intestin Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 Previously on Gigabyte Support :D: +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ :confused: Frage : Ich möchte "einfach" die oben aufgeführten Speicherriegel in den richtigen timings einstellen (4-4-4-12 2(nach EPP)) anstatt (5-5-5-18 2(nach SPD)) ich habe bereits versucht über Strg + F1 im erweiterten Menü die richtigen Einstellungen vorzunehmen, bin allerdings gescheitert, da der PC nicht mehr neu gebootet werden konnte. Es erscheint entweder das Bootscreenbild oder der Screen der Grafikkarte, weiter passiert nichts. Daraufhin habe ich die Batterie entfernt, da wirklich nichts mehr ging. Könnten sie mir einen Tipp geben, welche Werte einzustellen sind und gibt es eine Möglichkeit, wie mir das von anderen Mainboards bekannt ist über F1 oder F2 oder ähnliche Tasten das bisherige Bios aufzurufen und zu ändern, oder muss wirklich nach jedem Fehlversuch das Bios grund auf neu eingestellt werden? Dies wäre extrem nervig, da ich jedes mal die Grafikkarte ausbauen muss (2 Slot-Kühlung) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Modellname : GA-965P-DS3(rev. 3.3) -------------------------- M/B-Revision : 3.3 BIOS-Version : 10 Seriennummer : Händler : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- VGA-Hersteller : ATi Modell : x1950pro CPU-Marke : Intel Modell : 6600 CPU-Geschwindigkeit (Mhz) : 2400x2 Betriebsystem : Win XP Servicepack : 2 Speicherhersteller : Corsair Typ/Modell : Speichergrösse : 2048 Speichergeschwindigkeit : 800MHz Netzteil : 420 W +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Um diese 2 Speicherriegel handelt es sich: TWIN2X2048-6400C4 http://www.corsair.com/corsair/products/specs/TWIN2X2048-6400C4.pdf Das Netzteil ist von Bequiet (420W) der Prozessor der core 2 duo 6600 im system ist eine Sound-, eine Fernsehkarte, 3 Festplatten 2 DVD Brenner +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ :idea: vergessen sie nicht auch die Speicherspannung entsprechend einzustellen. Das vorgehen von anderen Herstellern wie sie es schildern ist mir leider nicht bekannt und auch nicht nachvollziehbar. Mit freundlichen Gruessen GIGABYTE-Team +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ :confused: Frage : Ich habe die spannung für den Ram schrittweise erhöht (Auto/+0,1/+0,2+0,3+0,4V) und auch die Spannung der NB testweise, sobald ich auch nur die cl verstelle (>4< - 5 - 5 - 18) statt 5-5-5-18, egal bei welcher Spannung startet der Recher nicht mehr. Das mit der Batterie (siehe unten) habe ich gelöst, indem ich sie einfach entfernt habe > Netzteil aus > Biosreset. Gibt es nicht evtl Referenzeinstellungen, die ich übernehmen könnte, oder ist der Speicher einfach nicht mit meinem Mainboard kompatibel? Corsair verbaut m.E. ProMosChips in der Revision 2.1 XMS6404v2.1 64MX8 90nm vielleicht sind die in der QVL ja Microns Ich würde mich freuen, wenn sie mir >>genaueres<< zu den Bioseinstellungen sagen könnten, die man benötigt, wenn man SPD deaktiviert. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ :idea: die Werte für den RAM können wir ihnen nicht mitteilen. Leider sind die genannten Module nicht von uns getestet. Mit freundlichen Gruessen GIGABYTE-Team +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ :confused: Frage : Könnten Sie mir die Werte für 1GB CORSAIR CM2X1024-6400C4 SS geben? http://www.gigabyte.de/FileList/MemorySupport/motherboard_memory_ga-965p-ds3_3.3.pdf Ich meine, dass dies mein Ram ist, nur halt 2x 512 MB, nicht 2x 1024 MB, die Einstellungen sind jedoch identisch. >> Mir wäre ja auch sonst mit jeder Einstellung für 4-4-4-12 / 800 Speicher geholfen MfG Torge Anger +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ :idea: die Werte für den RAM können wir ihnen nicht mitteilen. Bitte wenden sie sich an den RAM Hersteller. Mit freundlichen Gruessen GIGABYTE-Team +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ :confused: Dear Corsair Support team Hi I can’t run the ram at 4-4-4-12 (EPP:confused: , or I didn’t know how to set the parameters on the right way, it seems to work with the native SPD Settings @ 5-5-5-18, I think. I use Slot 1 and 3 Dual channel is OK. I have already tried to set the parameters manually, but if I only change the first value (4-5-5-18) the pc doesn’t start :mad: . RamOvervoltage (+0,1 to +0,3 = 1,9 to 2,1) didn’t help too :mad: . [Memtest > no errors:): ]. I ve asked already the gigabyte support, they meant that corsair (maybe) could help me (at the begin of this text there’s a copy in German of the result (no result :sigh!: )) Thx for your patience! :laughing: +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ :idea: :confused: The Corsair Support Team gave me that advise, that I should send the part to you for replacement. But I need that memory :eek: (have no other ddr2 ram) and I think, that it would take a couple of weeks, if I would send it to you :(: (Germany > USA). Maybe u could give me a hint, what I could do, RamGuy. It would be really nice! cya InTesTiN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted May 29, 2007 Corsair Employees Share Posted May 29, 2007 First thing, I am sorry I don't know what language that is or I would translate it so I know what they are talking about. Please translate it to English. Second thing, a 420 Watt PSU is not big enough for that Video card, you would need 24-30 Amps on the 12 Volts rail for that Video card plus other devices that also use that rail like HDD's. But to make sure you don't have a failing module I would make sure that you have the latest bios and then load setup defaults and set the Dim Voltage to 2.0 volts (+.2 Volts with Giga-Byte) and then set the timings manually to the tested settings for the specific module you have, and then test the module/modules one at a time