mcsebiker Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 New System and online reseller will not RMA since past 30 days Asus P5N32-E SLI Plus, Intel Core 2 DUO E6850 GeForce 8600 GTS, and finally Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400 (that's what I ordered got TWIN2X2048-6400 G...tell me it's the same and compatible RAM GUY) PC will freeze in multiple apps, BattleField2, MS Office, other games. Whatever screen you are on stays displayed on screen. No reboot, No Blue Screen, can't CTRL+Alt+Del out, can't ALT+TAB out. Have to hold in the button. Where can I start troubleshooting? I'm a server tech so I did the basics. Firmware upgraded, XP reinstalled, different video drivers, memory sticks in channel B, one memory stick (don't remember it freezing on me with one stick). I downloaded the memory tester ISO and ripped it to CD booted into DOS and let the memory tester run with both sticks in for 12 hours (7 passes I think) NO errors!? Where next, $1000 :confused:of hardware and not stable. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorgosHand Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 i'm running a very similar setup and having the same problems with the exception that i'll get blue screens on occasion as well. Asus P5N32-E SLI, Core 2 Duo E6850, 8800gts, Twin2x2048-6400C4Pro, Windows XP Pro, Latest Bios-1205. i've manually set the memory to no avail and run memtest overnight with it detecting no errors. When using only one of the modules it is completely stable. i even switched them hoping the one i wasn't using would cause stability problems, but it still runs well. i realize this is probably more about my unfortunate choice of a mobo than the memory, but any help in getting this sucker stable without having to spend any more money on it would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400 (that's what I ordered got TWIN2X2048-6400 G...tell me it's the same and compatible RAM GUY) I'm not RAMGUY but I will try and help you. The P5N32-E Sli Plus is a hybrid board and has been shown to be problematic. The newer BIOS's have attempted to fix the issues but have halted the overclock ability. Download and downgrade the BIOS to version 0801. I also can not find your memory in the memory configurator for your motherboard so it could well be that your DRAM is incompatible with this board. Try these settings: Multiplier = 9 FSB = 333 DRAM = Unlinked and set to 800Mhz Memory Timing FSB - Memory Clock Mode: Unlinked CPU FSB: 333 CPU Multi: 9 DDR FSB: 800 tCL: 5 tRCD: 5 tRP: 5 tRAS: 15 Advanced Memory Settings tRRD: Auto tRC: Auto tWR: Auto tWTR: Auto tREF: Auto Async Latency: Auto CMD: 2T CPU Spread Spectrum: Enabled PCIE Spread Spectrum: Enabled MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum: Enabled SATA Spread Spectrum: Enabled LDT Spread Spectrum: Enabled CPU Internal Thermal Control: Enabled Limit CPUID MaxVal: Enabled Enhanced C1 (C1E): Enabled Execute Disable Bit: Enabled Virtualization Technology: Enabled Enhanced Intel Speedstep Tech: Enabled LDT Frequency: 5x -- Voltages -- Vcore = Auto Vdimm (DRAM Voltage) = 2.0v 1.2v HT: Auto NB Vcore: Auto SB Vcore: Auto CPU VTT: Auto It sounds as though your board is incompatible with this DRAM though. I believe that the Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400 is a different memory stick than the Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400 G, however this is more in the realm of RAMGUY's experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 i'm running a very similar setup and having the same problems with the exception that i'll get blue screens on occasion as well. Asus P5N32-E SLI, Core 2 Duo E6850, 8800gts, Twin2x2048-6400C4Pro, Windows XP Pro, Latest Bios-1205. i've manually set the memory to no avail and run memtest overnight with it detecting no errors. When using only one of the modules it is completely stable. i even switched them hoping the one i wasn't using would cause stability problems, but it still runs well. i realize this is probably more about my unfortunate choice of a mobo than the memory, but any help in getting this sucker stable without having to spend any more money on it would be greatly appreciated. Try the above settings. Change: DDR FSB: 800 tCL: 4 tRCD: 4 tRP: 4 tRAS: 12 -- Voltages -- Vcore = Auto Vdimm (DRAM Voltage) = 2.1v 1.2v HT: Auto