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Hi i currently waiting fore my TW3X4G1600C9DHX to ship in after i returned 2 rim's of an other brand to my supplier witch would cause my system not to boot i chose this new set because they seem to be supporting XMP Im hoping this will work properly fore this board or do i need to set these rims up manually?

 

The thing that confuses me is that the CPU FSB seems to effect memory FSB (yup im a noob lol)

 

I could use al advice on how to get this system running i already flashed my bios to 1902 and i will proly flash it up to 2004 as soon as my new ram comes in

Last time i could not get it to run properly (with my old set of ram) even with only one rim vista setup would just stop right before the 32/64b question

 

(These new rims will proly com in Wednesday)

Thanks in advance :)

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today i got my new set of ram

unfortunatly my system wil stil only boot wen i have only une rim instaled

i tryed several setings including seting to XMP but wen i select XMP a gray line apears right beneat the AI overclock tuner line saying XMP :disabeled dus this mean these modules dont suport XMP?

 

Can annyune advice me on proper setings please?

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Only the DHXIN modules will have XMP. You need to raise the CPU FSB to gain 1600Mhz on the memory. Insert a single stick of memory in the slot 2 (Second from the CPU).

Download Memtest86+ V2.11 from--->

and extract the ISO image. Burn the ISO image to an CD-ROM disk.

Download CPU-z from
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AI Tweaker

Configure System Performance SettingsAi Overclock Tuner = Manual
    eXtreme Memory Profile = Disabled
CPU Ratio Setting = 7.5
FSB Strap to Northbridge = 333
FSB = 400
DRAM Timing Control = Manual
DRAM Frequency = DDR3-1600
DRAM Command Rate = 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A = Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B = Auto
DRAM Timing Control = Manual
CAS# Latency =  9
RAS# to CAS# Delay = 9
RAS# PRE Time = 9
RAS# ACT Time = 24
All Else to Auto
DRAM Static Read Control = Disabled
DRAM Dynamic Write Control = Disabled
Transaction Booster = Auto
CPU Voltage = Auto
CPU PLL Voltage = Auto
FSB Termination Voltage = Auto
DRAM Voltage = 1.7v
NB Voltage = 1.30v
SB Voltage = Auto
Clock Over-Charging Voltage = Auto
Load Line Calibration = Disabled
CPU GTL Voltage Reference = 67%
NB GTL Voltage Reference: 63%
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled

USB Legacy Mode = Disabled (For Memtest, Enabled Afterwards)

 

Shut the system down. Insert the second stick in the slot 4 (farthest away from the CPU). Boot to the Memtest CD and allow for two full passes. If stable, enter Windows and post screenshots of CPU-z's CPU, Memory and SPD tabs.

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Hi i just tryed to aply your settings unfortunatly some of your setings dont match my system:

 

first i can only set CPU ratio to eighter 6 or 7

there is no DRam command rate seting

CPU and NB GTL volage ref cant be set per Percentage

there is:

CPU GTL ref(0/2) (availeble settings: min 0.370x max 0.760x)

CPU GTL ref(1/3) (availeble settings: min 0.410x max 0.800x)

NB GTL ref (availeble settings: min 0.370x max 0.760x)

 

I left al GTL ref setings at auto fore nou

 

il post al my setings tomorow srry i dont have time today

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Ok i just was able to boot fore first time with 2 rims using these settings:

 

