Dave3d Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Hello. Not sure if this is the correct location for this post or not. I didnt see a 'memory' specific section (OC only section for memory). I am trying to get my system stable. It will crash at 'mobo' default settings of 1333 on the memory while gaming. If I use EPP settings, it sets it memory to 1600 (unlinked), and crashes on desktop load. If I put the memory on ANY setting over 1333, it crashes on desktop load. So, basically, it crashes on 1333 AND on reference 1600. Can anyone help? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave3d Posted September 15, 2008 Author Share Posted September 15, 2008 Oh, and in case it is needed, here is some bios info: BIOS Version: Goes by too fast to see. **System ** CPU Freq, MHz: 3.33 GHZ FSB Reference Clock, MHz: 1333 CPU Multiplier: [10X] PCle x16-1 & 16-2, MHz: [100] PCle x16-3, MHz: [100] SPPc->MCP Ref Clock, MHz: [200] nForce SPP --> nForce MCP: [5X] nForce SPP c-- nForce MCP: [5X] **Spread Spectrum** CPU Spread Spectrum: [Disabled] HT Spread Spectrum: [Auto] ***** PCle Spread Spectrurn(SPP): [Disabled] PCle Spread Spectrurn(MCP): [Disabled] SATA Spread Spectrum: [Auto] ***** **FSB & Memorv Config** FSB - Memory Clock Mode: [Auto] **** FSB - Memory Ratio: [Auto] **** FSB (QDR), MHz: [1333] Actual FSB (QDR), MHz: 1333 x MEM (DDR), MHz: 1333 Actual MEM (DDR), MHz: 1333 P1: [AUTO] P2: [AUTO] **Memory Timing Setting** Memory Timing Setting: [Expert] tCL (CAS Latency): 9 tRCD: 9 tRP: 9 tRAS: 24 Command Per Clock: [2T] ** Advanced Memory Settings ** tRRD: [Auto] 5 tRC: [Auto] 34 tWR: [Auto] 12 tWTR: [Auto] 17 tFAW: [Auto] 26 tREF: [Auto] 7.7us Trfc: [Auto] 110-111ns **System Voltages** CPU Core: [1.2] CPU FSB: [1.1] Memory: [1.8] nForce SPP: [1.32] nForce MCP: [1.5] GTLVREF Lane 0: [Auto] 00 GTLVREF Lane 1: [Auto] 00 GTLVREF Lane 2: [Auto] 00 GTLVREF Lane 3: [Auto] 00 **CPU Configuration** Limit CPUlD Maxval: Disabled Intel Speedstep: Disabled xPPM Mode: [Native] CPU Thermal Control: [Disabled] C1E Enhanced Halt State: [Disabled] Execute Disable Bit: [Enabled] Virtualization Technology: [Disabled] CPU Core 0: [Enabled] CPU Core 1: [Enabled] CPU Core 2: [Enabled] CPU Core 3: [Enabled] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Download Memtest86+ V2.01 from--->Here. Download CPU-z from Here.For your DRAM to run at 1600Mhz you must set your FSB to 400Mhz to achieve the 1:1 ratio that Intel demands as a minimum. Enter your BIOS. Load setup defaults, save setup defaults and set to these values: Extreme Tweaker CPU Level Up = Disabled Memory Level Up = Disabled AI Overclock Tuner = Manual CPU Multiplier = 10 FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Unlinked FSB (QDR) = 1600 (400) MEM (DDR) = 1600 (800) LDT Frequency = 5X PCIE BUS, Slot 1 & 2, Mhz = 100 PCIE BUS, Slot 3, Mhz = 100 SPP <--> Ref Clock, Mhz = 200 Memory Timing Section tCL (CAS Latency) = 9 tRCD = 9 tRP = 9 tRAS = 24 Command Per Clock = 2T Advanced Memory Settings tRRD = Auto tRC = Auto tWR = Auto tWTR = Auto tFAW = Auto tREF = Auto Over Voltage = All Set to Auto CPU Configuration CPU Internal Thermal Control = Auto Lmit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled Execute Disable Bit = Enabled Virtualization Technology = Enabled Enhanced Intel Speedstep(tm) Tech = Disabled CPU Core 2 = Enabled CPU Core 3 = Enabled CPU Core 4 = Enabled [b]System Voltages[/b] CPU Core = Auto CPU FSB = Auto Memory = 1.7v nForce SPP = Auto nForce MCP = 1.55 HT nForce SPP <-> MCP = Auto Run Memtest for two full passes. When assured of stable DRAM, then enter Windows and run CPU-z. Please post screenshots of the CPU-z CPU, Memory and SPD tabs. If you have memory issues, remove one stick and Memtest with one stick in the slot closest to the CPU. Remove the stick and test with the second one in place. Results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave3d Posted September 15, 2008 Author Share Posted September 15, 2008 I will run memtest tonight. But, again, I cannot go over 1333 without the computer crashing on bootup. I cant even do 1334 on the memory. And