I'm having issues w/ TWIN3X2048-1800C7DF

[dannycurtean]

I was previously running ******** 1600 @ 777-25 1.9 V but had to OC to 1700 for it to even POST.

 

Im running Asus Striker II extreme with 1002 BIOS and Im having all sorts of issues. I reinstalled windows at least 4 times (vista 32) and I cant seem to get these things to run stable at their 1800. My screen starts getting artifacts, my sound is all buzzy and distorted and I did a Ram test which came up with 0 errors. At this point im woundering is the TWIN3X2048-1800C7DF G really compatible with Striker II extreme 1002 bios?

 

I have tried all kinds of settings and it just doesnt want to work right. Im writing this post at 1333 mhz just so I could install windows. Any advice?

 

I have tried Cpu (q9450) at 1.300 V core

NB: 1.38 - 1.50

VTT:1.30

and nothing.

I got this ram so I could run stable and fast, but Im really starting to reconsider.

[amari84]

What do you mean for "artifacts"?You mean strange red dots or lines on your screen?If yes you've the same problem that i had my first time when I installed the Stryker II and RAM: the only way to resolve the problem is setting manually the timings and voltage values of RAM!Don't change the values concerning CPU, NB, SB, ecc because it doesn't help!If you experienced problems during the installation of vista do this: leave only one stick of ram, take out the sound card, one gpu if you have two or more, set the timings of RAM and their voltage, disable or set Auto all Bios settings that you don't need and try to install. After the installation of Vista, download all the updates avaible with microsoft update and install the latest chipset drivers. After this you can finally insert again the sound card and other RAM sticks

[RAM GUY]

And please let us know how you make out with this.

[dannycurtean]

Hey guys, just an update.

 

I messed with the bios today again, after putting in the second 9800 GX2 (Quad-SLI BABY!) and I set the following settings on the 1002 BIOS of the Asus Striker II Extreme;

 

I am running 1600 MHZ FSB:DRAM = 1:1

RAM - 1.80 V - 7-7-7-20 2T

NB - 1.38 V

VTT - 1.28 V

 

 

I will bench this thing and see if I can get any improvements. Its weird though, ******** RAM running faster (or more efficient) on my board than Corsair.....that's almost an oxymoron. I did ram test and 0 errors came up. So I'm starting to thing its mobo settings. Any suggestions for running 1800 FSB (which I did with my ******** COMFORTABLY 1600 Mhz RAM) would be very welcomed. Also any revisions to my above posted settings are also welcomed.

[dannycurtean]

I am currently running the Asus Striker II Extreme on 1002 BIOS. I am having issues with this ram in Windows. I upgraded, per say, from ******** 1600 MHZ which apparently worked allot better. I upgraded to Corsair because I thought that Corsair makes better ram that will work more efficiently, and faster than ********'s ram has, well I was wrong. I can boot into Windows at 1800 Mhz 7-7-7-20 2 T but after about 10 minutes of windows I got ALL KINDS of artifacts on the screen. In fact, right now as I type I will type about 6 words and when I continue it freezes and then writes what I typed. I dont know what the problem is. I have tried all kinds of bios settings and it will boot, but it will not run properly.

 

Some of the artifacts I get is windows freezing while getting minimized(in aero) like they will minimize about 50% and it will just freeze there, not the computer just that screen. Another is I get hundreds of little square boxes or dots on the screen and when I move the mouse it kinds if oscillates between different sections. I have NEVER seen this before.

[dannycurtean]

While playing Crysis I encounter a weird issue. The FPS is fine, but it will severely fluctuate....meaning.....Its like a car engine that goes from 3000 RPM to 5000 RPM and back and forth and back and forth while keeping your foot on the pedal the same. And in Windows I notice that I sometimes dont get responses to my commands. For example I sometimes will click to close a window, and its as if I never even clicked or anything. It takes a second command to close it. I am loosing some serious performance with this new Corsair ram. It seems that what I thought was my savior as far as system performance is my damnation.

 

Current setting, most performance and stable (per se, as it crashes saying that it could not get some response from a second processor or something like that)

1600 MHZ Sync

6-6-6-14 1T @ 2.0 V

NB - 1.36

rest is all auto.

 

I really need this RAM to work fast, efficient and STABLE. I need some recommendations to BIOS settings so I can get this thing working. If it cant work right with my system in the next 20 days, I will return for a refund and stick to the WORKING O-C-Z ram!

[dannycurtean]

So after screwing around with Bios settings for about 4 hours or even more, I figured that this ram can do some crazy things.

 

I have it running fine at:

1600 MHZ Sync

6-6-6-14 1T @ 2.0V

1.36 NB

Auto Everything else (disabled everything in CPU section and spread spectrum)

 

BUT!

 

My system is not 100% stable as it crashes sometimes saying that a second processor did not respond in time or something like that(blue screen).