Ai Overclocker Tuner: Manual

CPU Ratio Setting:7

FSB Frequency: 400

PCIE Frequency: 100

FSB Strap To North Bridge: 400

DRAM Frequency: DDR3_1600

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto

DRAM Timing Control: Manual

CAS Latency: 9

DRAM RAS to CAS Delay: 9

DRAM RAS Precharge: 9

DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge: 24

RAS TO RAS Delay: Auto

Row Refresh Cycle Time: Auto

Write Recovery Time: Auto

Read To Precharge Time: Auto

Read to Write Delay(S/D): Auto

Write to Read Delay(S): Auto

Write to Read Delay(D): Auto

Read to Read Delay(S): Auto

Read to Read Delay(D): Auto

Write to Write Delay(S): Auto

Write to Write Delay(D): Auto

Write to Pre Delay: Auto

Read to Pre Delay: Auto

Pre to Pre Delay: Auto

All Pre to ACT Delay: Auto

All Pre to REF Delay: Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled

DRAM Dynamic Write Control: Enabled

DRAM Read Training: Enabled

DRAM Write Training: Enabled

MEM OC Charger: Enabled

Ai Clock Twister: auto

AI Transaction Booster: Auto

CPU Voltage: Auto

CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): Auto

CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): Auto

CPU PLL Voltage: Auto

FSB Termination Voltage: Auto

DRAM Voltage: 1.8

NB Voltage: 1.16

NB GTL Voltage: Auto

SB Voltage: auto

PCIE SATA Voltage: Auto

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum: desabled

PCIE Spread Spectrum: desabled

CPU Clock Skew: Auto

NB Clock Skew: Auto

CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized

 

 

Unfortunatly nou my system freezes al the time at random duing startup :S

 

second symptom:

 

i never get any post beeps (i connected my speaker + to the top right pin and the - to the one left of that one)

 

Third symptom:

 

When I push power button the system first starts running fore a sec then it stops (no more power)

 

and then it actually starts to boot

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Ok i had some help on the MB maufacturer's forum with this and i actualy got it to boot using the abauve setings exept fore NB voltage witch had to be set to 1.30V however the system nou dussend boot annymore in the adviced orange slots only when usingthe black slots i get it to boot with both rims :confused: however it wil freeze while instaling drivers:mad:

i realy neeed some help here thanks

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I would RMA the mainboard. The settings that were given you should work as they are standard for your motherboard and the memory. The settings you show are not set the way I have learned to set these BIOS. I have found that the 400MHz strapping often when set can be a bit wonky and so I set to either 266 or 333Mhz straps. I have found that Static Write Control at Auto relieves startup issues I have found when set to enabled. You have already gone through enough testing and at this time, I personally move to RMA.

 

Ok i had some help on the MB maufacturer's forum with this and i actualy got it to boot using the abauve setings exept fore NB voltage witch had to be set to 1.30V however the system nou dussend boot annymore in the adviced orange slots only when usingthe black slots i get it to boot with both rims :confused: however it wil freeze while instaling drivers:mad:

i realy neeed some help here thanks

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Thanks fore your advice thing is this alreddy is my second board and second set of RAM :S

About the straping i can only set to 200 ore 400 others wil result in a Dram FSB of 1601 MHz

 

Edit setting strap to 200 results in not even booting with 1 rim

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Uhh you dont know if 2800 MHz wil get my mem running at 1600MHz??:bigeyes:
:confused:

 

He knows that the BIOS will allow you to make those settings. What no one knows is if your hardware is capable of running those settings. So, as noted, since you have the system there with you, you are the only person that can test it.

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Ok thanks would 400 fsb x7 do? (i do have a pritty good cooler with 4 copper heatpipes and a 120 mm fan)

 

You need to look in your BIOS for the memory frequency options. "IF" your BIOS offers a 1:2 memory divider, you should be able to set the FSB at 400 and set the memory at 1600.

 

As I said earlier;

 

specmike It depends on the FSB you use and what memory divider option you use. The only way to know is to set the BIOS and test it.

