blitzkrieg1110 Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Hi, I'm planning on buying a new motherboard, cpu, and video card (DFI Lanparty Ultra-D, Opteron 165, 8800gts). I have heard rumors that the DFI Lanparty Ultra-D doesn't like value ram. If I buy one, will I be able to use my 2x1gb Corsair ValueSelect PC3200 ram with it? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk87 Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 I had the ASUS version of that board(A8N-E) with the Nvidia Nforce 4 Ultra chipset and it did not like the Value Select memory that much. It does like XMS memory modules better. I can say though that the Nforce 4 SLI chipsets like the Value Select and run it very well. I am currently running an ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe and would recommend either this board or the DFI version of this board. DFI was my first choice but to keep from reinstalling windows I purchaced the ASUS board and I am very pleased. Also the SLI version of that board will overclock much better according to my friends. Hope that helps with your decision. P.S. As a side note in todays ever changing market the SLI board would be a better choice if you wanted the option to upgrade to an SLI system later on. Thats one reason why I upgraded my motherboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzkrieg1110 Posted January 14, 2007 Author Share Posted January 14, 2007 I thought about getting an a8n32 or an an8 32x SLi board but I really don't want to spend that much on a board when I'm not going to be upgrading to SLi. I want a really great overclocking board for a cheap price (lanparty ultra-d or nf4-d). So does anyone know if my ValueSelect will be compatible with the Lanparty boards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 I have worked with more than a few Ultra-d's and had one personally with a variety of processors. This board seemed to have more issues with Samsung TCCD than pretty much anything else. I ran Corsair Value Select PC3200 and had no issues other than overclock with dividers. The board did not like dividing down too much. I had no problem with 333Mhz but 266 and 300FSB was not stable, yet with Corsair PC4000 DDR500 I had no problems at any divisors. I might re-think the Opteron and go for a higher multiplier X2 that will allow for the 333 divisor if you choose the Value DRAM if I was you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzkrieg1110 Posted January 14, 2007 Author Share Posted January 14, 2007 Thanks for the reply! I might consider going to a lower x2 with a higher divider like you said. I really really don't want to buy new ram as I'm perfectly happy with this ValueSelect that I have now. Which x2's have the 1mb of cache per core? I know that all of the Opterons do and that's why I like them so much (not to mention the fact that they overclock so well). What ranges are people getting with a cheaper x2 3800+ 939 and at what voltage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJLeong65 Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Which x2's have the 1mb of cache per core? For Socket 939, other than the Opterons and the FX series, the only x2's with 1MB of L2 cache per core would be the 4400+ and the 4800+. The other x2's - 3800+, 4200+ and 4600+ - have only 512K of L2 cache per core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Thanks for the reply! I might consider going to a lower x2 with a higher divider like you said. I really really don't want to buy new ram as I'm perfectly happy with this ValueSelect that I have now. Which x2's have the 1mb of cache per core? I know that all of the Opterons do and that's why I like them so much (not to mention the fact that they overclock so well). What ranges are people getting with a cheaper x2 3800+ 939 and at what voltage? I was meaning that you might wish to look at a higher multiplier so that your divisor on overclock would not be so great. An X2 4800+ has a multiplier of 12 and thus you could set your FSB (HTT) at 240MHz, your HT Multiplier at 4X and your dram at 333Mhz. This would give you ~2.88GHz and is quite possible on your system. At 230 X 12 = 2.76GHz and I would be surprised if you could not make this speed. Your Value Dram would run very close to spec in this way (200Mhz) and not be problematic with high divisors. The 512KB vs 1MB cache is not a very marked improvement since the A64's onboard memory controller's latencies are so good. I have had Opteron 146/148 and A64 3000+, 3200+, 3500+ and 3700+ (SanDiego) single core, Opteron 165/170, A64 X2 3800+, 4400+ and 4800+ dual core. The 3800+ X2 had no issues at 2.6Ghz. the 4400+ X2 was a very good one, giving me 2.8Ghz and the 4800 gave over 2.7Ghz. The difference in X2/Opteron at 2.6 and 2.8 is not very marked either. In benchmarks, yes but in real world gaming and applications and a digital stopwatch (load times/run times) there is not a very great difference. I found that after 2.6Ghz the difference became less and less. The difference between 2.5GHz and 2.6GHz was far more marked than 2.6 and 2.7Ghz, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzkrieg1110 Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 Thanks for everyones replies guys. I'll be making my decision soon :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzkrieg1110 Posted January 26, 2007 Author Share Posted January 26, 2007 Well I purchased a Lanparty SLI-DR Expert on the forums I visit. Hopefully the ram will work fine with it. (I'll update when I receive the board and have a cpu to test it with). Still unsure whether I will go with an opteron 165 or 170. The price difference is pretty high.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzkrieg1110 Posted February 3, 2007 Author Share Posted February 3, 2007 Bought an opteron 170 (being shipped to me right now). Will update again when I receive it on whether I have any problems with the motherboard and my memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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