 

Now the BIGGEST issue is really really weird. The old UUCZ ram 1600 mhz NEVER did this. What happens is in Crysis for example I get this weird fluctuation of FPS. Its as if a cars engine goes from 3k RPM to 5k RPM repeatedly without any extra acceleration (just an analogy). It will freeze completely for about 1/4 a second and then resume again and when I turn it does it again. Now please keep in mind I am running 2x 9800 GX2's in Quad SLI and I have NEVER seen this issue before the new Corsair ram. I have tried different timings, different voltages, I have increased and decreased more voltages than the board has(generally speaking). I have reseated the ram, the GFX cards checked temps updated drivers, increased air flow throughout the case, checked ALL connections in the case. It all checks out.

 

I just don't get how it can do that. Ohh and just to mention, when i keep the camera (Crysis) in one location I probably hit at least 80 FPS until I move it from side to side. It drops to about 1 fps and acts like a misfired engine and then it goes off again and works for another 2 seconds when I turn again. It doesn't do it when there is allot going on the screen like a bunch of crap blowing up, its smooth as butter then, its just when I walk and turn. And the "second processor did not respond" crash needs to go away.

 

Any input is appreciated.

[dannycurtean]

1600 MHZ Sync

6-6-6-14 1T @ 2.0V

1.36 NB

Auto Everything else (disabled everything in CPU section and spread spectrum)

 

BUT!

 

My system is not 100% stable as it crashes sometimes saying that a second processor did not respond in time or something like that(blue screen).

 

Now the BIGGEST issue is really really weird. The old UUCZ ram 1600 mhz NEVER did this. What happens is in Crysis for example I get this weird fluctuation of FPS. Its as if a cars engine goes from 3k RPM to 5k RPM repeatedly without any extra acceleration (just an analogy). It will freeze completely for about 1/4 a second and then resume again and when I turn it does it again. Now please keep in mind I am running 2x 9800 GX2's in Quad SLI and I have NEVER seen this issue before the new Corsair ram. I have tried different timings, different voltages, I have increased and decreased more voltages than the board has(generally speaking). I have reseated the ram, the GFX cards checked temps updated drivers, increased air flow throughout the case, checked ALL connections in the case. It all checks out.

 

I just don't get how it can do that. Ohh and just to mention, when i keep the camera (Crysis) in one location I probably hit at least 80 FPS until I move it from side to side. It drops to about 1 fps and acts like a misfired engine and then it goes off again and works for another 2 seconds when I turn again. It doesn't do it when there is allot going on the screen like a bunch of crap blowing up, its smooth as butter then, its just when I walk and turn. And the "second processor did not respond" crash needs to go away.

 

Any input is appreciated.

[RAM GUY]

Command Rate should be at 2t and did you load setup defaults and then set the tested settings manually on the modules one at a time and test them with http://www.memtest.org?

[dannycurtean]

I did test mem in 2 diff slots with Memtest. No errors what so ever. It seems to be a LITTLE big better at 1333 auto everything but still not anywhere near $3500 if ya know what I mean. Its not a GFX problem, that I know for sure. I just need some timings for this board with the RAM I have now to be able to run this at a good speed (at least 1600) while being rock solid. I dont think the RAM is the problem since It pretty much took ANYTHING I threw at it as far as timings. It just is really really glitchy in windows and 3d apps. Like textures will jitter and water will shift sporaticly.

[dannycurtean]

I am now running at 1700 Mhz with this ram and it seems to be pretty stable. There is still a problem. The Crysis problem is still there, and I am scoring 17,000 IN 3D Mark 06 (way way too low, should be easily 20,000)with a $3,500 dollar machine (specs below)

 

I dont know what is going on. Sandra Memory B/W test tells me my memory bw is at 7.80 Gb/s which is really pretty dam low

 

I am running at:

1700 MHz Sync

8-8-8-24 - 2T @ 2.0 V

NB - 1.44

SB - 1.62

PLL - 1.52

Vcore - 1.34

 

Temps are all fine. I just cant explain the low performance.

 

System Specs:

Asus Striker II Extreme BIOS 1002

Intel Q9450 @ 3.4 Ghz

Corsair Dominator III 1800

2x 9800 GX2 Quad-SLI

Ultra X3 1000 Watt PSU

WD VelociRaptor HDD

[RAM GUY]

To see if the memory itself may be responsible for the problems you are having, I would recommend that you test the modules one at a time and see if you can get the same errors with both modules, whether its in Crysis or any other application. If you can, then there is likely some other issue, it would be very unlikely that both modules would fail with the same problems at the same time.

 

If you boot up into safe mode are you able to get the system to lock up or cause any issues?

[dannycurtean]

First off, I would like to mention that after moving the RAM to A2, B2 slots I am not having ANY stability issues, and have plenty of headroom to play around and find great timings (down to 555 14 to boot).

 

What I am having is 3D Performance issues. I dont know what is holding my system back but I was expecting after another $1500 of upgrades my 3Dmark 06 Score would at least reach or near 20,000 from near 17,000 prior to upgrades. After toying around I finally got the system stable at 1600 Mhz Sync 7-7-7-20 2T @ 1.98 V (bios) tRC:1. It works GREAT in Windows and any lower end game. No crashes, no errors in memtest, nothing wrong no gliches anymore just great. My gripe is why is a $3500 dollar computer performing so poorly in Crysis and in 3D Mark 06? I mean cmon my score went DOWN since I just spent 1500 bucks?