NB Vcore: Auto SB Vcore: Auto CPU VTT: Auto Results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorgosHand Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 That's what i have them currently set to. Oddly, i'm beginning to think i have a problem with one of the sticks. i could not get it to even post with both modules in just now and the LED display on one of the sticks seems fairly unresponsive compared to the other one. Knowing my luck i caused harm to them by removing them one too many times. Much appreciated though, DerekT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 That's what i have them currently set to. Oddly, i'm beginning to think i have a problem with one of the sticks. i could not get it to even post with both modules in just now and the LED display on one of the sticks seems fairly unresponsive compared to the other one. Knowing my luck i caused harm to them by removing them one too many times. Much appreciated though, DerekT. If memtest is not showing errors I think that the problem lies elsewhere. Can you turn the system off and set the DRAM to the second set of banks. Results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorgosHand Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 If memtest is not showing errors I think that the problem lies elsewhere. Can you turn the system off and set the DRAM to the second set of banks. Results? No post. Just the long shrieking beep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 This DRAM is not in the compatibility list for that motherboard. I would try a different set of DRAM such as in the compatibility list: http://www.corsair.com/configurator/product_results.aspx?id=92100 Keep in mind that the only 6400C5 G that is in the list is the 4GB sticks. The TWIN2X2048-6400C4 is in the list as well as the TWIN2X2048-6400, but not the TWIN2X2048-6400 G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted October 16, 2007 Corsair Employees Share Posted October 16, 2007 The "G" just means its ROHS complaint and the modules would be the same as long as they are the same revision. However, with 4 modules you should be running the memory at DDR667 as long as you have a 1066 FSB CPU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 The "G" just means its ROHS complaint and the modules would be the same as long as they are the same revision. However, with 4 modules you should be running the memory at DDR667 as long as you have a 1066 FSB CPU. So 6400 is the same as 6400 G regarding the DRAM list and this applies on "G" modules across the board? He's only got two modules of 1GB RAMGUY. I posted that the only "G" version in the compatibility list were the 4G kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted October 16, 2007 Corsair Employees Share Posted October 16, 2007 Oh I see, and yes the "G" is not important unless you are in Europe and then I guess you can eat the modules if you like. But personally I would rather have a nice juicy Steak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 :rofl: I prefer a nice New York Strip. Oh, and I like steak also :bigeyes: :laughing: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsebiker Posted October 16, 2007 Author Share Posted October 16, 2007 So RamGuy and DerekT... Looks like torgos got some help on my post too We've established that my board has the Twin2x2048-6400 on it's compatability list and the -6400 G zipzoomfly.com sent me is good to go also and should make no difference. Since they won't RMA and I have to contact all vendors. Does a freeze like this point to memory usually and I have should try to tweak as derekT suggested below or should I also continue with the mobo and cpu vendors: Multiplier = 9 FSB = 333 DRAM = Unlinked and set to 800Mhz Memory Timing FSB - Memory Clock Mode: Unlinked CPU FSB: 333 CPU Multi: 9 DDR FSB: 800 tCL: 5 tRCD: 5 tRP: 5 tRAS: 15 Advanced Memory Settings tRRD: Auto tRC: Auto tWR: Auto tWTR: Auto tREF: Auto Async Latency: Auto CMD: 2T CPU Spread Spectrum: Enabled PCIE Spread Spectrum: Enabled MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum: Enabled SATA Spread Spectrum: Enabled LDT Spread Spectrum: Enabled CPU Internal Thermal Control: Enabled Limit CPUID MaxVal: Enabled Enhanced C1 (C1E): Enabled Execute Disable Bit: Enabled Virtualization Technology: Enabled Enhanced Intel Speedstep Tech: Enabled LDT