a cpu-z screenshot should not be warrented, with all of the bios info I just posted (which shows 10 times more than cpu-z does). But, ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave3d Posted September 15, 2008 Author Share Posted September 15, 2008 Can you tell me what to set settings to for 1333, so I can actually boot into windows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted September 15, 2008 Corsair Employees Share Posted September 15, 2008 Please make sure that you have the latest bios and load setup defaults and then set the memory Voltage to 1.8-1.9 Volts then set the timings manually to the tested settings for the specific module you have, and test the modules one at a time with http://www.memtest.org to be sure one is not failing. If you still get errors, please follow the link in my signature “I think I have a bad part!” and we will be happy to replace them or it! However, if you get errors with both modules that would suggest some other problem and I would test them in another system or MB to be sure. In addition, with some MB's (Mostly ASUS) you have to disable legacy USB in the bios when running any memory test. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 And a cpu-z screenshot should not be warrented, with all of the bios info I just posted (which shows 10 times more than cpu-z does). Does it show the SPD ROM readout for speed and timings? I don't see that anywhere. Does it show the SPD JEDEC readout? I don't see that anywhere either. Set to the values shown, boot to memtest and test. Try this with a single stick. Remove the stick and try with the other stick. Same results? Crash on bootup with either stick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave3d Posted September 15, 2008 Author Share Posted September 15, 2008 DerekT. Sorry, I did not mean to sound like I was being a dick. I was seriously wondering why. Now I know why. :) Thanx. Here is a cpu-z shot (the exact memory I have, but not mine since I am at work) of the spd tab. I now notice that it has looser timings at 1333, but less voltage also. I will run memtest when I get home. 1 time on both sticks at the same time? Then, if there are errors, 1 stick at a time? I will also try booting at 1600 per specs with only 1 stick. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted September 15, 2008 Corsair Employees Share Posted September 15, 2008 Running the memory at DDR1333 I would try and reset the BIOS and see if it will post and then load setup defaults and set the tested settings and Voltage to 1.7-1.8 Volts and set the TRFC to 72 and TWR to 10 Then see if it will post and pass http://www.memtest.org with legacy USB Disabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 @ Dave3d, Not to worry :) @RAMGUY, I notice in the CPU-z SPD tabs, there is only 1333Mhz as a top end. Is there possibly an error on the Rom listing that shows 1600C9? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave3d Posted September 16, 2008 Author Share Posted September 16, 2008 @DerekT There are too many EPP profiles for cpu-z to display them all. This was noted in a Tomshardware ddr3 1600 roundup review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted September 16, 2008 Corsair Employees Share Posted September 16, 2008 Let's try replacing them, please use the On Line RMA Request Form and we will be happy to replace them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave3d Posted September 16, 2008 Author Share Posted September 16, 2008 Hey RamGuy. The memory passes multiple instances of memtest at 1600. The computer just crashes when trying to load the desktop at 1600, or at anything above 1333). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave3d Posted September 16, 2008 Author Share Posted September 16, 2008 Another update. The computer 'seems' to be stable at 1333, at 9 10 10 25 34(trc) 2t. But, this is damn slow. Games are 'hitching', and I still cant run at rated 1600 w/o crashing. Please advise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave3d Posted September 16, 2008 Author Share Posted September 16, 2008 Yet one more update. Got 1600 to boot without crashing, using the above timings, but 1.9v. Will play some more and see if I get crash/hang. This is SO far away from the specified timings tho. