have a pritty good cooler with 4 copper heatpipes and a 120 mm fan) You need to look in your BIOS for the memory frequency options. "IF" your BIOS offers a 1:2 memory divider, you should be able to set the FSB at 400 and set the memory at 1600. As I said earlier; specmike It depends on the FSB you use and what memory divider option you use. The only way to know is to set the BIOS and test it. According to ASUS, if you can run 400FSB, you should have a 1600 option in the BIOS: http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=2273&l1=3&l2=11&l3=709&l4=0 P5Q3 Deluxe/WiFi-AP @n Intel LGA775 Platform Intel® P45 chipset Dual-channel DDR3 2000(O.C.)/1600/1333/1066 MHz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antono Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 Oki thanks fore clearing that up fore me i just did not uderstand how exactly my cpu fsb culd ever be 1600 MHz but if i understand corectly nou its counted per core so 4 times 400 makes 1600 thanks again fore your time :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Oki thanks fore clearing that up fore me i just did not uderstand how exactly my cpu fsb culd ever be 1600 MHz but if i understand corectly nou its counted per core so 4 times 400 makes 1600 thanks again fore your time :) It has nothing to do with the number of cores. The FSB is the same for each core. This may help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quad_Data_Rate From the link: Quad data rate (or quad pumping) is a communication signaling technique wherein data is transmitted at four points in the clock cycle: on the rising and falling edges, and at two intermediate points between them. The intermediate points are defined by a 2nd clock that is 90° out of phase from the first. The effect is to deliver four bits of data per signal line per clock cycle. In a quad data rate system, the data lines operate at twice the frequency of the clock signal. This is in contrast to double data rate systems where the clock and data lines operate at the same frequency. QDR technology was introduced by Intel in their Willamette core Pentium 4 CPU, and is currently employed in their Pentium 4, Celeron, Pentium D, and Core 2 Processor ranges. This technology has allowed Intel to produce chipsets and microprocessors which can communicate with each other at data rates expected of the traditional FSB technology running from 400 MT/s to 1600 MT/s, while maintaining a lower and stable actual clock frequency of 100 MHz to 400 MHz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antono Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 It has nothing to do with the number of cores. The FSB is the same for each core. This may help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quad_Data_Rate From the link: Lol just when i think im starting to understand Ohh wel i just got my MB back from RMA and its nou running perfect (it seems) It boots using both rims instaled in the orange slots using folowing settings: BIOS Ver: 1201 Ai Overclocker Tuner: Manual CPU Ratio Setting:7 FSB Frequency: 400 PCIE Frequency: 100 FSB Strap To North Bridge: 400 DRAM Frequency: DDR3_1600 DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto DRAM Timing Control: Manual CAS Latency: 9 DRAM RAS to CAS Delay: 9 DRAM RAS Precharge: 9 DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge: 24 RAS TO RAS Delay: Auto Row Refresh Cycle Time: Auto Write Recovery Time: Auto Read To Precharge Time: Auto Read to Write Delay(S/D): Auto Write to Read Delay(S): Auto Write to Read Delay(D): Auto Read to Read Delay(S): Auto Read to Read Delay(D): Auto Write to Write Delay(S): Auto Write to Write Delay(D): Auto Write to Pre Delay: Auto Read to Pre Delay: Auto Pre to Pre Delay: Auto All Pre to ACT Delay: Auto All Pre to REF Delay: Auto DRAM Static Read Control: Auto DRAM Dynamic Write Control: Auto DRAM Read Training: Auto DRAM Write Training: Auto MEM OC Charger: Auto Ai Clock Twister: auto AI Transaction Booster: Auto CPU Voltage: Auto CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): Auto CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): Auto CPU PLL Voltage: Auto FSB Termination Voltage: Auto DRAM Voltage: 1.8 (yellow) NB Voltage: 1.30 (yellow) NB GTL Voltage: Auto SB Voltage: auto PCIE SATA Voltage: Auto Load-Line Calibration: Auto CPU Spread Spectrum: Auto PCIE Spread Spectrum: Auto CPU Clock Skew: Auto NB Clock Skew: Auto CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized I just ran 3D mark 06 and it scored 13878 i duno if thats good or bad though :) Here's a screeny of CPUZ: Ohh aperantly i cant post screenshots here ?? Annyway sinds the CPU mutiplyer is stil fliping between 6 and 7 im thinking of disabeling C1E Suport in the Advanced.CPU settings however i duno if this is safe All other advice on finetuning my system is also welcome Ohh also what i find weird is this board came with Bios version 1201 were the other two boards came with 1307 if i remember corectly.Nou normaly i update the bios right away when i get a new board.But sinds i had so much truble i think i leave it like it is Hope this wil be of help fore somune dealing with simular problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Good to hear you have it going now. And your 3DMark score seems good for a single card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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