Frequency: 5x -- Voltages -- Vcore = Auto Vdimm (DRAM Voltage) = 2.0v 1.2v HT: Auto NB Vcore: Auto SB Vcore: Auto CPU VTT: Auto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 I would try the settings I gave. I have never seen the Dual Channel problem be the DRAM when the DRAM is a kit. I have seen two sticks in a kit being in error with dual channel because the kit was wrong and the sticks either had errors shown by memtest or they were not identical matched pairs. When the sticks SPD settings are correct, and the modules/version numbers are identical then an issue such as this has always been mainboard. This has been my experience and I build quite a few systems. It is always a good idea to purchase hardware from a reputable company that will issue RMA without problems. It is very, very doubtful that you have a CPU issue. It's possible but highly unlikely. Looking to the mainboard would be my advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsebiker Posted October 17, 2007 Author Share Posted October 17, 2007 I mad the bios change except the FSB settings. Can see buying a board that fast and then setting it that low. made the other suggestions. I went online and played a few games and it is stable for now. Hopefully that is the fix. Thanks for all the assistance if that is indeed the end!!:biggrin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Your 6850 should have no problems at 3.6Ghz. What are you set at and what are your voltages at that setting? What is the FPO/Batch number of your CPU? Can you open Core Temp and tell me the VID? Multiplier = 9 FSB = 400 DRAM = Unlinked and set to 800Mhz Memory Timing FSB - Memory Clock Mode: Unlinked CPU FSB: 400 CPU Multi: 9 DDR FSB: 800 tCL: 5 tRCD: 5 tRP: 5 tRAS: 15 Advanced Memory Settings tRRD: Auto tRC: Auto tWR: Auto tWTR: Auto tREF: Auto Async Latency: Auto CMD: 2T CPU Spread Spectrum: Enabled PCIE Spread Spectrum: Enabled MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum: Enabled SATA Spread Spectrum: Enabled LDT Spread Spectrum: Enabled CPU Internal Thermal Control: Enabled Limit CPUID MaxVal: Enabled Enhanced C1 (C1E): Enabled Execute Disable Bit: Enabled Virtualization Technology: Enabled Enhanced Intel Speedstep Tech: Enabled LDT Frequency: 5x -- Voltages -- Vcore = 1.4v - 1.45v Vdimm (DRAM Voltage) = 2.0v 1.2v HT: 1.3v NB Vcore: 1.35v SB Vcore: 1.50v CPU VTT: 1.30v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levzi Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 This seems like a trend with Asus motherboards, you'd think Asus would consult with Corsair about their BIOS settings etc. You get the exact same hangs I do, but im not convinced its a memory error. Or does your system act like mine and once it hangs on the reboot it wont POST and wont load windows for a few boots ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsebiker Posted October 20, 2007 Author Share Posted October 20, 2007 Well I finally got some time to get on the machine and do some moving around in the system. It's still freezing on me I got my hopes up the other day. That 6400 G is still geting me but Ram Guy said it was kosher so I'll go with that. And no it's not hanging on post like your system. I get thru ok post, splash screen and OS. Now I'm in the middle of doing all of ASUS's troubleshooting. board out of box, etc. temp seems fine and all the rest. I think I'm gonna start the RMA process....Unless someone has some other suggestions. DerekT to answer your question I set everything the way you wanted voltage and everything. The one exception wass the FSB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted October 22, 2007 Corsair Employees Share Posted October 22, 2007 mcsebiker That answer really makes it hard to know, the exact settings you have set would be needed to really help you beyond this point with out trying to guess. Levzi & mcsebiker System hangs are not usually a memory issue, they can be but the O.S. and MB's are made to recover from a single bit error and would not normally display that type of a symptom. Especially if you have ran http://www.memtest.org and have not got any errors. But I would try the modules one at a time for a day or so each if it is a module then one module will display the same symptoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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