CoolRam Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Hi all, New kid on the block! Well I have the asus striker extreme with Q6700, and I'm looking for better RAM compatibility. I'm currently running the flex pc2-9200(nightmare) which i can't push it to its rated speed which is 1150mhz. I can only achive 5-5-5-18 2T @950 (around 90% stable). So, I'm looking for replacements. I'm currently debating on rather I should get 1 of the following kits... 1. TWIN2X2048-6400C4 (fast timing @ 800mhz) 2. TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX (4G, decent slower timing @ 800) 3. TWIN2X2048-8500C5D (decent/slower timing @ 1066) I like to get #3, but I'm afraid my MB can't run that speed. If that's the case then I'm left with option #1 and #2. Someone let me know if they have the same spec and running either or any of these RAM. Thank you in advance. p.s. my flex pc2-9200 is on RMA, go figure! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreeme Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 I would go with 3. Higher mhz ram-when slowed down always has tighter timings then at rated speed. The spd programing will show this. See if you can get someone with 3 to read the spd with everest and youll know what its timings a 800mhz are. They maybe real good at ddr2 800 speed certainly not cas5 Id say prob 4-4-4-12 or so). THat is if its compat. in your board did you check that or waiting for ram guy to let ya know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted January 2, 2008 Corsair Employees Share Posted January 2, 2008 I would suggest Twin2x2048-8500C5D with that MB and with what you are trying to do. Or if you can afford them Twin2x2048-8888C4D would be the fastest part for that configuration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolRam Posted January 2, 2008 Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 Great, thanks all for the quick responses. I shouldn't have any problem running at it's rated speed with option #3, right? I know this asus striker 680i chipset is particular with RAM. I hope I don't have to go through as much headache as the previous RAM I owned. Any recommanded settings or things to watchout for besides the 2.1v and 5-5-5-15 2T unlink 1066? Everything should be auto right? I'm excited to get the ram. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted January 2, 2008 Corsair Employees Share Posted January 2, 2008 No you would have to set the manually especially if you are over clocking the CPU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsxrsquid Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Hey when youu find something stable on your striker extreme post it. I can't even get the 2x1024-6400 to run at all stable or otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted January 8, 2008 Corsair Employees Share Posted January 8, 2008 Please make sure that you have the latest bios and load setup defaults and then set the memory Voltage to 2.0 Volts then set the timings manually to the tested settings for the specific module you have, and test the modules one at a time with http://www.memtest.org to be sure one is not failing. If you still get errors, please follow the link in my signature “I think I have a bad part!” and we will be happy to replace them or it! However, if you get errors with both modules that would suggest some other problem and I would test them in another system or MB to be sure. In addition, with some MB's (Mostly ASUS) you have to disable legacy USB in the bios when running any memory test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolRam Posted January 8, 2008 Author Share Posted January 8, 2008 Hey when youu find something stable on your striker extreme post it. I can't even get the 2x1024-6400 to run at all stable or otherwise. I will when I get them. But I want to be sure that my mobo can run 1066 (option#3) on either bank 1 blue slots(A1+B1) and bank 2 white slots (A2+B2) before I go out and get them. Should I have anything to worry about? If things are going well I might get 1 more pairs total of 4g @ 1066mhz. Is this possible? anyone care to enlighten me on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted January 8, 2008 Corsair Employees Share Posted January 8, 2008 With 4 modules on that MB DDR800 would be suggested, but you can try and set the NB/MCH Voltage to +.05 Volts and see if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolRam Posted January 9, 2008 Author Share Posted January 9, 2008 With 4 modules on that MB DDR800 would be suggested, but you can try and set the NB/MCH Voltage to +.05 Volts and see if that helps. Thanks for the heads up, and a pair is on the way. Now I noticed there are a couple of revisions on these modules as I'm reading other articles as well as the links in your signatures. Should I worry what revisions works best on my striker board, besides the voltage setting difference? And how can I tell what revision it is on the modules? Thanks again for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted January 9, 2008 Corsair Employees Share Posted January 9, 2008 The module revision is printed on the modules IE XM2S-850X Rev 1.X or Rev 2.x And yes that may be a concern, I would not suggest mixing revisions if you can help it. But for sure if you do mix them they will not clock as well as they would if they were all matched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolRam Posted January 14, 2008 Author