pixiedust4us Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Just purchased a Nautilus (About time they came back in stock!) and saw this fluid on FrozenCPU.com. I asked the guys about the viscocity of it and they told me that the Nautilus should push it without any problems. http://www.frozencpu.com/products/5385/ex-liq-28/Fluid_XP_Extreme_Non-Conductive_32_oz_Liquid_Cooling_Fluid_-_Blood_Red.html Anyone's comments are appreciated. ~Monty Gibson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted January 22, 2007 Corsair Employees Share Posted January 22, 2007 I have asked Cool Guy to comment but, I am not sure we can officially comment about something that is not approved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpDFrek Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 I doubt Corsair will approve of the use of an untested chemical in the Nautilus500. However, it will work with the Nautilus500. FluidXP has worked with any water cooling system out there. The required use for coolant in the N500 is to combat corrosion and algae. FluidXP meets those requirements. Is does not cool as well as pure water, but then you wouldnt be using pure water anyway in the N500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixiedust4us Posted January 26, 2007 Author Share Posted January 26, 2007 Just to let everyone know. I'm using my Nautilus 500 with the Fluid XP Phantom Black and I'm getting excellent cooling results. It pushes the fluid around without ANY difficulty; plus it's non-conductive. I would recommend not using any other fluid (distilled water) with additive and switch to this fluid instead. I've heard of others using alcohol, anti-freeze, and other glycol fluids; this was back when it first cooling first started. I have NOTHING against the Corsair Fluid that came with the device; however, any type of "water," distilled or otherwise will not be in my system. :D: Take care, Monty Gibson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted January 26, 2007 Corsair Employees Share Posted January 26, 2007 NP and thank you for the follow up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josb Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Just to let everyone know. I'm using my Nautilus 500 with the Fluid XP Phantom Black and I'm getting excellent cooling results. It pushes the fluid around without ANY difficulty; plus it's non-conductive. I would recommend not using any other fluid (distilled water) with additive and switch to this fluid instead. I've heard of others using alcohol, anti-freeze, and other glycol fluids; this was back when it first cooling first started. I have NOTHING against the Corsair Fluid that came with the device; however, any type of "water," distilled or otherwise will not be in my system. :D: Take care, Monty Gibson I would like to use Fluid XP Extreme as well. How big a bottle is required to fill the Nautilus 500? Will 32oz be enough? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaptCrunch Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 (not to mention worrying about a leak and water frying your expensive hardware or getting electrocuted), hmmmm never known any 1 to die from direct current. josb you got a bar of gold to trade for XP colourd DW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FierceDeityLink Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 <tech@koolance.com> Yes our liquid does have a biological growth preventative. That is why we supply our liquid with our systems. With what I know about fluid XP, is that it causes corrosion and eventually cracks our ABS plastics. Thank you for your inquiry, Technical Support Koolance, Inc. http://www.koolance.com I had asked whether or not there was an anti-algae in their supplied fluid. Fluid XP+ didn't, so it eventually grew bacteria and other nasty stuff in my water cooling system. I had to replace the pipes which wasn't very fun. Granted, this is fine if you replace your coolant every few months like you *should* (though it should last years in a closed environment...). Additionally, there has been a build-up of plastic-like chunks in the reservoir that I fished out a while ago (it'll still float to the top if I leave my computer off for a while). I'm guessing that was from the corrosion. Kind of bad for $40 a quart IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamman Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Just to let everyone know. I'm using my Nautilus 500 with the Fluid XP Phantom Black and I'm getting excellent cooling results. It pushes the fluid around without ANY difficulty; plus it's non-conductive. I would recommend not using any other fluid (distilled water) with additive and switch to this fluid instead. I've heard of others using alcohol, anti-freeze, and other glycol fluids; this was back when it first cooling first started. I have NOTHING against the Corsair Fluid that came with the device; however, any type of "water," distilled or otherwise will not be in my system. :D: Take care, Monty Gibson Monty, Monty, Monty...........sounds like you know it all.......but, sadly, you are so mistaken on almost all counts. First, FluidXP/XP+ has been reported to have breakdown/shearing issues with their dyes and causes corrosion and gunk buildup in systems, particularly in the radiator and cpu block. Search the water cooling forums a XtremeSystems.org for this....a host of posts slamming FluidXP as one of the worst coolants ever made on earth. The only coolant I recommend is distilled water. It has the best cooling properties short of exotic fluids created by 3m (cost upwards of 1000 dollars to fill your system), has relatively low conductivity compared to regular tap water, and is cheap. There is NO need for all of those so-called non-conductive fluids as NONE of them actually are non-conductive. They have moderately higher resistance than distilled water, but will still damage sensitive electronics. Coolant additives are necessary when watercooling. If you do not do so, algae will start to grow inside of your system and cause possible failures in the pump, or clog up one of your waterblocks. The other issue involved with watercooling system is when you mix metals there is a slight electrical charge in the system that will cause a redox reaction in the system and thus start to corrode the metals. It is a specific type or redox reaction called "galvanic" (hence galvanic corrosion), and the reaction also causes the water to be acidic like that of a car battery (though to a much lesser extent, and would not be immediatly harmful). This is the most important problem with the Corsair Nautilus 500 system as it uses a copper water block for the cpu and an aluminum radiator.....and automatically starts galvanic corrosion on the introduction of fluid unless corrosion inhibitors are used. Coolant additives are designed to stop this with corrosion inhibitors. Because of these issues it is necessary that you use an additive. The one that I suggest is called Zerez/Valvoline Racing super coolant. It is excellent for its properties for anti corrosion, anti algae, surface tension reducer, and it also has a minimal effect on temperature compared to propylene glycol based antifreezes. (polypropylene glycol is the chemical that stops the water in the radiator from freezing). There are other alternatives to Zerex such as water wetter, Swiftech’s hydrx, and various other ones sold around the internet. You can choose whichever you like, as they will all serve their intended purpose, but I do suggest Zerex. While I do suggest Zerex for those who plan to run mixed metals (Aluminum + Copper), Zerex is hard to obtain and relatively expensive. With that said, for those who do NOT plan to run mixed metals, a good biocide (kills organic life) would be optimum, as no corrosion inhibitor is needed. Biocides can be purchased at your local pet store for 5-15 dollars USD. They are generally labeled as Algae killers. A considerably higher concentration than is suggested by the manufacture is recommended as there is no organic life in the WC'ing loop that needs to be preserved. Generally one capful is needed, with a small booster of a few drops once a month. Hope this helps the newbies in their watercooling adventures!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Monty, Monty, Monty...........sounds like you know it all.......but, sadly, you are so mistaken on almost all counts.This coming from someone who's plagarized a good amount of the above post from: http://www.hardwareasylum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=160 TSK, TSK, TSK. BAD MONKEY!!!! First, FluidXP/XP+ has been reported to have breakdown/shearing issues with their dyes and causes corrosion and gunk buildup in systems, particularly in the radiator and cpu block. Search the water cooling forums a XtremeSystems.org for this....a host of posts slamming FluidXP as one of the worst coolants ever made on earth. The only coolant I recommend is distilled water. It has the best cooling properties short of exotic fluids created by 3m (cost upwards of 1000 dollars to fill your system), has relatively low conductivity compared to regular tap water, and is cheap. There is NO need for all of those so-called non-conductive fluids as NONE of them actually are non-conductive. They have moderately higher resistance than distilled water, but will still damage sensitive electronics. Coolant additives are necessary when watercooling. If you do not do so, algae will start to grow inside of your system and cause possible failures in the pump, or clog up one of your waterblocks. The other issue involved with watercooling system is when you mix metals there is a slight electrical charge in the system that will cause a redox reaction in the system and thus start to corrode the metals. It is a specific type or redox reaction called "galvanic" (hence galvanic corrosion), and the reaction also causes the water to be acidic like that of a car battery (though to a much lesser extent, and would not be immediatly harmful). This is the most important problem with the Corsair Nautilus 500 system as it uses a copper water block for the cpu and an aluminum radiator.....and automatically starts galvanic corrosion on the introduction of fluid unless corrosion inhibitors are used. Coolant additives are designed to stop this with corrosion inhibitors. Because of these issues it is necessary that you use an additive. The one that I suggest is called Zerez/Valvoline Racing super coolant. It is excellent for its properties for anti corrosion, anti algae, surface tension reducer, and it also has a minimal effect on temperature compared to propylene glycol based antifreezes. (polypropylene glycol is the chemical that stops the water in the radiator from freezing). There are other alternatives to Zerex such as water wetter, Swiftech’s hydrx, and various other ones sold around the internet. You can choose whichever you like, as they will all serve their intended purpose, but I do suggest Zerex. While I do suggest Zerex for those who plan to run mixed metals (Aluminum + Copper), Zerex is hard to obtain and relatively expensive. With that said, for those who do NOT plan to run mixed metals, a good biocide (kills organic life) would be optimum, as no corrosion inhibitor is needed. Biocides can be purchased at your local pet store for 5-15 dollars USD. They are generally labeled as Algae killers. A considerably higher concentration than is suggested by the manufacture is recommended as there is no organic life in the WC'ing loop that needs to be preserved. Generally one capful is needed, with a small booster of a few drops once a month. Hope this helps the newbies in their watercooling adventures!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubZer0 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I'm buying Fluid XP tommarow i was wandering after i drain my water cooling system will i also half to mix distilled water with Fluid XP like i had to with the corsair coolent or just poor it all in after the systems cleaned out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FierceDeityLink Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Jamman speaks the truth. One day I had massive amounts of a plasticky-like substance pooling up in my reservoir (don't know where it was before, apparently the radiator or waterblocks). I don't think there's any insurance (like power strips), but FluidXP definitely gained conductivity (or didn't at all assuming it's conductive from the start), because a leak on my CPU block (because I used D-clamps instead of zip-ties) dripped onto my GPU and AGP slot. Needless to say, it shorted out. $500 (at the time) 6800 Ultra still works, but I had to replace the motherboard. Then I went back to the stock fluid and found that plastic build-up. Not very fun to have reoccuring problems after you ditch the product. Been running fine ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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