Youngguns Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Hello all, I just completed this new system build and updated the Bios to 0804. Everything seems good so far. Now I am looking for your help in tweaking the setup. I haven't run Memtest or CPU-Z as of yet. I did just read timbo3282's thread, postID#278161 and my build seems similar to that, other than I have a WIFI Mobo & different peripherals. I'm not interested in OC at this time. These are the configuration's that you suggested for timbo: Would these hold true for my build? I would also appreciate any other suggestions you may have. Thanks in advance. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Note that I had removed what was unecessary such as Command Rate from your settings in my prior post. AI Over Clock Tuner: Manual CPU External Frequency: Manually set to 266MHz DDR2 SDRAM Clock: 800MHz PCI Express Freq: 100MHz Performance Mode: Standard DRAM Timing Selectable: Manual SDRAM CAS Latency: 4T SDRAM RAS to CAS Delay (tRCD): 4T SDRAM Row Precharge (tRP): 4T SDRAM Active to Precharge Delay (tRAS): 12T SDRAM Write Recovery Time: 5 Write to Precharge Delay: 15 DDR2 SDRAM Voltage: 2.1v CPU Core Voltage: Auto FSB Termination V: 1.50 V MCH Chipset V: 1.65V ICH Chipset V: 1.20V All other settings are motherboard defaults. Maximum DDR2 recommended VDIMM: 2.1 Volts This is all you need worry about. Leave all else on Auto or Default. __________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Yes, these settings should be fine for your system. Have you tested your system first though? Download Memtest86+ from http://www.memtest.org and burn the image to CD. Boot to the CD and allow a few passes of all tests. If they come out fine, then set to those settings and retest. If it tests out fine, then you are good for the go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngguns Posted January 16, 2007 Author Share Posted January 16, 2007 I will run Memtest86+ and keep you apprised on how it all shakes out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted January 17, 2007 Corsair Employees Share Posted January 17, 2007 Please do let us know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngguns Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 Hello again, I just ran Memtest for 4 hours, 9 passes and had zero errors. So good so far. I have entered all of the settings that you suggested with the exception of the Performance mode (Standard). I can't find it. I assumed it would be under the Configure System Frequency/Voltage tab but it's not listed. When I ran Cpu-z I find it dimmed out under the Memory tab. So could you let me know what's up with the Performance mode entry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 This is normal. My board is the same with performance mode enabled or disabled. It is greyed out in CPU-z. http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e269/Ropey123/permgrey.jpg Often BIOS's are tweaked at the manufacturing level and when they find instabilities or performance abilities accross the board (no pun intended) ;) then they often hardlock the settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngguns Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 That make sense. I went ahead and had already loaded the new settings anyway. At 1st boot I had the 1 normal short Beep, but then I had 3 more which could have indicated a memory problem. :confused: It had me a bit worried but it booted the OS anyway. I then shut down restarted the system a number of times and all seems normal. No more Beep codes.:): I ran CPU-Z again and saw that the new timings were loaded. So for now I'll let memtest run all night and will post you the results tomorrow. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngguns Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 :(: Well I let Memtest run for the last 7hrs and it has come up with 11 errors in 17 passes. I did load the Video app/drivers before I began the test. ??? So far the failing tests seems to be 1 in test #6 and the rest in test #5. I can't seem to get the screen to scroll so I can't see them all. What is my next logical step? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngguns Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 Just a thought while I'm waiting for your reply. Should I have disabled Legacy USB support for the Memtest?:confused: Some users have posted that they do and some say they don't with varied results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngguns Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 Memtest is still running. It's at 25 passes now with 360 errors and 10.5 hrs. The bulk of the errors on test #6 moving inversions. The rest on #5. I would like to shut it down but I've been waiting for your advice before I try some other fixes, Also it doesn't seem like I can shut this program down without losing the results screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngguns Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 