 

In Crysis for example its as if (now im playing on all "High" not "Very High" 1680 Res.) the game needs to cache every 10 seconds and my game freezes for about 1/4 second then it goes back to normal and then when I walk again it does it again and so forth. The best way to describe it is as if a car engine is reving from 1k RPM to 6K RPM without one actually accelerating - its just fluctuating on any new scene until it caches and then its fine. I can twist and turn in that area and will be generally fine after cache, but if I leave the area and come back, same issue. For some reason it just needs to cache everything every 10 seconds or so.

 

Because of this I really believe this is a RAM timing issue. I have tried EVERYTHING. I even tried my old ******** RAM @ 1600 mhz and it kinda does the same thing(although I never really cleared bios after changing ram) but it never did this before I got the new harddrive, the ram and the second GX2. So my question is....what could result in such performance bottlenecks when everything in this system is the top of the line....specs below.

 

Settings:

1600 Mhz Sync

7-7-7-20 2T tRC 1

Vcore - 1.34V

RAM - 1.94V

NB - 1.38V

SB - 1.50V

PLL - 1.54

VTT - 1.23

 

Latest drivers, updates, temps are fine, no glitches, just low performance.

 

Sandra Ram Bandwidth Test: 9.125 GB/s

3DMark 06 Score (freeware, all default) - 16,600 +-

 

My system is stable with the new BIOS and the slot adjustment but the performance is just crap. I should be seeing 20,000 score in 3d Mark and 60 FPS in Crysis benchmark not 29. And Quad SLI is enabled, I checked 1000 times. Any help is appreciated.

[RAM GUY]

I would test the video cards one at a time to see if either one of them gives you any noticeably higher results than the other. This should at least tell you if one of the cards is not operating the way it should be. If they are about the same, then its got to be a software issue, likely with the video drivers and how they are managing SLI.

[dannycurtean]

I have tried all the different types of drivers including nForce and Geforce betas, early release all kinds of drivers and each has it own problems but they all share the SLI issue with major sound problems and very poor performance in 3D demanding apps. I'm really thinking to abandon the whole SLI thing even though my system should handle it just fine.

 

Im thinking of going to one GTX 280 and crossing my fingers with that one. Theres no point in having $1200 worth of graphics processing power which performs worst than probably a single 8800 GTS.

[RAM GUY]

How does it run with just one card installed?

[dannycurtean]

I haven't really tested it exclusively but the sound is awesome. As soon as I enable SLI it goes to hell. I have a pro audio Edirol FA-101 firewire audio interface and it is VERY sensitive about drivers and settings and now its rock solid which is AWESOME and RARE. I can actually mix a song without any hickups which I haven't been able to do since I got the 790i. The White slots definitely are accounting for such a massive improvement in stability.

 

Also, when SLI enabled (at least with the 175.19 drivers) I would get this "Interrupt capture was not received from a secondary processor" BSOD. Ive been working remotely all day today so no testing as of yet, but I will try to bench and see what single card can do.

 

Thanks for the help BTW, and suggestions are welcomed. I still do think there are some bottlenecks somewhere in the FSB to RAM area of the board or somewhere around there because the performance even with a single card should be at least 18000 in 3dmark 06 and that's being very very conservative.

[RAM GUY]

I would recommend that you uninstall your graphics drivers, as well as your audio drivers (both onboard audio, as well as the drivers for the Edirol card). I would also suggest removing the sound card altogether from the system. Use a driver cleaning utility (your video card manufacturer should be able to recommend a specific one) and then reinstall the newest graphic driver. Leave your audio disabled, and test your graphics once more. If there is no change then go ahead and reinstall the Edirol card and its drivers.

 

I am betting that there is a conflict with your sound drivers, and your graphics drivers, you may want to contact the graphics card manufacturer to see if they have seen any issues with any sound cards and SLI.

[dannycurtean]

To tell you the truth, as far as the poor performance I dont DOUBT what you say, but I do doubt its a sound driver and more of board drivers for handling firewire and such. I did uninstall before every reinstall with Drive Sweeper and even went in the C:\NVIDIA folder and deleted the other drivers and then after a restart I installed the new ones. That was always the procedure, but no difference, ok maybe with this latest driver its a bit better but still/

[dannycurtean]

Tried cards individually and they both output exactly the same. Now the weird thing is that on Very High 1680 res ONE 9800 GX2 outperformed the Quad SLI as far as smoothness and not doing that caching thing so much. In fact, one 9800 gx2 was more playable than the quad setup.....explain that......lol

 

It really looks like a driver issue, and i am looking to get these drivers replaced since they crash with that interrupt capture secondary processor bs.

 

Will post update soon.

 

Ohh btw, the ram is in slot 1 - 3 not 2-4 (dont know how it got there, but wit the 1103 it works GREAT, except for that stupid crysis caching issue)

[RAM GUY]

Slots 2 and 4 would definitely be recommended. These slots have proven to be handle high frequency memory (usually 1600MHz and higher) much better and more consistently than slots 1 and 3.