Share Posted January 14, 2008 Here are my findings after receiving my set of TWIN2X2048-8500C5D version 1.2, and please see my rig spec in my signature for addition info. BIOS v. 1305 - Striker Extreme Ok, the good and the bad, and please note these have been tested with memtest v1.70 with atleast 1 or more passes and 2-5hours of testing. No crashes in vista after memtest is sucessful. BAD: When ram modules are in the DIMM-A1&B1 (blue slots), I can only hit (5-5-5-15-2T) 950Mhz on the ram speed. GOOD: When ram modules are in DIMM-A2&B2 (white slots), then (5-5-5-15-2T) 1066Mhz is achieved. My question is, if someone can figure out how to get the bank #1 (blue slots) to work at its rated speed, please send it my way. My ultimate goal is to get them to run at 4G or 8G on the system. Thanks in adv. P.S: 800Mhz works on any combinations of banks. Template used ------------------------------- AI Tuning: Manual Nvidia GPU Ex: Disabled LinkBoost: Disabled SLI: Disabled FSB - Memory Clock Mode: Unlinked or Linked (1:1 raitio) x FSB - Memory Raio: 10 default FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1066(means 266FSB) Actual FSB (QDR),1066mzh MEM (DDR), Mhz: 950 (blue slots), 1066 (white slots) Actual MEM (DDR), Mhz: 948 (blue slots), 1066.7(white slots) Vcore Voltage: Around 1.25v or AUTO Memory Voltage: 2.2v (version 1.x), 2.1v(version 2.x) 1.2v HT Voltage: 1.35v or AUTO NB Core Voltage: 1.30v-1.40v (1066 or 950 - 1.30v works fine) SB Core Voltage: AUTO CPU VTT Voltage: AUTO or 1.30-1.40v DDRII Controller Ref Voltage: AUTO DDRII Channel A Ref Voltage: AUTO DDRII Channel B Ref Voltage: AUTO tCL (CAS Latency 5 tRCD 5 tRP 5 tRAS 15 Command Per Clock (CMD): 2 clock (2T) Advance Memory Settings tRRD: AUTO tRC: AUTO tWR: AUTO tWTR: AUTO tREF: AUTO Async Latency: AUTO CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled LDT Spread Spectrum: Disabled CPU Internal Thermal Control: Disabled Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled Enhanced C1 (C1E): Disabled Execute Disable Bit: Disabled Virtualization Technology: Disabled Enhanced Intel Speedstep Tech: Disabled LDT Frequency: 5x PCIEX16_1 Frequency (Mhz): 100 PCIEX16_2 Frequency (Mhz): 100 PCIEX16_3 Frequency (Mhz): 100 SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, Mhz: 200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted January 14, 2008 Corsair Employees Share Posted January 14, 2008 With just one set installed in slots A1 and B1 just load setup defaults and then set the memory Voltage to 2.1 Volts and set the Command Rate to 2t and set the timings to Cas 5-5-5-15 and set the memory frequency at DDR1066 with out over clocking the CPU and test the system with http://www.memtest.org and please disable legacy USB when running any memory test with any ASUS MB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolRam Posted January 14, 2008 Author Share Posted January 14, 2008 With just one set installed in slots A1 and B1 just load setup defaults and then set the memory Voltage to 2.1 Volts and set the Command Rate to 2t and set the timings to Cas 5-5-5-15 and set the memory frequency at DDR1066 with out over clocking the CPU and test the system with http://www.memtest.org and please disable legacy USB when running any memory test with any ASUS MB. I believe I have tried that setting already, but I'll try exactly how you discribed again when I get home, and cross my fingers. Thank you very much for the quick responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted January 14, 2008 Corsair Employees Share Posted January 14, 2008 No problem, but if that still does not work but in the second slots I would talk to the MB maker to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolRam Posted January 15, 2008 Author Share Posted January 15, 2008 Alright more findings, but close to getting stable. Followed exactly, load setup default and set voltage 2.1 and everything auto on the voltage but it still posts errors in memtest 1.7...then I tried adding +0.05 on the NB voltage going from...1.25 - 1.30v - 1.35 - 1.40v. The result at NB core voltage with memtest... @ auto (~1.24v) - many errors at 40% test @ 1.30v - fewer errors @ 40% test @ 1.35v - 1 pass, but post 4 errors on second time. @ 1.40v - post error right away at 7% Any suggestions? I'll try to lower the memory voltage from 2.025-2.075v and see if that helps. I was close to stable on 2.1v w/NB 1.35v. BTW, I have the corsair cooling fans so I ruled out the heat problem during the test it's always between 20c-30c degree on the memory. Vcore Voltage: Around AUTO Memory Voltage: 2.1v 1.2v HT Voltage: AUTO NB Core Voltage: 1.30-1.40v SB Core Voltage: AUTO CPU VTT Voltage: AUTO DDRII Controller Ref Voltage: AUTO DDRII Channel A Ref Voltage: AUTO DDRII Channel B Ref Voltage: AUTO Thank you in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted January 16, 2008 Corsair Employees Share Posted January 16, 2008 As long as you only have one set of 2 modules Let's get them replaced, please use the On Line RMA Request Form and we will be happy to replace them. If you are running 4 modules I would suggest setting the memory frequency at DDR800. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolRam Posted January 16, 2008 Author Share Posted January 16, 2008 As long as you only have one set of 2 modules Let's get them replaced, please use the On Line RMA Request Form and we will be happy to replace them. If you are running 4 modules I would suggest setting the memory frequency at DDR800. Thanks again, but before I send in for RMA. I have to do a few more memtest by lowering my mem voltages as opposed to 2.1v w/1.35v NB @ 2.050v - memory test seems to work well, passed 5x, but when in Vista everest stress test reported hardware failure, prime95 freezed, and nvidia stability test freezed 20min in the test. @ 2.025v - so far got 1 pass on memtest, but will try more tonight. @ 2.00v - simply fails at memtest. Unless you would not suggest lowering the voltage for these tests. I have to say this mobo is not a regular plug and play thing. I guess finding the right voltage will yield a better performance and stability cross my fingers. Vcore Voltage: Around AUTO Memory Voltage: 2.050v, 2.025v 1.2v HT Voltage: AUTO NB Core Voltage: 1.35v SB Core Voltage: AUTO CPU VTT Voltage: AUTO DDRII Controller Ref Voltage: AUTO DDRII Channel A Ref Voltage: AUTO DDRII Channel B Ref Voltage: AUTO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted January 16, 2008 Corsair Employees Share Posted January 16, 2008 That would suggest a Voltage problem with the MB and or PSU. But it will not hurt the memory running at a lower voltage. However we can try replacing the memory if you like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolRam Posted January 18, 2008 Author Share Posted January 18, 2008 That would suggest a Voltage problem with the MB and or PSU. But it will not hurt the memory running at a lower voltage. However we can try replacing the memory if you like! Here's my final effort of testing... @2.025v with NB core voltage 1.35v - passed 10x on memtest, so I stopped it and moved on to prime95 and everest test which didn't yield stability, failed on both within minutes, sometime BSOD. Well I just open an RMA for Asus for my mobo...to be continue :[pouts: Until I get a new board to test, I still think the RAM I have is good. On a RMA question for the memory, would it be possible to get version 2.x instead of 1.x which I have? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted January 18, 2008 Corsair Employees Share Posted January 18, 2008 I am sorry to hear you are still having problems and for sure we will be happy to replace them no problem at all. However, I cannot promise what revision we might send you, I would suggest that you contact our Customer Service and see if they might be able to answer you. But I would suspect they will not be able to do that till the order in ready to be processed. Customer Service number is 888-222-4346 Ext "0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolRam Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 I am sorry to hear you are still having problems and for sure we will be happy to replace them no problem at all. However, I cannot promise what revision we might send you, I would suggest that you contact our Customer Service and see if they might be able to answer you. But I would suspect they will not be able to do that till the order in ready to be processed. Customer Service number is 888-222-4346 Ext "0" Thank you very much for your help, and I'm currently waiting to received my Motherboard replacement and see if I still have problem. Otherwise I'll have to send in for the memory RMA. Can I use this post id # to reference my RMA? Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted January 24, 2008 Corsair Employees Share Posted January 24, 2008 Yes of course, please let me know if you have any more questions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolRam Posted February 5, 2008 Author Share Posted February 5, 2008 Yes of course, please let me know if you have any more questions! Hey RamGuy, Sorry to dig up this old thread, just want to post an update after my newly RMA'd Mobo striker. Here's the spec Striker extreme - BIOS: 1305 and 1401 CPU: Q6700 G0 RAM: TWINX2X2048-8500C5D, voltage 2.1 & NB +0.05 My previous findings still hold true regarding BANK1 (DIMM A1&B1) and BANK2 (DIMM A2&B2). BANK1(blue slots) - highest speed is between 800-900, maybe 950 (haven't tried) with timing 4-4-4-12-T2, after gaining stability, I'm able to OC my cpu to 3.12Ghz max. BANK2(white slots) - I'm able to achieve 1066 5-5-5-15-2T, after gaining stability, I'm able to OC my cpu to 3.12Ghz max. Note: Before my mobo RMA replacement, I was not able to OC my CPU with similar settings. Anyways, I think I have spent/wasted enough time on my system. Now is time to enjoy it. Hopefully in due time, ASUS is able to push out fixes for this memory controller issue. Well my next challenge will be 8G on this systems w/64bit vista, what is the best combination or should I say what is the best compatible sets of RAM for this Mobo? I'm not looking to OC the RAM, but just at least running at DDR800 (that's what Asus is guarantee to run or support ddr2-800). According to memory configurator, I have my eyes on #1, and here are the followings... 1. TWIN2X4096-6400C4DHX - 2 sets = 8G 2. TWIN2X4096-6400C5 - 2 sets = 8G 3. TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX - 2 sets = 8G Thank you for your suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted February 6, 2008 Corsair Employees Share Posted February 6, 2008 Should not be a problem but with 4 modules you might have to set the memory frequency at DDR667 and I would try another PSU based on what you have posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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