JonesFromDK Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 My mobo is not on the list in your "tech support"-list, it is a Biostar NF61V mikro, socket 940, it should be compatible with 2x1 Gb DDR2 800, but when I insert my new Corsair ram-modules my pc won't boot, there is even no "beeb sound" for lack of ram or other basic problem. I am a novice to BIOS and the like, and I can't find anything relevant in the BIOS to change. (I haven't made any change, or upgrade though). When I put back the old 1 x 512 Mb 533 module the pc is fine again. Do someone have a suggestion what to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 I can't find that motherboard on Biostar's website. Where did you get the board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesFromDK Posted February 7, 2008 Author Share Posted February 7, 2008 The motherboard is listed on the biostar.com.tw site / products / amd2. The full name is Biostar NF61V Micro AM2. I bought the pc from a shop here in Copenhagen, Denmark. Maybe it was a bad choice of mobo, anyway, it should work. I forgot to write the full name of the new Corsair ram: cm2x1024 - 6400, I have a pair of these. Maybe I should download a new BIOS, but I don´t understand it is written in the help-file from Biostar: "Type "Awdflash xxxx.bf/sn/py/r" in DOS prompt (xxxx means BIOS name)" - but I don´t know another name for the BIOS than "BIOS". But anyway I can´t see it should be necessary to upgrade the bios just to install some new ram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Biostar NF61V mikro, socket 940 Biostar NF61V Micro AM2 That's why I couldn't find it. You stated SOCKET 940 in the first post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted February 7, 2008 Corsair Employees Share Posted February 7, 2008 These modules should run great in that MB but you might need to reset the BIOS with the CLRTC or clear BIOS jumper on the MB since you have been running other memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesFromDK Posted February 8, 2008 Author Share Posted February 8, 2008 That's why I couldn't find it. You stated SOCKET 940 in the first post. Well, thats what is written on the receipt from the shop: "Biostar ... S-940". I found out later myself the proper MB-name is as written above in my second post. I think the problem you have had is that the american biostar-site does not list this MB, but the biostar.com.tw does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesFromDK Posted February 8, 2008 Author Share Posted February 8, 2008 These modules should run great in that MB but you might need to reset the BIOS with the CLRTC or clear BIOS jumper on the MB since you have been running other memory. Thanks "Ram Guy", I will try this when I'm back from work. Jonas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted February 8, 2008 Corsair Employees Share Posted February 8, 2008 NP Please let us know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Well, thats what is written on the receipt from the shop: "Biostar ... S-940". I found out later myself the proper MB-name is as written above in my second post. I think the problem you have had is that the american biostar-site does not list this MB, but the biostar.com.tw does. I checked the global and USA site, odd that it's only in the TW one, oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesFromDK Posted February 9, 2008 Author Share Posted February 9, 2008 NP Please let us know! Hi again. In short: Following your advice (:reset BIOS) I can now boot with one CM2X1024-6400 module, but still not with two. What to do? (Very) long explanation (very "optional" to read): I cleared the CMOS using the jumpers on the MB. After that I could still not run 2x CM2X1024-6400. Then I removed one ram-module, and I could boot. Got these lines on the screen: "CMOS checksum error - defaults loaded" - "reset CPU Frequency in the CMOS setup" - "Now system is in safe mode". I did not choose F8 "system setup" but entered BIOS. Wrong? Different from before I cleared the CMOS there is now a menu in the BIOS: "DRAM":biggrin: - with many sub-menues. Since I - as you can understand here - am a novice to this I did not know if I should change anything, since there is not written something about single - dual or Mhz-speed of ram, in other words, about something basic I do understand. (One thing that I wondered about in one other menu was that "GPU" value "425Mhz" was flashing and it was written "Only 425Mhz is supported in default mode". Has this any relevance to my petit ram-problem? - maybe its just a default writing when the CMOS is cleared? - related to my GeF 7300LE Grafics?). I saved the BIOS with almost no changes. :o: After that I inserted the second ram-module again and tried to boot. Well, it still does not work. Do you have any suggestions what to do, apart from selling these nice ram-modules to a more skilled person. I like to have 2 Gb ram to continue with what this is all about: to install a e-mu 0404 audiocard, a second HD, and have a nice time with sequencers, midi-keyboard, plugins etc. (Next problem: does SATA2 share bus with PCI on this mikroboard, if so it is not good... well that question is not for this forum). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted February 11, 2008 Corsair Employees Share Posted February 11, 2008 Is this the MB you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesFromDK Posted February 12, 2008 Author Share Posted February 12, 2008 Is this the MB you have? Yes, thats it. (Though on my actual board there is written: "NF61S Micro AM2 SE", not NF61V Micro AM2. But I guess it is basically the same MB. It is a little worrying my actual MB: "NF61S Micro AM2 SE" is not listed on the biostar.com.tw site, only "NF61V Micro AM2"). Well, the board is so small, I guess it's almost the same cheap product. (My vendor did not state "micro" when selling the board, I understand now it is a very "basic" MB). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garvin Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Is this the board (NF61S Micro AM2 SE version)? http://www.biostar-usa.com/mbdetails.asp?model=NF61S%20Micro%20AM2%20SE The BIOS and Drivers Download page for that board: http://www.biostar-usa.com/mbdownloads.asp?model=NF61S%20MICRO%20AM2%20SE The Manual for that board is only available off the Taiwan site by clicking on the "Manual" button at the site found here: http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en-us/mb/driver.php?S_ID=128 the file for the manual is a .exe that has a self-extracting WinRAR PDF (after you save it it will ask you if you want to open it, open it - the PDF manual will be in the folder you saved in). Memory Voltage setting is detailed in section 9, pg 31. Memory timings, pg. 33. Judging from the date and the liner note for the most recent BIOS they have listed, I'd doubt you'd need a BIOS update. Just need to get the settings set for your RAM to whatever RamGuy recommends. Good luck. psFYI: with some manufacturer's sites, you can't get to the page you want through the front door. The info's there. It's just not linked to directly through the site's front end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesFromDK Posted February 13, 2008 Author Share Posted February 13, 2008 Hi Garvin. Thanks a lot. I have some problem with my wife today and therefor don´t have too much time to take care my ram-problem. But later I will check that "Memtest"-website you linked, maybe it will give a clue. For the moment I still don´t have an idea what to do to use the new 2 Gb ram. I have allready updated the BIOS from the Biostar.com.tw site, it gave a new menu in the BIOS about DDR2-ram, but I don´t have the technical knowledge to know if I should change some settings. The PDF-manual I also have allready and I cannot see any information I can use to install the new 2X1Gb Corsair ram, including page 33, that page is about overclocking, is that relevant? I also don´t think I should change voltage, isn´t standard 1.9 volt good enough? Well I hope, as you write, that the RAMGUY can write what settings I have to make in the BIOS. I hope he will not need detailed info about what menues etc there is in my actual bios. Then it becomes too complicated. Maybe I just have to realize I have bought a wrong motherboard/pc for my (new) purpose: to make a small DAW (digital audio workstation). I think I shall buy a more expensive MB where I can avoid video - PCI-E type to have highest priority and where the bus for harddisks is not shared with PCIs. I think the SATA2-bus on this MB is shared with the PCIs. Do you know anything about this?. Again, thanks a lot. Jonas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreeme Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Sata has to be tied to a bus, which means either pci or pci-e. In my case with the Biostar TA770 the sata controler, ethernet and 10channel sound are on the pci-e bus. The pci bus is very limited in bandwidth and since one has to wait on the other to finish talking to the cpu.....just better to have a faster pci-e bus used. I means its there, why shouldnt the onboard use that instead of pci. Personally Ill never get a board with all that hooked in the pci again. Feels more responsive this way-but that is just personal opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted February 13, 2008 Corsair Employees Share Posted February 13, 2008 You can get the tested settings for the modules from the link in my signature, we do not have MB specific settings as we have not seen that MB and I doubt we will have one to test. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesFromDK Posted February 16, 2008 Author Share Posted February 16, 2008 Sata has to be tied to a bus, which means either pci or pci-e. In my case with the Biostar TA770 the sata controler, ethernet and 10channel sound are on the pci-e bus. The pci bus is very limited in bandwidth and since one has to wait on the other to finish talking to the cpu.....just better to have a faster pci-e bus used. I means its there, why shouldnt the onboard use that instead of pci. Personally Ill never get a board with all that hooked in the pci again. Feels more responsive this way-but that is just personal opinion. Is it your board which hardware has a set up: sata - pci-e -bus? or is it a setting you can make in BIOS: to set sata to either pci-bus or pci-e-bus? (I don´t think so. And I will check about your board now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesFromDK Posted February 16, 2008 Author Share Posted February 16, 2008 You can get the tested settings for the modules from the link in my signature, we do not have MB specific settings as we have not seen that MB and I doubt we will have one to test. Sorry. Thanks for your help anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesFromDK Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 Hi Ramguy. If you read this I just want to tell you that the reason I could not boot with 2 x 1 Gb ram simply is that one of the modules won´t work. I had not checked if the part were o.k. after I bought them, I have never before had a bad part, I did not think of that as a possibility for a new part. When I checked the ram after clearing c-mos, etc, I just continued to keep the good part inserted, and then inserted the bad part. And, yes, it did not work... I see now... It is allready more than one month ago that I bought the ram, and I bought it from an internet shop. If they say it is suspicious I have not complained before now, I will show them this Thread to prove I have tried to solve the problem from the beginning. I see some shops say they don´t take back ram. I hope this shop will. Jonas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 That I bought the ram, and I bought it from an internet shop. If they say it is suspicious I have not complained before now, I will show them this Thread to prove I have tried to solve the problem from the beginning. I see some shops say they don´t take back ram. I hope this shop will. Jonas. You can always go through Corsair for RMA. Corsair will treat you well. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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