Svancara Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 greetings all, First i'd like to clear up that I'm not an OC'er, the subject stated in the title was advised to me by some other hardware people because I suffer from some issues on a brand new system. However most people advised me to come here for more professional help. When I play games my system randomly crashes, all in the same way, just a random freeze up that causes me to manually reboot my system. It was worse at the beginning, where I couldn't play a game for about 5 minutes before a crash. I ran memtest and it gave me a bit of errors, however people told me that it's not always a sign of faulty RAM, so I tried putting it in slot #3 rather than #1, just to see. The crashes were as good as gone, but I still experience them, only very randomly. I'd rather for these crashes to be gone completely ofcourse, however the source of the crashes could still be the RAM, i'm just not sure (RAM timings). I just dowloaded CoreTemp and it gave me a very surprising reading. Core#0: 63°c Core#1: 61°C Core#2: 59°C Core#3: 57°C while gaming: Core#0: 85°c Core#1: 82°C Core#2: 71°C Core#3: 72°C this is surprisingly high isn't it? and this isn't even while playing games. However I rather doubt the accurate readings of this program. In any case, someone also suggested me to adjust/raise my memory timings and voltage settings, however when I go into my BIOS settings it's all set to Auto, and i'd rather not tamper with them due to my limited knowledge of these things. So I hope you guys can help me with this problem, I thank you for any advice. Any further questions i'll gladly answer. thx in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 For idle, those are high readings. Download Prime95: http://www.mersenne.org/gimps/P95V255.ZIP Extract into a folder. Run CoreTemp. It is the best program for testing the thermal output of your Core 2 processor. Run Prime95. Choose In Place Large FFT's. Let it run for 5 minutes. What is the temperature of the cores? Download CPU-z: http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpu-z-141.zip Extract into a folder. Run CPU-z. What is the Revision of this processor? B3 or G0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svancara Posted October 7, 2007 Author Share Posted October 7, 2007 I already had CPU:Z (see RAM timings link) and my revision is B3. Someone told me btw that I should set my FSB: DRam ratio to 1:1 since that would apparantly help a great deal. However as stated before I have no knowledge about this whatsoever, I don't even know what that means :) what do you think? anyway i'm currently running Prime95, will update soon with the temp readings edit: temperature are as follows: Core#0: 90°c C0 State Core#1: 90°C C0 State Core#2: 86°C C0 State Core#3: 86°C C0 State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 I already had CPU:Z (see RAM timings link) and my revision is B3. Someone told me btw that I should set my FSB: DRam ratio to 1:1 since that would apparantly help a great deal. However as stated before I have no knowledge about this whatsoever, I don't even know what that means :) what do you think? anyway i'm currently running Prime95, will update soon with the temp readings edit: temperature are as follows: Core#0: 90°c C0 State Core#1: 90°C C0 State Core#2: 86°C C0 State Core#3: 86°C C0 State That's far too high. You need a good aftermarket cooler for those B3's. They run hot and wild. The Sunbeam Tuniq Tower or Thermalright Ultra Xtreme 120 will be best for that CPU. There's no use looking to anything else right now. Advanced cooling is necessary. You need to get down to ~65C - 70C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svancara Posted October 7, 2007 Author Share Posted October 7, 2007 I don't believe any store around here sells those... would you recommend any other equivalents from brands such as Scythe, Asus, Coolermaster, Zalman perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 The ASUS Silent Knight is said to be very good. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/asus-silent-knight.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farkus3 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Before you spend money on a cooler, one thing you might want to try is applying Arctic Silver 5 in place of whatever thermal grease you have now. My laptop regularly idled at 70c, and went up to 90-95c under load. I took it apart and found a thick glob of thermal paste spread over the heatsink and processor, I cleaned this and put some AS5 on and now it runs at 57c under full load. A 35 degree improvement, more than worthwhile for the $10 cost of AS5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 A 35C degree differential with just application of AS5. Now that's some application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svancara Posted October 12, 2007 Author Share Posted October 12, 2007 Before you spend money on a cooler, one thing you might want to try is applying Arctic Silver 5 in place of whatever thermal grease you have now. My laptop regularly idled at 70c, and went up to 90-95c under load. I took it apart and found a thick glob of thermal paste spread over the heatsink and processor, I cleaned this and put some AS5 on and now it runs at 57c under full load. A 35 degree improvement, more than worthwhile for the $10 cost of AS5. Actually I have the boxed cooler on there so the cooling paste is pre-applied, I don't think anything could've gone wrong there? could it? btw, I'm thinking about purchasing the Asus Silent Knight to deal with my overheating problem...I hope I made the right choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Actually I have the boxed cooler on there so the cooling paste is pre-applied, I don't think anything could've gone wrong there? could it? btw, I'm thinking about purchasing the Asus Silent Knight to deal with my overheating problem...I hope I made the right choice? You can usually tell by idle temps. Yours are far too high and I would say that you have not set the Heatsink correctly. The stock Intel sinks are a bit work to get on correctly. The Asus Silent Knight will be a fine cooler considering you have a hard time getting the other choices. You should have less than 40C idle with the stock Intel cooler seated correctly. Load temps are harder to extrapolate as there can be a fair bit of discrepancy between certain fabs and batches. Usually 60C - 70C is a good approximate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapidfire48 Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 I don't think just replacing the thermal paste will fix it. I would consider you do both. I removed my stock paste when I received it and replaced it with artic silver and I also use a Zalman CNPS 9500 Heat Sink for (AM2) they also have them for Core 2 and perform quite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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