with http://www.memtest.org! If you still get errors, please follow the link in my signature “I think I have a bad part!” and we will be happy to replace them or it! However, if you get errors with both modules that would suggest some other problem and I would test them in another system or MB to be sure. In addition, with this MB you have to disable legacy USB in the bios when running any memory test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intestin Posted May 30, 2007 Author Share Posted May 30, 2007 Thanks much for that fast response! I wouldnt need to translate that german into english, the important facts are in that last part "Dear Corsair...." My system runs @ 5-5-5-18 (SPD) stable, i have no problem with this power supply unit (bqt 420W) http://www.technic3d.com/?site=article&action=article&a=36&p=2 12V=27/30A. x1950pro dont need not so much (70 Watt) i think. my next try would be to flash that bios from F10 to F11, but i need help to do that, cause i wanna try to do that @ windows, not @ dos (cause i`ve no Floppy). My problem is how to open the downloaded Biosfile with "Face Wizard" I wait already, i hope Gigagabyte answers tomorrow.... ps.: i have no errors on 5-5-5-18 (Memtest) on 4-5-5-18 or 4-4-5-18 or.... the pc doesnt boot i have already tried to overvolt the ram to +,1V +,2V and +,3V, but no chance...:(: btw: Why your response is always in the past? >Apr 2001< :biggrin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted May 30, 2007 Corsair Employees Share Posted May 30, 2007 Minimum is 30 Amps on the 12 Volts Rail according to ATI, does your PSU provide 30 Amps on the 12 Volts Rail? According to the Label that you provided in that Link its 20 Amps for the +12 -12 it looks like; but they do not make much sense and I think that is intentional. I would suggest testing the memory in a known working system with the Voltage and timings set manually to be sure. Or ask your reseller to test them for you might be an alternative. If you have a failing module they will fail no matter what frequency and or voltage you set the to. What you have posted suggests some other problem and based on what you have posted that I understand your PSU is the most likely suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intestin Posted May 30, 2007 Author Share Posted May 30, 2007 The package of my power supply unit says: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted May 30, 2007 Corsair Employees Share Posted May 30, 2007 If you just want to get your modules replaced, please use the On Line RMA Request Form and we will be happy to replace it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intestin Posted May 30, 2007 Author Share Posted May 30, 2007 http://www.be-quiet.de/pdf/bqtp5_web.pdf If you just want to get your modules replaced, please use the On Line RMA Request Form and we will be happy to replace it. Later maybe.... ...The Corsair Support Team gave me that advise, that I should send the part to you for replacement. But I need that memory (have no other ddr2 ram) and I think, that it would take a couple of weeks, if I would send it to you (Germany > USA). Maybe u could give me a hint, what I could do, RamGuy. It would be really nice!.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted May 30, 2007 Corsair Employees Share Posted May 30, 2007 I would suggest testing with a Bigger better PSU and I would be willing to bet you a Beer my friend that would have an impact on what you have Posted. I would suggest our HX520W Minimum with that system configuration. Short of that I would ask your reseller or a friend if they can test the modules for you to be sure. But please note the Beer is much better there than here. :sunglasse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intestin Posted May 30, 2007 Author Share Posted May 30, 2007 OKOK, I just hope that you dont send me a bear, if you "loose", or better u "wont bind a bear on me", what means (in german) that i hope you dont pull my leg :D: I will ask a friend, if he could test my memory, and if I could test his. maybe there are new results. But now, its really time to :zzzz:. I wanna thank u for your patience again xD :flamethro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted May 30, 2007 Corsair Employees Share Posted May 30, 2007 No problem, but please do let me know how it turns out and we will work out the Beer Part if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intestin Posted May 31, 2007 Author Share Posted May 31, 2007 :hihi: IT WORKS!!!! :D: I ve made an mistake, I ve tried to flash the bios with the wrong program. I couldnt update the bios from F10 to F11 with "face-wizard". Someone of gigabyte gave me the hint, that I should try it with "@bios". After flashing, what should i say.... :idea: I tried it with 4-5-5-18 @ 2,1V -> no problem, than 4-4-4-12 @2,1V and the pc starts too^^ so i start memtest -> no errors. I will try it later again, when I have a bit more time, but until now it realy looks good! :confused:btw: DDR Overvoltage to 2,1 V is OK, or should I try less? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted May 31, 2007 Corsair Employees Share Posted May 31, 2007 Yes 2.1 Volts Maximum for these modules should be fine but I would see if the system is stable at 2.0 Volts if you can! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intestin Posted June 1, 2007 Author Share Posted June 1, 2007 2,0V seems to be OK, 83% of ram is about 100% short memtested and stable-> :laughing: no errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted June 1, 2007 Corsair Employees Share Posted June 1, 2007 Great news then, and I guess we will have to flip for the Beer hu? LOL :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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