Been running for 14hr, 34 passes, 360 errors. I was leaving it up until I received a post from you with suggestions. It's been over 6 hrs now and I haven't had a response. :confused: Am I doing something wrong with my posting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Disable Legacy USB and retest. Just edit your post rather than to continually make new posts as it confuses and is considered spamming. Edit #1: Like this Edit #2: Like this As well, you are far too impatient. We all have work and lives. Please leave a post 24hours for a response. It's doubtful that the post will be around unanswered that long but please leave it for that long without a new unedited post. Thanks :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngguns Posted January 18, 2007 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 As you can probably tell this is my first time posting to a forum of any kind. I certainly didn't mean to offend anyone with my apparent rudeness. I just don't know the in's and out's of forum protocol. This is exactly why I sent the below thread asking for some guidence. POST ID # = 278581 Forum Rules And Usage Tips ?? DereckT, I do appreciate your timely response and the link to You can find the rules here. The only problem is that it doesn't explain how to do even the basic things. I still don't know how to Edit a post as you suggested below. Or how to Bump one up. Plus many more things. You said: Edit #1: Like this Edit #2: Like this Where can I find the answers to Basic Forum Use? I can now see that I appeared impatient. But really I was quite frustrated. I just ASSumed that this is a Corsair forum and you all are getting your paychecks from them and were just ignoring my thread/posts today. All of this after I had just bought my 10th stick of Corsair high-end memory from you. Please accept my apologizes for all of the above. I will Disable Legacy USB and retest as you suggested. Thank's for your Candidness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 No problem. We all have to learn sometime. You will notice that there is an "Edit" button at the bottom of the posting on posts that you have created yourself. If you choose "Edit" you will be given the post to edit. Then you can just send as you did when creating the post with the difference being your now edited post showing. Since your system was running memtest fine and now it isn't gives thought to you possibly manipulating settings that have proven instable. Look to your BIOS. Find "Load Default Settings". Choose that setting. Save settings and restart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngguns Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 Well I disabled Legacy USB Support as you suggested and ran Memtest Disable Legacy USB and retest. I have linked the screen shot below. It seems a little strange that both times that I've gotten the errors was after about 5hrs of MEM testing. Prior to that none. NOTE: When reviewing my original Memtest on the stock settings I now realize that the test only ran for about 4 hrs without any errors and with the next 2 MEMtests under the enhanced settings, the errors came after 4 hrs. Maybe I didn't run the 1st stock test long enough? The system actually seem stable I been working with it today without any abnormalities. Oh Well, we know that something isn't quite right. So I assume my next move is to load the Defaults and RE Memtest again. Right. Look to your BIOS. Find "Load Default Settings". Choose that setting. Save settings and restart. NOTE: I do happen to have another pair of the Dominator Memory for another current build. I guess if it comes down to it I could swap them out for testing. Looking forward to your input UPDATE I put the system back to stock, disabled Legacy USB support and started MEMTEST again. At 57 min. into the test I had 5 errors on the 2nd pass. One on Tst 4 and Four on Tst 5. Now Im wondering if the 6400 C4D are faulty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 I would set your RAM to 2.1v. Then test each stick singly. Do you find errors. Oftne when errors come that late into testing it means that the thermals of the system are not good and the DRAM is not radiating the heat well. How well cooled is your system? Remove the side of the system when you retest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngguns Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 In my last post I said: UPDATE I put the system back to stock, disabled Legacy USB support and started MEMTEST again. At 57 min. into the test I had 5 errors on the 2nd pass. One on Tst 4 and Four on Tst 5. Now Im wondering if the 6400 C4D are faulty. I also said: NOTE: I do happen to have another pair of the Dominator Memory for another current build. I guess if it comes down to it I could swap them out for testing. I then swapped the identical Dominators from my other build and I am running Memtest at this time. It is at 5 hrs, 11passes and not a single error. Everything is still