zer0kewl Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 http://img369.imageshack.us/my.php?image=memtimingsdh7.jpg how can i losen up these timings and get my ram 100% stable. also some extremely lose timings what is sugested. cous i also want see if i can totaly elemintate any problem i have or not. as atm i'm confused what piece of hardware is faulty. i play some music and it can just sudenly go boom lockup. or my gpu driver crashes quite lot sudenly then does't. wich i fear has something to with ram. altough i'm not totaly sure about my sound card seems cause lockups so i'm 80% sure those crashes aren't caused by my ram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Please remove the sound card.Download memtest from--->Here and extract the ISO image. Burn the ISO image to an CD-ROM disk. Download CPU-z from--> Here Enter your BIOS, load setup defaults, save setup defaults and set to these values: AI Overclocking: Manual CPU Ratio Control: 8 FSB Frequency: 333 PCI-E Frequency: 100 DRAM Command Rate: 2T DRAM Frequency: 1066 FSB Strap to Northbridge: 333 DRAM Timing Control: Manual CAS# Latency: 4 RAS# to CAS# Delay: 4 RAS# Precharge: 4 RAS# Activate to Precharge: 12 TWR: Auto TRFC: Auto TWTR: Auto TRRD: Auto TRTP: Auto DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled Transaction Booster: Auto Clock Over-Charging Mode: Auto CPU Spread Spectrum: Auto PCIE Spread Spectrum: Auto CPU Voltage: Auto CPU Voltage Reference: Auto CPU Load Line Calibration: Enabled DRAM Voltage: 2.1v FSB Termination Voltage: Auto North Bridge Voltage: 1.4 North Bridge Voltage Reference: Auto South Bridge Voltage: Auto Power Suspend Mode = S3 Repost Video on S3 Resume = Enabled USB Legacy USB = Disabed For MemTest and enabled afterwards. Run Memtest for two full passes, then (If Stable), enter Windows and post screenshots of CPU-z's CPU, Memory and SPD tabs. Results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zer0kewl Posted September 8, 2008 Author Share Posted September 8, 2008 besides. CAS# Latency: 4 RAS# to CAS# Delay: 4 RAS# Precharge: 4 RAS# Activate to Precharge: 12 what other timings to set to besides auto wich surely aint right value's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted September 8, 2008 Corsair Employees Share Posted September 8, 2008 Dram Frequency should be DDR800 and set the memory Voltage to 2.1 Volts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zer0kewl Posted September 8, 2008 Author Share Posted September 8, 2008 Dram Frequency should be DDR800 and set the memory Voltage to 2.1 Volts. with 4x 1 gb ? cous i got ddr2 800 not 1066. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted September 8, 2008 Corsair Employees Share Posted September 8, 2008 No with 4 modules it should be DDR667. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zer0kewl Posted September 8, 2008 Author Share Posted September 8, 2008 shame on you btw Derekt sugesting me to set ram on 1066 good thing i did't ;p No with 4 modules it should be DDR667. Are there any timing sugestions i mean all timings all together how i should set it. and how i can also set it that lose it will be perfectly stable asswell. aka default one's. but also some extra lose timings to see stability diferences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted September 8, 2008 Corsair Employees Share Posted September 8, 2008 Its an easy mistake he probably just copied that from another post. No biggie it just would not have worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zer0kewl Posted September 8, 2008 Author Share Posted September 8, 2008 anyway any thing for loser timings loser then default. like 5-5-5-18 and etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted September 8, 2008 Corsair Employees Share Posted September 8, 2008 If you dont set them manually just leave the timings set to By SPD it should be Cas 5-5-5-18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zer0kewl Posted September 8, 2008 Author Share Posted September 8, 2008 If you dont set them manually just leave the timings set to By SPD it should be Cas 5-5-5-18. yeah but those aren't stable. also by spd shows for example 5-5-5-18 but it picks 5-5-5-15. also what voltage 2,10 or 1,80. heck why i ask complete timing list. like 4-4-4-12-42-3-6-3-3 altough it picks 5-5-5-15-36-3-6-3-3 by default. while for example default spd shows 42 not 36. but does't show all the default timings heck i want to just set it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Excuse me, I thought you had one set of 1066. You may wish to set tRFC to 52 to see if this enhances stability in your Four DRAM slot population. You can set the timings ie. 4 - 4 - 4 - 12 - 52 - 3 - 6 - 3 - 3 with 2.1v at 667Mhz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zer0kewl Posted September 8, 2008 Author Share Posted September 8, 2008 Excuse me, I thought you had one set of 1066. You may wish to set tRFC to 52 to see if this enhances stability in your Four DRAM slot population. You can set the timings ie. 4 - 4 - 4 - 12 - 52 - 3 - 6 - 3 - 3 with 2.1v at 667Mhz just be sure all timings loser is higher value tighter timings are lower value ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 just be sure all timings loser is higher value tighter timings are lower value ? Yes, looser is a higher value and lower is a tighter value. After my last mistake I certainly understand you wishing confirmation :D: Always run Memtest before entering Windows when making changes to the DRAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zer0kewl Posted September 8, 2008 Author Share Posted September 8, 2008 just odd lol 3e time my system locked up while typing on msn. i cant set 42 to 52 btw 42 is highest value i can set. instead off 1 value that default is 5 i set to 6 thats shown in spd hoping becomes bit less now. altough i get the idea my keyboard has 1 button with short fuse. also unless have to do with ram my system has't crashed locked up this many when i had my ram set to ddr2 800. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Have you thought of selling the four sticks and purchasing two? Your issues will be over. Some motherboards have issues with four DRAM slots being populated and RMA of the motherboard is sometimes the only route. Have you tested both sets with memtest? As sets? Then in four? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted September 8, 2008 Corsair Employees Share Posted September 8, 2008 Please make sure that you have the latest bios and load setup defaults and then set the memory Voltage to 2.1 Volts then set the timings manually to the tested settings for the specific module you have, and test the modules one at a time with http://www.memtest.org to be sure one is not failing. If you still get errors, please follow the link in my signature “I think I have a bad part!” and we will be happy to replace them or it! However, if you get errors with both modules that would suggest some other problem and I would test them in another system or MB to be sure. In addition, with some MB's (Mostly ASUS) you have to disable legacy USB in the bios when running any memory test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zer0kewl Posted September 9, 2008 Author Share Posted September 9, 2008 Please make sure that you have the latest bios and load setup defaults and then set the memory Voltage to 2.1 Volts then set the timings manually to the tested settings for the specific module you have, and test the modules one at a time with http://www.memtest.org to be sure one is not failing. If you still get errors, please follow the link in my signature “I think I have a bad part!” and we will be happy to replace them or it! However, if you get errors with both modules that would suggest some other problem and I would test them in another system or MB to be sure. In addition, with some MB's (Mostly ASUS) you have to disable legacy USB in the bios when running any memory test. nah i'm strongly considering buy non asus board. altough not a sli board either. and derekt yes i'm considering buy new ram asswell. as for sound card if not removed it yet derekt. altough i'm considering atm temporary disabling it test onboard sound see if i get same paterns like these. atm i hear a small sound pop basicly well duh basic creative issue. http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/5462/latencykj4.jpg and as i hear sound pop i see latency go into red asswell. those sound pops just got worse before i only got it from after putting music to stop and during navigate sound. nothing related probaly to ram altough i will test it out tonight. as for sound card if already pre ordert new sound card but auzentech prelude 7.1 with x-fi chip from creative just overall way better quality board. also had my sound squishing like mad and odd but obviosly not causing my system to crash just yet. till my screen froze showed many weird colors. and got bsod with message my 3d card has caused system to stop working. way after my sound acted weird. so atm in rather bad position as i'm afraid i need replace everything mainboard gpu sound card ram. and ofc psu. and 1 hdd wich is i think corupted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted September 9, 2008 Corsair Employees Share Posted September 9, 2008 NP Please let us know how you make out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zer0kewl Posted September 9, 2008 Author Share Posted September 9, 2008 oh btw i'm not in the mood to check 1 single module at time -,-. takes just to much time i'm willing to remove 1 set and see if problems go away but thats it. not a way to test all in 1 go ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zer0kewl Posted September 9, 2008 Author Share Posted September 9, 2008 some extra info disabled sound card latency still go up. i'm going trough some more tests. also considering my system was waaaaaay more stable when i actualy had really tight value's on my ram and my ram set to ddr2 800. ofc i should't do that as might make my system more unstable but willing to take that risk. even if becomes even worse big deal i just go buy some new ram in the morning. in mean time any decent sugestions for this mainboard. 2x 2 gb not really planing to overclock at all out fear off instability. altough i do like fast and verry decent ram. as long it aren't c4dhx cous for some reason i dont trust those modules really. and i look for something better. might actualy buy new gfx card asswell as it might just be another reason why system is unstable atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 some extra info disabled sound card latency still go up. i'm going trough some more tests. also considering my system was waaaaaay more stable when i actualy had really tight value's on my ram and my ram set to ddr2 800. ofc i should't do that as might make my system more unstable but willing to take that risk. even if becomes even worse big deal i just go buy some new ram in the morning. in mean time any decent sugestions for this mainboard. 2x 2 gb not really planing to overclock at all out fear off instability. altough i do like fast and verry decent ram. as long it aren't c4dhx cous for some reason i dont trust those modules really. and i look for something better. might actualy buy new gfx card asswell as it might just be another reason why system is unstable atm I personally like the P5K but I choose the P5K Premium because it is so low priced. I have two of them. They work a charm. No issues running with all four DRAM slots populated. But I didn't find P5K issuing problems either. You need to isolate the issue. Your PM's about the data corruption in your hard drive might well be the issue. Can you test with a different Hard drive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zer0kewl Posted September 9, 2008 Author Share Posted September 9, 2008 if tested my hdd's so many times 1 is newest and i only use for music video data anyway does't have any issues. another hdd 500 gb from wd bit more older i got steam on wich constantly corupted like once a week needing to validate game files. few try's and it works like charm again. altough if checked so many times for errors s.m.a.r.t. status is healthy not single error. and no errors i can find either no matter how many try's i give. my oldest hard drive 250 gb also from western digital reallocated sector count off 197 worst 197 treshold 147 marked in yellow when i check from hd tune i can try check for errors but wont find any anyway. just atm tough with drivers cleaned from my 8800gtx wich i fear gotten little faulty less latency peeks happends less frequintly. think i first try new ram and see if became less but latency still peeking out i'm considering doing gpu stress test for artifacts altough might probaly still find any heck i think i just replace it. as for sound card might take while ;| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zer0kewl Posted September 9, 2008 Author Share Posted September 9, 2008 meh wish recorded sample as my sound card starts acted weird i'm considering posting on another forum to see if other people with broken x-fi had those sympthoms asswell. just funny thing did't crash my 3d card as was't installed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 You sound as though you've had lots of issues. The best advice I can give you is to isolate as many variables as you can. Motherboard, Single stick of DRAM, PCI video card, and known good hard drive/optical drive. Then I set the BIOS, test the DRAM and install an OS. Then I move to test the CPU system stability. When these pass, I then install the video card and test both 2 and 3D translations. Then to the sound card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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