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 You could always RMA them like RG suggested :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave3d Posted September 16, 2008 Author Share Posted September 16, 2008 Yeah, I hear what you are saying. But, if the memory passes memtest w/o issue, is another pair going to be the same? IE: Will another pair enter windows at the specified speed and voltage, or will I just be out of a computer until I get the next sticks and have the same problem? :(: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted September 16, 2008 Corsair Employees Share Posted September 16, 2008 That is something that we would not be able to answer, but it would take the memory out of the equation and then you would know if that happens the memory is most likely not the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave3d Posted September 16, 2008 Author Share Posted September 16, 2008 OK. I am going to play with it for a few days, and see if it is really stable now (as before it was fine 1 day, but crashed the next). If it is still unstable after a couple more days, I will look into the rma. Thanx. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Let's go about this a different way. Let's allow the BIOS to select. Extreme Tweaker CPU Level Up = Auto Memory Level Up = Auto CPU Multiplier = 9 FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Linked FSB - Memory Ratio = Sync Mode FSB (QDR) Frequency = 1600 Mem (DDR) Frequency = 1600 LDT Frequency = 5x Memory Timing Section P1 = Auto P2 = Auto tCL = 9 tRCD = 9 tRP = 9 tRAS = 24 Command Per Clock = 2T tRRD = 1 tRC = 35 tWR = 10 tWTR = Auto tFAW = 35 tRD = Auto tRTP = Auto tRFC = Auto tREF = Auto Over Voltage CPU Voltage = 1.36v Loadline Calibration = Enabled CPU PLL Voltage = 1.55v CPU VTT Voltage = 1.25v Memory Voltage + 1.8v NB Core Voltage = 1.45v SB Core Voltage = 1.55 CPU GTL_REF0 Ratio = -29mV CPU GTL_REF1 Ratio = -32mV CPU GTL_REF2 Ratio = -32mV CPU GTL_REF3 Ratio = -29mV DDR3 CHA1 Ref Voltage = Auto DDR3 CHA2 Ref Voltage = Auto DDR3 CHB1 Ref Voltage = Auto DDR3 CHB2 Ref Voltage = Auto CPU Configuration CPU Internal Thermal Control = Auto Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled Execute Disable Bit = Disabled Virtualization Technology = Disabled Enhanced SpeedStep Tech = Disabled All CPU Cores = Enabled Spread Spectrum Control = All to disabled Retest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave3d Posted September 17, 2008 Author Share Posted September 17, 2008 Nope. Got homr e tonight, powered on the machine, hang right after boot. RAMGUY: I bought these at newegg. I would like to return them for a refund and get another set of memory. I put in for the rebate already though. IS there a way to stop the rebate and be able to return these to newegg? Thanx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted September 17, 2008 Corsair Employees Share Posted September 17, 2008 I am sorry but I have nothing to do with Rebates and would not have any way to help with that. They would be done by a third party. And I am not sure the reseller will take them back if you cut out the bar code for the Rebate. But we can replace them if you like, please use the On Line RMA Request Form and we will be happy to replace them. Also did you try the settings DEREKT suggested with the modules in the black slots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Nope. Got homr e tonight, powered on the machine, hang right after boot. RAMGUY: I bought these at newegg. I would like to return them for a refund and get another set of memory. I put in for the rebate already though. IS there a way to stop the rebate and be able to return these to newegg? Thanx. Dave, I found your review at the Newegg review page. Have you resolved this issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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