at stock as I mentioned above. Except the Disabled Legacy. I'm thinking that 1 or more of my original modules were bad. What do you think about an RMA? Since Memtest is still running I haven't reset the timing and tested each stick individually as you suggested. In light of the results of the memory swap do you see a reason to do so? As for my system thermal's. I run real cool. Antec P180 with 5 tri-cool fans and all testing has been done with the door removed. Running in the low 30's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 I would certainly test these sticks singly. If you are looking at an RMA then speak with RamGuy in the warranty questions section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngguns Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 Okay, I'll be happy to test them singly. Would I test them each singly in the A1 slot or test them each in the A1 & B1 slots. I assume this is to be done under the stock settings with Legacy disabled. Right? Also how long of a Memtest would be considered valid? NOTE: They swapped modules have now gone 6 1/2 hrs and 15 passes without an error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted January 19, 2007 Corsair Employees Share Posted January 19, 2007 Please call our Tech support at 800-205-7657 and we will be happy to try and help you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngguns Posted January 20, 2007 Author Share Posted January 20, 2007 You said: I would set your RAM to 2.1v. Then test each stick singly. I asked: Would I test them each singly in the A1 slot or test them each in the A1 & B1 slots. I assume this is to be done under the stock settings with Legacy disabled. Right? Also how long of a Memtest would be considered valid? I'm not specifically clear on the singly testing procedure as mentioned above. Could you school me? Is this to be done under stock setting or enhanced? Do I test them each in the A1 slot and then each in the B1 slot? How long of a test would you considered as valid? I'll await your answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 I personally test one pass for validity and eight more for thermal radiation. Test at the specified settings of the DRAM. Test them singly in the A1 slot. If both error in that slot, test them singly in the B1 slot. Results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngguns Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 Well this is a little strange. I took your advice and tested the sticks singly, set at default, Ram at 2.1V and Legacy disabled. I ran the origional stick in A1 for 20 passes and it had 1 error on the 13th pass. I then reset the Defaults a couple more time and tested stick two. Again with 2.1 v and Legacy Disabled. It passed 9 hrs with no errors. I then ran both sticks in B1 slot, 4 hrs each. Both passed, no errors. I ran Stick 1 again in A1 slot 10hrs, 30 passes, no errors. The above was all tested under default setting. I then changed to all of the enhanced settings and ran both singly in A1 slot. Nine passes each with no errors so I threw in both for dual run and they surpassed 12 passes with no errors. MY CURRENT DOCUMENTED SETTINGS AI Tuning: Manual CPU Frequency: 266 DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800MHZ PCI Express Frequency: 100 PCI Clock Sync Mode: Auto Spread Spectrum: Auto Memory Voltage: 2.10V CPU VCore Voltage: Auto FSB Termination Voltage: 1.450V NB VCore: 1.65V SB VCore: Auto ICH Chipset Voltage: Auto Memory Remap: Disabled Config. Dram Timing by SPD: Disabled Dram Cas# Latency: 4 Dram Ras# to Cas# Delay: 4 Dram Ras# Precharge: 4 Dram Ras# Activate to Precharge: 12 Dram Write Recovery Time: 5 Dram TRFC: 42 Dram TRRD: 10 Rank Write to Read Delay: 10 Read to Precharge Delay: 10 Write to Precharge Delay: 15 Static Read Control: Auto USB Legacy Support: Disabled So where do you think this leaves me? Am I now good to go or am I missing something here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 You look good for the go. Keep in mind that Corsair warrants the DRAM for the lifetime of use so you are at all times covered under this warranty. It looks as though you are stabilized and ready to work that system. :D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngguns Posted February 2, 2007 Author Share Posted February 2, 2007 I've been working this build for the last week and it hasn't faultered yet. I just wanted to ask you about the v-core voltage set to Auto. When I ran Asus Probe I noticed it was showing a low Voltage warning 1.14v. This is on idle. I just reset the threshold range to stop the warnings. The Bios hardware monitor shows the Vcore @ 1.288v. This is the highest volts I've observed even when stressed under Orthos. Do you think I should be running at a higher voltage? The system thermals are staying cool (in the low to mid 30's). What do you think? Again, I appreciate all of your help. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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