 

 

According to ASUS, if you can run 400FSB, you should have a 1600 option in the BIOS:

 

http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=2273&l1=3&l2=11&l3=709&l4=0

 

P5Q3 Deluxe/WiFi-AP @n

 

 

Intel LGA775 Platform

Intel® P45 chipset

Dual-channel DDR3 2000(O.C.)/1600/1333/1066 MHz

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Oki thanks fore clearing that up fore me i just did not uderstand how exactly my cpu fsb culd ever be 1600 MHz but if i understand corectly nou its counted per core so 4 times 400 makes 1600 thanks again fore your time :)
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Oki thanks fore clearing that up fore me i just did not uderstand how exactly my cpu fsb culd ever be 1600 MHz but if i understand corectly nou its counted per core so 4 times 400 makes 1600 thanks again fore your time :)

 

It has nothing to do with the number of cores. The FSB is the same for each core. This may help:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quad_Data_Rate

 

From the link:

 

Quad data rate (or quad pumping) is a communication signaling technique wherein data is transmitted at four points in the clock cycle: on the rising and falling edges, and at two intermediate points between them. The intermediate points are defined by a 2nd clock that is 90° out of phase from the first. The effect is to deliver four bits of data per signal line per clock cycle.

 

In a quad data rate system, the data lines operate at twice the frequency of the clock signal. This is in contrast to double data rate systems where the clock and data lines operate at the same frequency.

 

QDR technology was introduced by Intel in their Willamette core Pentium 4 CPU, and is currently employed in their Pentium 4, Celeron, Pentium D, and Core 2 Processor ranges. This technology has allowed Intel to produce chipsets and microprocessors which can communicate with each other at data rates expected of the traditional FSB technology running from 400 MT/s to 1600 MT/s, while maintaining a lower and stable actual clock frequency of 100 MHz to 400 MHz.

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It has nothing to do with the number of cores. The FSB is the same for each core. This may help:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quad_Data_Rate

 

From the link:

 

Lol just when i think im starting to understand

 

Ohh wel i just got my MB back from RMA and its nou running perfect (it seems)

It boots using both rims instaled in the orange slots using folowing settings:

BIOS Ver: 1201

Ai Overclocker Tuner: Manual

CPU Ratio Setting:7

FSB Frequency: 400

PCIE Frequency: 100

FSB Strap To North Bridge: 400

DRAM Frequency: DDR3_1600

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto

DRAM Timing Control: Manual

CAS Latency: 9

DRAM RAS to CAS Delay: 9

DRAM RAS Precharge: 9

DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge: 24

RAS TO RAS Delay: Auto

Row Refresh Cycle Time: Auto

Write Recovery Time: Auto

Read To Precharge Time: Auto

Read to Write Delay(S/D): Auto

Write to Read Delay(S): Auto

Write to Read Delay(D): Auto

Read to Read Delay(S): Auto

Read to Read Delay(D): Auto

Write to Write Delay(S): Auto

Write to Write Delay(D): Auto

Write to Pre Delay: Auto

Read to Pre Delay: Auto

Pre to Pre Delay: Auto

All Pre to ACT Delay: Auto

All Pre to REF Delay: Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Auto

DRAM Dynamic Write Control: Auto

DRAM Read Training: Auto

DRAM Write Training: Auto

MEM OC Charger: Auto

Ai Clock Twister: auto

AI Transaction Booster: Auto

CPU Voltage: Auto

CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): Auto

CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): Auto

CPU PLL Voltage: Auto

FSB Termination Voltage: Auto

DRAM Voltage: 1.8 (yellow)

NB Voltage: 1.30 (yellow)

NB GTL Voltage: Auto

SB Voltage: auto

PCIE SATA Voltage: Auto

Load-Line Calibration: Auto

CPU Spread Spectrum: Auto

PCIE Spread Spectrum: Auto

CPU Clock Skew: Auto

NB Clock Skew: Auto

CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized

 

I just ran 3D mark 06 and it scored 13878 i duno if thats good or bad though :)

Here's a screeny of CPUZ: Ohh aperantly i cant post screenshots here ??

Annyway sinds the CPU mutiplyer is stil fliping between 6 and 7 im thinking of disabeling C1E Suport in the Advanced.CPU settings however i duno if this is safe

All other advice on finetuning my system is also welcome

 

Ohh also what i find weird is this board came with Bios version 1201 were the other two boards came with 1307 if i remember corectly.Nou normaly i update the bios right away when i get a new board.But sinds i had so much truble i think i leave it like it is

 

Hope this wil be of help fore somune dealing with simular problems

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